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samurai1337
post Aug 7 2010, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 7 2010, 08:48 AM)
Ok... managed to find the culprit... it seems that when I did a nandroid system recovery, my radio was reverted to old version... hmm.gif

no problems found after upgraded Radio ROM... hmm.gif
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That's weird tho... Nandroid restore shouldn't revert your Radio

Anyway, thanks for the heads up
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post Aug 7 2010, 09:46 AM

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I don't think there's anything else that would downgrade my radio cuz i did install the latest radio when downgrading the Hboot... hmm.gif

nothing else besides Nandroid tat is... hmm.gif
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post Aug 7 2010, 10:11 AM

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darn, just flashed NextSense this morning and here already LeeDroid 1.8 already out

have a question here, to those of you using Quick System Info, what does "System Storage" represent?



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post Aug 7 2010, 10:54 AM

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My God, this is going too fast for me to follow. I am still on LeeDroid 1.6. Has anyone tried out 1.8? I skipped 1.7 worrying that constant flashing might hurt the device.
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post Aug 7 2010, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(zamanjaafar @ Aug 7 2010, 10:11 AM)
darn, just flashed NextSense this morning and here already LeeDroid 1.8 already out

have a question here, to those of you using Quick System Info, what does "System Storage" represent?
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I flashed 3.4, 3.4a is out, then 4.0 is out again this morning laugh.gif

I am running a underclocked version of NextSense (806Mhz) - it still feels fast for most operations, only lower fps for quadrant test (doesn't matter to me as I don't play 3D games much). Don't know how much battery it would save yet, will update if there's significant boost in battery life smile.gif

QUOTE(Pennywise @ Aug 7 2010, 10:54 AM)
My God, this is going too fast for me to follow. I am still on LeeDroid 1.6. Has anyone tried out 1.8? I skipped 1.7 worrying that constant flashing might hurt the device.
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Yeah, it's fast for now but I guess it will slow down some time soon once all the bugs are fixed
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post Aug 7 2010, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2010, 08:27 AM)
I think the main difference is the save battery version didn't actually save battery cos of wrong setting

It is fixed now (as we speak, the latest version now is 4.0  hmm.gif )
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Haiz 4.0 ah? You updated or not? I've done customizing my 3.4 homescreen and this is the first ROM that didnt lag on me when putting so many widgets, i'm afraid changing it will make a difference. Maybe i'll stay until i see a huge upgrade or i got a big issue.

and btw if want to flash 4.0 can do straight away right? without wipe and all of my settings/apps/ data remain intact?
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post Aug 7 2010, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2010, 11:02 AM)
I flashed 3.4, 3.4a is out, then 4.0 is out again this morning  laugh.gif

I am running a underclocked version of NextSense (806Mhz) - it still feels fast for most operations, only lower fps for quadrant test (doesn't matter to me as I don't play 3D games much). Don't know how much battery it would save yet, will update if there's significant boost in battery life smile.gif
Yeah, it's fast for now but I guess it will slow down some time soon once all the bugs are fixed
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Droid X and iphone 4 has 1ghz processor but both are underclocked to 800+-Mhz only. Im not good at this part but i guess 800Mhz went just fine. Benchmarks arent so that important to real life. Imagine a page loading less a second from usual it does, u perhaps blinked ur eye and forgot how late that was.. lol.. in real life, such difference is not so that significant. Havent tried playing PSX4droid on 800mhz yet, if it works just fine, perhaps ill stick with it smile.gif

owh, i forgot another part, eventhough those phones are underclocked, they run under PowerVR chips which does not seem to be a problem when cpu is underclocked. Snapdragon and adreno combinations works so not that good i guess..

/facepalm

They both (neo + leo) seems like doing very great for now. Too bad satenza01 left desire for galaxyS.. His SetROM custom rom was very powerful and superb indeed i must say

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I think you don't have to do a full wipe as it's just minor changes

But I did full wipe anyway since i changed from 3.4a Normal to 4.0 Save battery version just to be safe
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2010, 11:10 AM)
I think you don't have to do a full wipe as it's just minor changes

But I did full wipe anyway since i changed from 3.4a Normal to 4.0 Save battery version just to be safe
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Well if normal to battery life i would have done the same. damn now should i go to 4.0~~
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QUOTE(pluginbaby @ Aug 7 2010, 11:09 AM)
Droid X and iphone 4 has 1ghz processor but both are underclocked to 800+-Mhz only. Im not good at this part but i guess 800Mhz went just fine. Benchmarks arent so that important to real life. Imagine a page loading less a second  from usual it does, u perhaps blinked ur eye and forgot how late that was.. lol.. in real life, such difference is not so that significant. Havent tried playing PSX4droid on 800mhz yet, if it works just fine, perhaps ill stick with it smile.gif

owh, i forgot another part, eventhough those phones are underclocked, they run under PowerVR chips which does not seem to be a problem when cpu is underclocked. Snapdragon and adreno combinations works so not that good i guess..

