ok...Joe Cole....looks good.....(as long as there is no hidden deal of exchange with Torres)...

now things are looking `brighter'......Joe Cole, Jovanovic, Aqui, Agger, Skrtle, Reina,

IF Torres and Gerrard stays, my hopes are up again for a top 4 and even a good cup run...

and if Mascha have change of heart, why not...(but have feeling he is leaving).

just hope that Roy is planning for attractive football too..


PS....hope this is not another Harry Kewell saga....

This post has been edited by nando: Jul 19 2010, 09:57 PM

hahahah...as usual, a thought provoking article from john Nicholson footballl365
http://www.football365.com/john_nicholson/...6269756,00.html

``I'm a big Joe Cole fan. There are not many of us left, it's true.
I know what you're thinking - Joe is yesterday's man; a show pony who promised much and delivered little; a crock who will never regain his form; the possessor of one of the funniest, wooden-legged step-overs in professional football and a Desperate Dan jaw. This might all be true. In fact it is all true. But that doesn't stop me being a fan.
I bloody love creative, inventive footballers who try outrageous things on a football pitch. I love dribblers and tricksters. Cole is one of those. Or at least he was back in the day.

And as a fan of that player I'd urge him to sign for Liverpool as quickly as possible. Forget playing for money, medals, Champions League football, forget title challenges.
Just. Play. Football.

Because when Cole does just play football he is fantastic to watch. But he just hasn't played enough football in a position that he can excel in; not for years now. His career has, if not exactly gone down the toilet, certainly lingered in the bathroom while the system has been flushed time and again.

Cole was destined to be a once-in-a-generation player 10 or 12 years ago - not even his best mate could say he's got anywhere near to living up to that early promise.

His only other option is Spurs but if he goes there he wo''t play each week and he'll end up like Robbie Keane, in a kind of void, pitching for a game against the likes of Luka Modric, who has proved a better, more valuable player more recently.

Redknapp would buy Cole but he doesn't need Cole at all, whereas Liverpool really badly need him. Better to go somewhere you're needed, I say.
At Liverpool he has a chance to become a hero that he could just never be at another London club and more importantly be a fulcrum around which the new Liverpool side will operate.

He will play every week and probably play centrally as an advanced attacking midfielder. The chances of him being stuck out on the left wing are quite small. Hodgson likes to play players in their preferred position - hardly a radical idea but an important one nonetheless.

Liverpool are desperate for some creativity and at just five million quids worth of wages, Cole seems a tremendous value option to provide that. The fans love but have been starved of some genuine flair and creativity in recent years. They want some attractive football to entertain them. We all do. And to that end, Joe Cole playing weekly and in the right position will improve all our football lives.

England has produced so few players who on their day are so good you'd pay to see them alone. Cole should have been one of those players. I recall seeing him play in the mid 90s against a Boro reserve side and it was as though he had liquid mercury for feet. His skill level was on a different plateau. He scored seven out of eight in a youth international but this seems to have been beaten out of him every season since. Partly this was due to the self-indulgence of youth, trying tricks and flicks in dangerous areas of the pitch, often losing possession, and as we all know in English football, that's a very big sin.

Quickly, he became that most English of things; a luxury player, in other words, not a box-to-box grafter-good-engine-on-him-sweat-machine. You can make mistakes if you're one of those and no-one in English football minds because you've 'put a shift in' and have 'tremendous work-rate' and in English football these two things trump any amount of bad passing and being caught in possession. However, if you try a bit of outrageous skill and mess it up you will be mercilessly criticised and you will end up tagged as some kind of liability.

Why do we do this to our most skilful footballers? You have to accept that they will try things that don't come off and others will have to clean up after him but when it's 0-0 and you're playing a side with ten behind the ball, that's when you need your magician to unlock the football chastity belt.
This was Cole's lot. So he had to change his game, to knock the very thing that was unique about his game, out of his game. Under Mourinho this worked quite well - his two best seasons were the title-winning ones - but it was like seeing the best guitarist in the band being forced to play the bongos. He played the bongos very well but good grief, look what we were missing.

