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 Protoss Discussion Thread Ver. 1, [SEASON 2] Tips & Strategies.

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post Sep 6 2010, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 6 2010, 04:37 PM)
when u are pushing out, grab an expansion?
after all early on u are having map control with ur 1-2 colossi...
the HT is my transition after that when i have my 2nd expansion up (and 4 more gates getting dropped)...

and when u are having more zealots in ur compo, it frees gas up...
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if i already have total control id just win the game and not risk myself lol. and i got zealots too, but still not enough gas lolololo

could be the stalkers, but they are <3 on pew pews
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post Sep 6 2010, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 6 2010, 04:43 PM)
if i already have total control id just win the game and not risk myself lol. and i got zealots too, but still not enough gas lolololo

could be the stalkers, but they are <3 on pew pews
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i cut on stalkers...
well if the terran is such a good defender (up to the point its suicide to push in wit ur army), its always better to expand and get more gates...
that way u can reinforce super duper fast...

dun be like the zerg in the epic 2-3 hours TvZ where he had control but tried to end it with the game ended in a draw...
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post Sep 6 2010, 04:56 PM

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I think it's time to kick this thread to overdrive! It's time for us to post map strats on the 1st page~

You guys have any specific strats for lost temple? The so-call Terran's map?
Terran players will most likely do drop-in to harrass. How does a less mobile race like protoss counter that? Lets say Cannon is not an economical solution, they just go down really fast.

Even if you secure lots of expos and try to keep up with map control. Those annoying drop in juz makes u hold back.

I think in general, dragging the game really long especially on lost temple against terran is juz not to your advantage.

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post Sep 6 2010, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(JuzJoe @ Sep 6 2010, 04:56 PM)
I think it's time to kick this thread to overdrive! It's time for us to post map strats on the 1st page~

You guys have any specific strats for lost temple? The so-call Terran's map?
Terran players will most likely do drop-in to harrass. How does a less mobile race like protoss counter that? Lets say Cannon is not an economical solution, they just go down really fast.

Even if you secure lots of expos and try to keep up with map control. Those annoying drop in juz makes u hold back.

I think in general, dragging the game really long especially on lost temple against terran is juz not to your advantage.
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post Sep 6 2010, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 6 2010, 04:45 PM)
i cut on stalkers...
well if the terran is such a good defender (up to the point its suicide to push in wit ur army), its always better to expand and get more gates...
that way u can reinforce super duper fast...

dun be like the zerg in the epic 2-3 hours TvZ where he had control but tried to end it with the game ended in a draw...
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thats prolly why

and /face when i forgotten my ftp password oTL
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post Sep 6 2010, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 6 2010, 05:08 PM)
thats prolly why

and /face when i forgotten my ftp password oTL
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post Sep 6 2010, 05:36 PM

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rofl finally gotten in. god damn case sensitive unix servers LOL (and by that i meant my USERNAME)

from my own replays and some comments:

Qualifying replays:
with lack of exp. in 1v1, and nervousness etc when ALL my opponents are diamonds, you can see me failing HARD and making really really noobish mistakes on the qualifying. the ONLY victories i attained was due to me copying the strategies people used ON ME. 2 wins 4 loss /QQ lol

Quazacolt vs ZenDeX.SC2Replay

Quazacolt vs thOneFive.SC2Replay

Quazacolt vs pigsvscanfly.SC2Replay
i got zealot warped by Norada i believe? copied and used the same shit on this guy. so yeah :/

Quazacolt vs Norada.SC2Replay

Quazacolt vs Azz.SC2Replay

Quazacolt vs Arwa.SC2Replay
THIS is the colossi abuse, which i copied and adapted from after getting owned by the same colossi. on a previous match

Group replays:
While i sorta overcame the tournament nervousness, the match up are still, very highly, how should i say, unbalanced. a 3 extreme and apparent settings of High (Renson) Medium (DJSub) Low (Firestorm)

Quazacolt vs DJsub.SC2Replay
BEST DAMN GAME EVER for me during the vista lasik tourney. He reaper + bunker cheesed me, but i held off, and fought back. victory has never been so sweet, and it got sweeter after a chat with him. And to folks wanting to see me colossi sniping, this is also the game.
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Quazacolt vs DJsub game2.SC2Replay
probably lost the mental momentum during the first match, kinda poor play, and that was it. this is also where you get to see colossi vs banshees

Quazacolt vs Firestorm.SC2Replay
Bronze league >_< i thought he was playing mind games after seeing his profile and even asking if this is is REAL profile

Quazacolt vs Firestorm game 2.SC2Replay
game one proven it that he is in fact a bronze, proxy and warp and end the game quick. i really felt sorry for him to face Renson sad.gif

Quazacolt vs Renson.SC2Replay
attempted to fight him head on despite knowing a proxy to my base, got a little nervous, supply blocked for a few seconds, that was the end of it. schooled as if i was a bronzer

Quazacolt vs Renson game 2.SC2Replay
i know dead well i am not gonna win in a straight up fight, attempted to cheese, however i got way ahead of myself, 2 gassed way too early, and lacked a proper army to defend his early aggression, and i paid for it dearly. game was over before it even begun.