/facepalm

They both (neo + leo) seems like doing very great for now. Too bad satenza01 left desire for galaxyS.. His SetROM custom rom was very powerful and superb indeed i must say
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Good info to know, I thought so too as I'm not a speed freak

Mind explaining more on the bold part?


Added on August 7, 2010, 11:14 am
QUOTE(LuffyPSP @ Aug 7 2010, 11:12 AM)
Well if normal to battery life i would have done the same. damn now should i go to 4.0~~
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Your call...

The change log doesn't look like there's significant change (APN and 'other' fixes), although you may feel so since the number change from 3.4 to 4.0

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post Aug 7 2010, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2010, 11:12 AM)
Good info to know, I thought so too as I'm not a speed freak

Mind explaining more on the bold part?
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Htc Desire, Nexus one, Incredible, Evo 4G runs on Snapgradon 1Ghz with adreno GPUs. Droid X (TI OMAP 1ghz) and Iphone 4 (A4 1Ghz) uses PowerVR GPU (graphic processing unit) chip. PowerVR is much superior compared to our adreno in the snapdragon. Eventhough both of that phones are downclocked to a lower clock than 1ghz, both still is capable of of running graphic intensive games. See MotoDroid/Milestone, that phone is clocked to 550mhz but still produce decently good graphics.

Im not quite sure bout this either but i heard that some UI transitions are based on GPU acceleration. Same goes to video rendering, that shows why snapdragons does not natively support xvids and super compressed video formats. Ram is also auto allocated for cpu and gpu process and that is why we arent seeing 576MB total ram and above 400MB free, it seems like its auto allocated for system and hardware process.
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QUOTE(pluginbaby @ Aug 7 2010, 11:22 AM)
Htc Desire, Nexus one, Incredible, Evo 4G runs on Snapgradon 1Ghz with adreno GPUs. Droid X (TI OMAP 1ghz) and Iphone 4 (A4 1Ghz) uses PowerVR GPU (graphic processing unit) chip. PowerVR is much superior compared to our adreno in the snapdragon. Eventhough both of that phones are downclocked to a lower clock than 1ghz, both still is capable of of running graphic intensive games. See MotoDroid/Milestone, that phone is clocked to 550mhz but still produce decently good graphics.

Im not quite sure bout this either but i heard that some UI transitions are based on GPU acceleration. Same goes to video rendering, that shows why snapdragons does not natively support xvids and super compressed video formats. Ram is also auto allocated for cpu and gpu process and that is why we arent seeing 576MB total ram and above 400MB free, it seems like its auto allocated for system and hardware process.
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Ah thanks...

seems like HTC is running somewhat inferior hardware, although I am not too concerned about mobile 3D gaming.
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do you guys use tapatalk? i think we need to tell the admin to activate the tapatalk plugin so that we can browse[read, reply,etc] this forum from our android phone.. who can tell this to admin?

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QUOTE(maliqu3 @ Aug 7 2010, 11:31 AM)
do you guys use tapatalk? i think we need to tell the admin to activate the tapatalk plugin so that we can browse[read, reply,etc] this forum from our android phone.. who can tell this to admin?

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You can open a thread here
https://forum.lowyat.net/MainSiteForumFeedbackandHelpdesk
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post Aug 7 2010, 11:35 AM

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@samurai1337, how is the battery performance for the new ROM?
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@chding - too early to tell, still charging it now

Maybe can give an update tomorrow smile.gif
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2010, 11:30 AM)
Ah thanks...

seems like HTC is running somewhat inferior hardware, although I am not too concerned about mobile 3D gaming.
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Have a read on the link below if anyone is interested to know about snapdragon chips and the "upcoming" snapdragon which is rumored to be 1.2-1.5Ghz or perhaps running on dual core. Worth a read, it even performs slightly higher on benchmark compared to galaxy S (that specific benchmark, not a total overall performance for now we know).

Ruminations on various benchmarks for the OMAP 3600s, Hummingbird, and Snapdragon
TMobile’s "Project Emerald" is HTC Glacier, has a dual-core Snapdragon CPU, three times faster than EVO 4G and benchmarks!
Hummingbird vs. Snapdragon: The 1 GHz Smartphone Showdown
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Aug 7 2010, 11:34 AM)
i'm not allowed to open thread.. anyone can do it? it's nice when we can open lowyat forum anywhere and anytime in simple way(much simpler and faster if compared browsing the forum from android browser)
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QUOTE(maliqu3 @ Aug 7 2010, 11:39 AM)
i'm not allowed to open thread.. anyone can do it? it's nice when we can open lowyat forum anywhere and anytime in simple way(much simpler and faster if compared browsing the forum from android browser)
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See this.
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