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Hardware The New MacBook/MacBook Pro/Air Users Thread v6, Share your joy and hopefully no pain :)

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post Oct 18 2010, 05:21 AM

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QUOTE(gurus @ Oct 17 2010, 04:06 PM)
dont' u guys think its a pain if the screen size were 11"?
so small la, seems more like an apple netbook to me sweat.gif
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it's actually down to what's the resolution
too high resolution is unreadable like those 15"/16" with full HD
words are tiny! horrible for reading
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I'd rather have higher resolution than lower ones with regards to a set screen size. The Retina Display alone have proven that even small text on smaller screen, when paired with high resolution , making the text readable.

The old adage of "high resolution on small screen = tiny words horrible for reading" only applies to standard TFT/LCD panels, not Retina Displays.

Whether Apple would deem it worthy of putting a Retina Display into a Macbook is another matter altogether.
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post Oct 18 2010, 10:02 AM

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i woud really love to see a retina display on the macbook series smile.gif

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post Oct 18 2010, 10:57 AM

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finally.... new macbook air... pls pls pls let me have one
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post Oct 18 2010, 07:18 PM

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by considering the buying guide and rumors i think mbp is going to refresh.... hopefully it is major update + iLife 11, cause i going to get that once it release~

any advice?
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post Oct 18 2010, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Oct 18 2010, 07:18 PM)
by considering the buying guide and rumors i think mbp is going to refresh.... hopefully it is major update + iLife 11, cause i going to get that once it release~

any advice?
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hmm i dont think they'll upgrade so fast as the last time around it took them 10-11 months to upgrade, i would still consider the current notebooks are at their middle cycle or 3/4 cycle mark still, plus there is no rumour that indicates a shortage of portable macs, and with the event so near this is not happening.
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post Oct 18 2010, 08:12 PM

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hopefully tml news can heard about it~
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post Oct 18 2010, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Oct 18 2010, 12:22 AM)
why? sad.gif i never owned any AMD-powered computers but reviews seem pretty good
well i guess cannot do anything lah :S at least it's at the back right...no need to stare at it all day long.. hehe
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geram la..see my mbp got flaws then no mood liao..heart pain le
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post Oct 19 2010, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(nabielz @ Oct 18 2010, 04:03 AM)
y?
AMD good for gaming.
the price also cheap than intel.
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...my current AMD machine almost burn my palm.....what worst with the unibody construction, the heat will expand to all parts of the laptop if heat ventilation is not properly design...but i put my trust on apple though rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(merajey @ Oct 19 2010, 12:21 AM)
...my current AMD machine almost burn my palm.....what worst with the unibody construction, the heat will expand to all parts of the laptop if heat ventilation is not properly design...but i put my trust on apple though  rclxms.gif
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kinda.
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post Oct 19 2010, 07:23 PM

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Hey guys, MBW user here. I just installed win 7 on my pc and also installed all the necssary drivers. However there is no wireless on my win 7. I have installed all the drivers from the CD. Any solutions???
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Oct 19 2010, 07:23 PM)
Hey guys, MBW user here. I just installed win 7 on my pc and also installed all the necssary drivers. However there is no wireless on my win 7. I have installed all the drivers from the CD. Any solutions???
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what version bootcamp u installed?

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post Oct 19 2010, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Oct 19 2010, 07:23 PM)
Hey guys, MBW user here. I just installed win 7 on my pc and also installed all the necssary drivers. However there is no wireless on my win 7. I have installed all the drivers from the CD. Any solutions???
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Please elaborate on "no wireless on my win 7".
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QUOTE(Ojimaru @ Oct 20 2010, 01:31 AM)
Please elaborate on "no wireless on my win 7".
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Oh, the PC doesnt detect wireless connections, all I had to do was update the Bootcamp and its all nice and fine now. Cheers
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post Oct 21 2010, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Oct 18 2010, 05:45 AM)
I'd rather have higher resolution than lower ones with regards to a set screen size. The Retina Display alone have proven that even small text on smaller screen, when paired with high resolution , making the text readable.

The old adage of "high resolution on small screen = tiny words horrible for reading" only applies to standard TFT/LCD panels, not Retina Displays.

Whether Apple would deem it worthy of putting a Retina Display into a Macbook is another matter altogether.
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you're so wrong
it's the software part who make it good to read

unlikely windows, mac can't set the display font size (default)

go to read on SONY VAIO P
you'll cry


Added on October 21, 2010, 12:53 am
QUOTE(gurus @ Oct 18 2010, 10:02 AM)
i woud really love to see a retina display on the macbook series smile.gif
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for the time being, not worth doing it
cuz you wont read your mac as near as what you do on iphone
Mac OS X is not optimize for it (yet)

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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Oct 21 2010, 12:52 AM)
you're so wrong
it's the software part who make it good to read

unlikely windows, mac can't set the display font size (default)

go to read on SONY VAIO P
you'll cry



Added on October 21, 2010, 12:53 am

for the time being, not worth doing it
cuz you wont read your mac as near as what you do on iphone
Mac OS X is not optimize for it (yet)
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What are you talking about? There are tools to do that.