Seeing him berated by Jose for being that flash, clever player saddened the heart but it's to his credit that he knuckled down and became part of the Mourinho machine.
Hodgson has a track record of reviving players whose careers have nose-dived. It would be a supreme irony if Cole was Hodgson's Danny Murphy at Liverpool, especially as Murphy is just four years older and in my mind, should have had a full career on Merseyside.
Had Cole gone abroad to Spain or Italy when he left West Ham I'm sure his career would have blossomed. In an environment where you have more time on the ball and where the concept of luxury players doesn't exist, who knows what he could have achieved. But sadly, English footballers seem distinctly uncurious about going overseas except on holiday.
I wrote a year ago that last season was a big one for Cole and that he should have moved away from Stamford Bridge to better fulfil his potential. A year on and his hand has been forced after frankly, if they're true, stupid wage demands that smacked of greed.

There are few bigger stages in football than Anfield. A Joe Cole, on top of his form, playing twice a week all season would grace that stage like few others. It'd be a Joe Cole who would walk back into the England side too. He has little or no competition as a creative attacking midfielder.
The time has come for him to make the best football decision of his career to date because frankly, I feel he's made all the wrong choices in the past. He could have left West Ham in 1997 aged just 16 for Manchester United for ten million. Imagine how he'd have flourished in that golden United era. Yes, moving to Chelsea brought him wealth and medals but in seven years, how many really great games has he played for them? I'd argue little more than a handful and most of them in the two title-winning teams - but that's over five years ago now. Since then a mixture of injury, lack of form and lack of managerial belief has stalled his career. Hodgson would put belief back into him and I maintain would make him the player he always should have been.
Choosing Spurs and the bosom of Redknapp would be massively retrograde step; more easy-going, un-testing, part-time football. Go to Liverpool and he could be the driving force behind the revival of one of England's biggest clubs. That's something to get excited about. So what's it to be JC?

Forget about the money, you're rich enough, it's time to write your football legend. But are you up for it?''

This post has been edited by nando: Jul 20 2010, 08:50 AM

whether Torres will stay or not, we need to have confidence in another attacker or 2 to make our attack more potent and bring the goals..

my wish? under Roy....
Jova will be a simple, ugly-styled but no nonsense goal scorer...(not a Voronin please)

Kuyt will become what he was before coming to Liverpool...a goal scorer

J. Cole will be a Dalglish more than a Kewell! ...creating and bringing in goals...

Babel will become what he was previously...a rampaging dribbler and runner with the ball...



and if Torres stays, Gerrard's form return and Aqui start to have a good injury free run...we might be in business of 4th place...

This post has been edited by nando: Jul 20 2010, 09:03 AM

i know its only the SPL but good things do come out of Scotland, in form of Paisley, Dalglish, Hansen, Steve Nicol, Souness...and of course..Garry Macca

so i am optimistic about Wilson...read in RAWK forums (from those who watched him played for Rangers) that he is those `comfortable with the ball' type of defenders, who did well for Rangers last season. At only 18, i hope he'll improve.


if reference to Duke's thread, my wish for next season? (in this priority...)

1. club to have better owners than G and H
2. No title 19 for Mancs
3. A good cup run for Liverpool.
4. Torres to give us another year to see if the club is improving
5. Attractive football, with goals coming in from Aqui, Jova, Cole, Kuyt, and the others
6. Top 3.


anyway, for those of you who missed looking at our guys...plenty of latest pics here...even of Cole in Liverpool training outfit.....Aqui, Jova, Babel, Lukas...Stevie G...they are all here.
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index....opic=259903.920

only missing Torres...still holiday with his missus...

This post has been edited by nando: Jul 21 2010, 01:06 PM

hahahahahaha!!!


from this...



to this...






taken from RAWK forums

anything that makes Rafa looks bad, count the British press in!

preseason are meant to both test new ideas and to get the team ready for new season. its right to expect some good results but its also right not to expect too much.

i was actually anticipating a win but then, i wont lose my sleep...

but i agree with madmoz...i didnt feel good with all the poor-preseason results last year.......

Arsenal are at it again, winning with couple of goals...of course senior players like Nasri played (and scored) and its still Arsene's team and game...

