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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Jones arrived, Diego leaving.OFFICIAL.

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post Jul 20 2010, 12:32 AM

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really cannot believe that joe cole join liverpool. i really love him as a player and now i can see the midfield linger with one player that does it all and dangerous. i think he will wear number 11 rather than 7. number 7 is a bit number voodoo for me actually. look at the australian.. lolz..
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post Jul 20 2010, 12:50 AM

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Hmmm ... Pardon me cos I just woke up from a long slumber .... Who are we playing tonight ??!!!!
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post Jul 20 2010, 12:57 AM

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are we playing? lol

Astro Super Sport Match Fixtures - [ Translate this page ]
Astro Super Sport Match Fixtures (Channel 811) Astro Super Sport Match Fixtures. FOOTBALL Club Friendly 24 July 2210 FC Kaiserslautern vs Liverpool (Live)

tonight meh?

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post Jul 20 2010, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Jul 20 2010, 12:32 AM)
really cannot believe that joe cole join liverpool. i really love him as a player and now i can see the midfield linger with one player that does it all and dangerous. i think he will wear number 11 rather than 7. number 7 is a bit number voodoo for me actually. look at the australian.. lolz..
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bros 11 is still mr alberto rieria (whos been given a 2nd chance by RH) rclxms.gif
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post Jul 20 2010, 01:03 AM

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Hmmm, not tonight ???? Got a Facebook message from a dear friend's missus saying he's off to Anfield on his own to watch a Europa match and I thought it's today !!!!! Thank for enlightening this ignoramous smile.gif
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post Jul 20 2010, 01:05 AM

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21st July I think we got a game

but i dunno what game would that be

guess astro doesnt show all

let me dig that up

:nope didnt find anything on soccernet

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post Jul 20 2010, 01:09 AM

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we have game RH 1st on wed..
Grasshoppers v Liverpool
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post Jul 20 2010, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(5uperMan @ Jul 20 2010, 01:02 AM)
bros 11 is still mr alberto rieria (whos been given a 2nd chance by RH)  rclxms.gif
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oops. sorry. but number 7 is a bit voodoo for me.
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post Jul 20 2010, 01:53 AM

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It really deosn't matter what number he wears..as long as he's fit for the most part of the season and plays consistently well I don't mind cuz it's been something l'pool have been lacking..injury-free + in-form players

BTW, what about the LB position since Insua and Aurelio left?
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jul 20 2010, 01:53 AM)
It really deosn't matter what number he wears..as long as he's fit for the most part of the season and plays consistently well I don't mind cuz it's been something l'pool have been lacking..injury-free + in-form players

BTW, what about the LB position since Insua and Aurelio left?
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agger most probably.
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post Jul 20 2010, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(RyanHo @ Jul 20 2010, 02:18 AM)
agger most probably.
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Well, I hope it's not him cuz he's not a natural LB. Rumour has it that RH is looking for Maynor Figeruoa and Paul Konchesky. OMG, I can't believe L'pool are opting for these kind of players. doh.gif
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take a good care of Joey...
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aurelio left? where is him now? i tot he jus rejected the pay system only
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jul 20 2010, 12:04 AM)
Hmm, could it be that RH is employing a winger-reliant formation, seeing all his buys?

Any Fulham F.C-proficient forumers may have a say as to RH's style of football?
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they beat man u few times last season if i am not wrong
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QUOTE(RyanHo @ Jul 20 2010, 02:53 AM)
aurelio left? where is him now? i tot he jus rejected the pay system only
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If I'm not mistaken he has no club now..he rejected l'pool's pay-as-you-play contract offer and decided to leave..wat a shame..was looking forward to seeing him score goals like he did against man u.. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:07 AM

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Welcome Joe Cole
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post Jul 20 2010, 08:48 AM

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hahahah...as usual, a thought provoking article from john Nicholson footballl365
http://www.football365.com/john_nicholson/...6269756,00.html

``I'm a big Joe Cole fan. There are not many of us left, it's true.
I know what you're thinking - Joe is yesterday's man; a show pony who promised much and delivered little; a crock who will never regain his form; the possessor of one of the funniest, wooden-legged step-overs in professional football and a Desperate Dan jaw. This might all be true. In fact it is all true. But that doesn't stop me being a fan.
I bloody love creative, inventive footballers who try outrageous things on a football pitch. I love dribblers and tricksters. Cole is one of those. Or at least he was back in the day.

And as a fan of that player I'd urge him to sign for Liverpool as quickly as possible. Forget playing for money, medals, Champions League football, forget title challenges.
Just. Play. Football.

Because when Cole does just play football he is fantastic to watch. But he just hasn't played enough football in a position that he can excel in; not for years now. His career has, if not exactly gone down the toilet, certainly lingered in the bathroom while the system has been flushed time and again.

Cole was destined to be a once-in-a-generation player 10 or 12 years ago - not even his best mate could say he's got anywhere near to living up to that early promise.

His only other option is Spurs but if he goes there he wo''t play each week and he'll end up like Robbie Keane, in a kind of void, pitching for a game against the likes of Luka Modric, who has proved a better, more valuable player more recently.

Redknapp would buy Cole but he doesn't need Cole at all, whereas Liverpool really badly need him. Better to go somewhere you're needed, I say.
At Liverpool he has a chance to become a hero that he could just never be at another London club and more importantly be a fulcrum around which the new Liverpool side will operate.