Have you ever read on a Retina Display before? Legibility versus pixel density increases as the ratio goes, there is a reason why Apple opts for Retina Display on a smaller screen device like the iPhone, so that "fonts reads like a fine printed book" as Steve says it. Otherwise, your analogy of using the Sony Vaio P as an example ensues. I had the Vaio P at one point in my life, and because the resolution increases but the pixel density remains the same over a smaller screen size, the legibility suffers. Apple addresses that with the increase in pixel density on the Retina Display and the result speaks for itself.

Better example next time. I gave mine, and I have the Retina Display to prove it. The only question is whether Apple wants to incorporate it into the Macbook lineup or not.


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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Oct 21 2010, 03:50 AM)
What are you talking about? There are tools to do that.

Have you ever read on a Retina Display before? Legibility versus pixel density increases as the ratio goes, there is a reason why Apple opts for Retina Display on a smaller screen device like the iPhone, so that "fonts reads like a fine printed book" as Steve says it. Otherwise, your analogy of using the Sony Vaio P as an example ensues. I had the Vaio P at one point in my life, and because the resolution increases but the pixel density remains the same over a smaller screen size, the legibility suffers. Apple addresses that with the increase in pixel density on the Retina Display and the result speaks for itself.

Better example next time. I gave mine, and I have the Retina Display to prove it. The only question is whether Apple wants to incorporate it into the Macbook lineup or not.
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Retina Displays will likely come to iPads before Macbooks and larger screens. Assuming Jobs maintains his obsession with the proprietary, these screens won't see mass market for some time, meaning cost of production won't go down quickly enough to allow the production of 13" and larger screens.

Then the more interesting questions is whether other manufacturers will try to clone the Retina Display for other electronic items.
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I agree, I'm just addressing his issue of claiming legibility being attended to software-wise instead of hardware. If that is the case, then there wouldn't be any need to have Retina Displays in the world since some "software" can automagically makes reading on smaller screen devices possible.

Plus the target audience would balk at the pricepoint. Apple's pushing the affordability button these days, so Retina Display enabled Macbooks are not gonna happen, it's gonna get too pricy for the spendthrift mentality going on now.
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post Oct 21 2010, 07:06 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Oct 21 2010, 03:50 AM)
What are you talking about? There are tools to do that.

Have you ever read on a Retina Display before? Legibility versus pixel density increases as the ratio goes, there is a reason why Apple opts for Retina Display on a smaller screen device like the iPhone, so that "fonts reads like a fine printed book" as Steve says it. Otherwise, your analogy of using the Sony Vaio P as an example ensues. I had the Vaio P at one point in my life, and because the resolution increases but the pixel density remains the same over a smaller screen size, the legibility suffers. Apple addresses that with the increase in pixel density on the Retina Display and the result speaks for itself.

Better example next time. I gave mine, and I have the Retina Display to prove it. The only question is whether Apple wants to incorporate it into the Macbook lineup or not.
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i bet i read on retina display before you did, or maybe couple hours after you
i understand what you mean by density stuff
by your mean, having retina display which should be in higher resolution, is good. But it doesn't work well with software cuz (i bet) current Mac OS X doesnt use up that.
my point is, even hardware works great, you still need software than can support it
Maybe in 10.7, it may happen. Apple started to centralize their developers

2ndly, for computer, does it needed?
iphone 3G with 163 PPI looks awful, but any 24" full HD (be it 16:9/16:10) with 94 PPI is al-right.
you wont use mac as near as your iphone.

try this, SONY VAIO F with 16" 1920X1080 with 137 PPI & macbook pro 15" 1440 X900 with 110PPI
which one is better for reading, in same reading distance

you own more Gadgets than most of us here, you tell me your experience.

btw, you way of changing font size in mac is very analogy way, literally have to tweak thru alot of times.

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Oct 21 2010, 05:43 AM)
I agree, I'm just addressing his issue of claiming legibility being attended to software-wise instead of hardware. If that is the case, then there wouldn't be any need to have Retina Displays in the world since some "software" can automagically makes reading on smaller screen devices possible.

Plus the target audience would balk at the pricepoint. Apple's pushing the affordability button these days, so Retina Display enabled Macbooks are not gonna happen, it's gonna get too pricy for the spendthrift mentality going on now.
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To be absolutely fair, we all know certain nutcases would still take on a second home mortgage just to get a 27" Retina Display. XD

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