ou ....Ah on the ramp : ) ...You mean, pylon range can reach on top of the ramp rite? , den can warp in unit behind the wall ?

while outer unit hit the wall, will try about it : ) ....

Scary part --> if opp go for fast banshee, say bb lol

Yea. That's why it is really 50/50.
Flip of a coin.

yup warp directly into his base (like wut kiwikakii love to do back then)...
4 gate pushes are faster than banshee usually (unless u are damn far away/ cross map)...
if u went wit the warp prism (ala whitera) u can jz chrono out a obs as well...

hmmm ....normally I only do warp prism harass, never thought of hitting his front door haha .....will try it ....

I always hit both sides.
The back first to make his army go there, then blast his front.
If he has an expansion, he'll usually lose that expansion or a lot of their scvs will die.

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Added on November 3, 2010, 4:13 pmHmm. Think each time I do that 4 gate push and they went fast banshee I will hit his front while his banshee just reached my mineral.
Usually game over for him when that happens.


This post has been edited by tatyinw: Nov 3 2010, 04:13 PM

so far from my experience i managed to beat the banshee...
i had a halucination build which i used that allow me to hit their ramp pretty quick and fast (halucinated VR for scouting and drawing some fire lol)...
even when his banshee is out, u got time b4 his cloak finishes so snipe that banshee ASAP, micro ur stalker towards the techlab/ starport...
once that is down u are pretty much homerun...

If opp do helion drop? while your attacking? ....

should be easier to chrono (or even without) warp in stalkers in ur own base to D no?

^
this
i rather to just lose probes and my opponent having no base after this drop...

=,=" ...i tend to send my unit bak lol ....Coz their base sure got bunker 1 .

Scary lah lol ....and the best part, always I just warp in unit, and send away , they only harass it zzz

chrono helps. unless you tend to also chrono everything when ur leaving, then too bad

im freaking macro oriented ......my chrono always tak da 1 haha...chrono my obs/immortal out 1

Terran who does timing pushes are much more deadly compared to those who bunker up..

^
this

terran that harass are nt that scary when they can kill u straight...
i think 1 gate into robo for immortals should be the standard now (just like wut huk does nowadays)...

i wouldn't quite say standard, but with the masses of roaches and marauders or toss' own stalkers, it sure helps to have a couple of immortals running around able to tank and deal hurt to those armored units

well immortals with ur gate army still do decent damage to marines etc...
dun forget it deal 20 damage to normal and can take quite a beating...
and the robo prevent u from dying to random banshee/ thor rushes...

i notice NA toss tend to go immortal heavy builds nowadays as well...

Hmm. At my level, I keep meeting 4 gate push toss. It was really easy to counter as toss though.

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Added on November 3, 2010, 5:26 pmOoh. I have never gotten hallucination. Time to try that out.

This post has been edited by tatyinw: Nov 3 2010, 05:26 PM

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=165609

NoNy 4-1 IdrA...
go watch this and hopefully u get some better PvZ ideas (streaming em now)...

Interesting, I have never think abt this..i should try this too!

PvZ evolves alot in term of gameplay : ) ...i see so much different build

not really dare to go for immortal heavy build agaisnt T ..I mostly used it agaisnt Protoss.

2gate 2 robo build