=edits=
ok should be done, will mirror this on the vista lasik thread it self later with a screenshot lol. updated it with better formatting to go easy on the eyes, lol red text links

unker incx please put it up first page, thanks ^^

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post Sep 6 2010, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 6 2010, 05:08 PM)
thats prolly why

and /face when i forgotten my ftp password oTL
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vista lasik replays are already out lol...
wtching GSL live now so nt downloading it =p
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post Sep 6 2010, 05:42 PM

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Haha I wanna watch his games to learn.
Thanks a lot Quazacolt! notworthy.gif
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post Sep 6 2010, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Sep 6 2010, 05:42 PM)
Haha I wanna watch his games to learn.
Thanks a lot Quazacolt! notworthy.gif
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GSL is live now...
lotze.prime won 2-1...
his opponent did the korean 4 gate rush a little too slow...
pylons got destroyed b4 the units all hit =(


Added on September 6, 2010, 5:50 pmnext games is ogs.spunky (team leader of ogs and one of the best toss) vs august.werra (T) LOL

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Sep 6 2010, 05:50 PM
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post Sep 6 2010, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 6 2010, 05:49 PM)
GSL is live now...
lotze.prime won 2-1...
his opponent did the korean 4 gate rush a little too slow...
pylons got destroyed b4 the units all hit =(


Added on September 6, 2010, 5:50 pmnext games is ogs.spunky (team leader of ogs and one of the best toss) vs august.werra (T) LOL
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Ooh...
Damn. I'm at work... cannot watch...
Stop tempting me evofantasy.... cry.gif
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post Sep 6 2010, 06:09 PM

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wow spunky's FF is so damn fast...
beat the MMstim


Added on September 6, 2010, 6:14 pmspunky went immortal HTs instead of colossus with superb micro for FF...
his FF is so gosu that i can pull my eyes off =(
HT for feedback without storm atm...


Added on September 6, 2010, 6:26 pmspunky lost game 2 to a BC transition in mid game LOL

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swt.. i cant watch./..
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post Sep 6 2010, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 6 2010, 05:36 PM)
rofl finally gotten in. god damn case sensitive unix servers LOL (and by that i meant my USERNAME)

=edits=
ok should be done, will mirror this on the vista lasik thread it self later with a screenshot lol.

unker incx please put it up first page, thanks ^^
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OMG!! Thanks Quazacolt. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Sep 6 2010, 08:32 PM)
OMG!! Thanks Quazacolt. biggrin.gif
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np and enjoy ^^
hope they help.
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Quazacolt vs pigsvscanfly.SC2Replay
i got zealot warped by Norada i believe? copied and used the same shit on this guy. so yeah :/


I rly like this replay. I did that once on a fren and he said that was a cheese. I personally dont consider that a cheese as you still follow the standard build order but with a lil diff that u secretly plant a plyon in their base. Even if that fails, u're still able to recover from it really quick.


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post Sep 6 2010, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(JuzJoe @ Sep 6 2010, 10:12 PM)
I rly like this replay. I did that once on a fren and he said that was a cheese. I personally dont consider that a cheese as you still follow the standard build order but with a lil diff that u secretly plant a plyon in their base. Even if that fails, u're still able to recover from it really quick.
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Yea saw it in one of the MLG games between huk and kiwikaki too.
huk planted a proxy pylon in his base and won basically from that ambush attack.
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post Sep 6 2010, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(JuzJoe @ Sep 6 2010, 04:56 PM)
I think it's time to kick this thread to overdrive! It's time for us to post map strats on the 1st page~
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I don't mind putting it up, but we do have to gather the strats first for each particular map.

@Quaz: So much la.. lol. I'll put it up when I have more time to spare. Have to slowly rearrange the stuff.
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post Sep 6 2010, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(JuzJoe @ Sep 6 2010, 10:12 PM)
I rly like this replay. I did that once on a fren and he said that was a cheese. I personally dont consider that a cheese as you still follow the standard build order but with a lil diff that u secretly plant a plyon in their base. Even if that fails, u're still able to recover from it really quick.
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thanks, and as i said, totally copied it from others as i am honestly not that flexible. in fact, i was on the verge of losing and my basic human nature to go for a win kicked in recalling what happened on the match before. who'd knew it'd work out so well.


Added on September 6, 2010, 10:46 pm
QUOTE(incx @ Sep 6 2010, 10:38 PM)
I don't mind putting it up, but we do have to gather the strats first for each particular map.

@Quaz: So much la.. lol. I'll put it up when I have more time to spare. Have to slowly rearrange the stuff.
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i could just pm you my entire post in coded bracket so all you needed to do is copy pasta, then later on filter out/re-arrange the whole thing when you got time tongue.gif

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That would definitely help a lot. tongue.gif

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