He will play every week and probably play centrally as an advanced attacking midfielder. The chances of him being stuck out on the left wing are quite small. Hodgson likes to play players in their preferred position - hardly a radical idea but an important one nonetheless.

Liverpool are desperate for some creativity and at just five million quids worth of wages, Cole seems a tremendous value option to provide that. The fans love but have been starved of some genuine flair and creativity in recent years. They want some attractive football to entertain them. We all do. And to that end, Joe Cole playing weekly and in the right position will improve all our football lives.

England has produced so few players who on their day are so good you'd pay to see them alone. Cole should have been one of those players. I recall seeing him play in the mid 90s against a Boro reserve side and it was as though he had liquid mercury for feet. His skill level was on a different plateau. He scored seven out of eight in a youth international but this seems to have been beaten out of him every season since. Partly this was due to the self-indulgence of youth, trying tricks and flicks in dangerous areas of the pitch, often losing possession, and as we all know in English football, that's a very big sin.

Quickly, he became that most English of things; a luxury player, in other words, not a box-to-box grafter-good-engine-on-him-sweat-machine. You can make mistakes if you're one of those and no-one in English football minds because you've 'put a shift in' and have 'tremendous work-rate' and in English football these two things trump any amount of bad passing and being caught in possession. However, if you try a bit of outrageous skill and mess it up you will be mercilessly criticised and you will end up tagged as some kind of liability.

Why do we do this to our most skilful footballers? You have to accept that they will try things that don't come off and others will have to clean up after him but when it's 0-0 and you're playing a side with ten behind the ball, that's when you need your magician to unlock the football chastity belt.
This was Cole's lot. So he had to change his game, to knock the very thing that was unique about his game, out of his game. Under Mourinho this worked quite well - his two best seasons were the title-winning ones - but it was like seeing the best guitarist in the band being forced to play the bongos. He played the bongos very well but good grief, look what we were missing.

Seeing him berated by Jose for being that flash, clever player saddened the heart but it's to his credit that he knuckled down and became part of the Mourinho machine.
Hodgson has a track record of reviving players whose careers have nose-dived. It would be a supreme irony if Cole was Hodgson's Danny Murphy at Liverpool, especially as Murphy is just four years older and in my mind, should have had a full career on Merseyside.
Had Cole gone abroad to Spain or Italy when he left West Ham I'm sure his career would have blossomed. In an environment where you have more time on the ball and where the concept of luxury players doesn't exist, who knows what he could have achieved. But sadly, English footballers seem distinctly uncurious about going overseas except on holiday.
I wrote a year ago that last season was a big one for Cole and that he should have moved away from Stamford Bridge to better fulfil his potential. A year on and his hand has been forced after frankly, if they're true, stupid wage demands that smacked of greed.

There are few bigger stages in football than Anfield. A Joe Cole, on top of his form, playing twice a week all season would grace that stage like few others. It'd be a Joe Cole who would walk back into the England side too. He has little or no competition as a creative attacking midfielder.
The time has come for him to make the best football decision of his career to date because frankly, I feel he's made all the wrong choices in the past. He could have left West Ham in 1997 aged just 16 for Manchester United for ten million. Imagine how he'd have flourished in that golden United era. Yes, moving to Chelsea brought him wealth and medals but in seven years, how many really great games has he played for them? I'd argue little more than a handful and most of them in the two title-winning teams - but that's over five years ago now. Since then a mixture of injury, lack of form and lack of managerial belief has stalled his career. Hodgson would put belief back into him and I maintain would make him the player he always should have been.
Choosing Spurs and the bosom of Redknapp would be massively retrograde step; more easy-going, un-testing, part-time football. Go to Liverpool and he could be the driving force behind the revival of one of England's biggest clubs. That's something to get excited about. So what's it to be JC?

Forget about the money, you're rich enough, it's time to write your football legend. But are you up for it?''

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jul 20 2010, 02:23 AM)
Well, I hope it's not him cuz he's not a natural LB. Rumour has it that RH is looking for Maynor Figeruoa and Paul Konchesky. OMG, I can't believe L'pool are opting for these kind of players.  doh.gif
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for short term maybe and plus we don have that much budget do we? if we don offer this kind of player who have tons of experience then who can we buy now? selling mascherano? yeah. we can buy players with that money but maybe we will invest on attacking players such as midfield or striker. if we can get players who have experience and decent with cheap price tag, get them first. maybe sooner or later, we can buy another good player next year with more additional funds.
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post Jul 20 2010, 09:01 AM

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whether Torres will stay or not, we need to have confidence in another attacker or 2 to make our attack more potent and bring the goals..

my wish? under Roy....
Jova will be a simple, ugly-styled but no nonsense goal scorer...(not a Voronin please)

Kuyt will become what he was before coming to Liverpool...a goal scorer

J. Cole will be a Dalglish more than a Kewell! ...creating and bringing in goals...

Babel will become what he was previously...a rampaging dribbler and runner with the ball...



and if Torres stays, Gerrard's form return and Aqui start to have a good injury free run...we might be in business of 4th place...

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post Jul 20 2010, 09:04 AM

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With J.Cole coming in will we see a 4-3-3 formation just like Netherlands? We do not have a lot of winger from the squad left.

Babel (preferable as striker)
Riera (most probably going to be sold soon)
Maxi

While we have more CM than winger
Gerrard
Lucas
Mascherano (Most probably going out)
Aquilani

By the way Wiki has given our new signing a number 7.



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