This post has been edited by nando: Jul 22 2010, 03:39 PM

all these signings Cole, boy Danny or even Huntelaar...

they are only meaningful if Torres stays....

i still like Torres...he is recovering from injury, hungry for games...HE has proven himself in the English game...he is a passionate kid when it comes to Liverpool....it will be madness to cash in on him...pure madness...

This post has been edited by nando: Jul 23 2010, 08:58 AM

It will be a huge tragedy if Torres leaves. No player is bigger than the club yet, but i cant recall Liverpool letting go a player at the prime of their career, with exception of Ian Rush. This boy loves Liverpool, understand the fans and has proven himself to be a huge success in the EPL.

Use his money to buy 2 strikers? Buy who? Heck, you can bring in Kaka, Forlan, Villa or anyone else to Liverpool. there is always the question of whether one can adapt and score goals in the EPL.


Its fair for fans to expect one more season from Torres. Even Roy have openly declare that Liverpool must find new owner soon.

If we still fail to qualify for CL or win anything, fair enough, have your move. But with a new coach, new players, why not give the Kop one more chance?

No, i wont trust the Yanks with 70 or 700 millions. Not them.


Come on Nando, give us one more season please. ONE more season. If Roy, Cole, and the whole club turns out to be a disaster and shame next season, fine, have your move.

This post has been edited by nando: Jul 26 2010, 05:25 PM

ditto!

Torres, one more season please. If Cole finally fulfills his potential for a whole season (not sporadically or in patches), Gerrard returns to his rampaging self, and Aqui starts to impose himself, we may put together a memorable season. Just one season and see if the club is really going places.

Torres...before going to bed....let me offer my


you got the skills, the money, the WC and Euro medals, the wife, the kid....


and you decided...you still need to stay on and play for the best club in the world....

ditto. it is not easy. after watching teams led by Paisley, Fagan and Dalglish filling our trophy cabinets, it is heartbreaking to see Souness, Evans, Houllier and Rafa failing....

the buyover talks are heating up...even about Liverpool becoming the richest club in the world.....

If 1-2 years from now we end up reclaiming the title with a hugely expensive mega millionaire squad, i will rejoice....but i will still miss the old days when we won the title with only 1-2 superstars (Keegan, Dalglish, Rush)......

there seems to be a nice momentum. Gerrard looks interested, Cole is filled with enthusiasm....
If the rest of players play above their usual levels, we may occupy a healthy position after 5 games...

Looking back at all the dark clouds surrounding us when Rafa left, I'll be happy if we occupy 3rd place after the first 5 games...

yeah...Liverpool have it all..the pain and tears included...

.....losing title to Arsenal with last kick of season (and buying the player who scored that goal!)

1st modern day superstar who was later sold to Europe (Keegan)

1st club to have shirt sponsor on chest (Hitachi)

banned from competing in Europe during one of their most successful era....

other painful matches


1. losing to Crystal Palace in FA cup semi final......(and to imagine that we thumped them 9-0 in the League game earlier)! we could have won another double then

2. losing to ugly Wimbledon in the FA cup final....

if not mistaken, all because of weakness in defending in the air...all were headed goals....ARG!!

oh man....tons of transfer news and take over news...

just bring the season on man...cant wait.......

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Added on August 11, 2010, 10:01 pmwow...not a very charming fella isnt it? havent bought the club yet, already talking like this......not a good way to start.

This post has been edited by nando: Aug 11 2010, 10:01 PM

We Dont Look Dangerous.....

what a way to start the season....a red card for one that is supposed to bring us to excitement.....

45 minutes? full of back passes and then hooooof...the long ball....

oh dearie me...

ngog = kuyt ...either love him or hate him...

Jova reminds me of Mad Erik...but more skillful and look likelier to score..hahaahahah

This post has been edited by nando: Aug 16 2010, 12:13 AM

lots of back passing and high ball...nothing exciting in term of quality...

but we started the 2nd half on fire...catching Arsenal by suprise...

question is when Arsenal settles down and start attacking, we need to maintain focus...and hopefully nick a 2nd...

This post has been edited by nando: Aug 16 2010, 12:20 AM