imho muta can win thor, wit numbers + focus fire....

This post has been edited by HellZoker: Sep 2 2010, 03:59 PM

magic box the mutas and /lol @ thors

not as magical as one may think. and 2400 minxgas vs 900min 600 gas thors as shown on the video. yeah lol.

1 thor maybe, but 3 or more, thats impossible with ANY amount, cause they do area damage and they can shoot from very far, that means few thors once they shoot, and those mutas are pack together, they are all dead no matter what is the amount.

idra solo-ed 4 thors with only mutas...
again, magic box ur mutas so they dun get clamped up...

@ quaz
well they are mobile, provide good harassments and pwns the reapers/ hellions that are usually good vs zerg...

i once fight 3~4 thors with 6~7 muta and ard 10 lings
i left 1 red muta....

currently the topic at hand is thors vs mutas straight up. nothing to do with harassment, mobility, reapers and hellions. mutas are terribad against thors /argument

by what do you mean magic box ?

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Added on September 2, 2010, 4:17 pmi think tonite ill start an easy custom game against a terran, defeat the terran, but dont end the game, then take over a scv, start making terran bases and try all the light/armored test.

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Added on September 2, 2010, 4:19 pmgimme the link of that video plz

This post has been edited by narf03: Sep 2 2010, 04:19 PM

doesnt make sense...
so u tell me u gonna park ur muta in ur base only?
mutas are one of the best harassment unit out there due to its and after a critical mass deals with any unit relatively well even thors...
thors on the other hand are really immobile so u gotta use it to ur advantage...

@ narf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68H8FeZHkWg

move ur muta over the thor, so they dont clump up

=edit=
visit first page of this thread for videos

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Added on September 2, 2010, 4:25 pmhow does "thors rape mutalisks" not make sense to you? people were talking about how thors rape mutalisks, not how mutalisks can run around harass workers and rape hellions/reapers.

if you want actual battle despairs, what you wanna do when your zerg base has a couple of thors + tanks + MM (or mainly just marine, since the T would know ur massing mutas) right in front of your base, and he got a few new thors in his base that isnt rallied to his main army in case you wanna base trade with ur muta.

the whole "bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do when we come for you" song was just so appropriate.

HENCE, terran nerfs.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 2 2010, 04:25 PM

reality: thors are not the unit getting nerfed based on the patch 1.1 previews...

korean terrans usually used marines (stim-ed) vs mutas instead and my personal experience of such builds agrees with the korean builds over supposed thor as counters...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Sep 2 2010, 04:31 PM

reality: you are not forced to build ONLY mutas as a zerg.

the nerfs would actually allow other units like zerglings to get close despite siege tank behind the thor covering and actually taking out the thor, and/or the tank, which gives ways to other units (like mutas) to take out the other units.

with the changes to tanks down to 35 damage to non armored, i think ur lings/ hydras gonna be sooooo happy...
nt to mention lings > thors

it still 1 shot lings, but it wont 1 shot a PILE of lings (or hydras for that matter) since the splash dmg would be further reduced

not just lings > thors, depending on number count, hydras do have a pretty good chance on thors due to their high dps. they just get 1-2 shotted by thors which makes low count hydras (just like low count mutas) unfavorable against a thor in general.

yup probably gonna see more hydras in ZvT at last...

Note that when ever the thors are attacking your muta, you ground units should be doing massive damage to him because thors do take sometime killing mutas if they are not bunched up.

reaper nerfs would also allow hydras to survive. as it stands, any terran massing or having a sizeble reaper force roaming around would utterly destroy hydras. sure, you'd lose a couple reaper, but when ur trading 100min50 gas + larvae to 50min 50 gas + easy rauder/rine switch, you know shit is wrong.

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Added on September 2, 2010, 4:45 pmand thats what shitty siege tanks would be doing to you: terrible terrible damage. wwwwww

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 2 2010, 04:45 PM

thus the reaper nerf...
as i said before, my nexus got sniped by mass reapers in a 2s game that is not even funny...

btw: sen just joined fnatic so hopefully can see more from the zerg master (i rate him on par with cool and idra)

as morrow says, dimaga is harder to play against compared to idra.

so im all in favor to dimaga over idra if you count non korean zerg players. but hey, idra rage = hands down the best

cause dimaga taught him the reaper play '
and there is a big history between morrow and idra since BW days