we still hardly seen the different between dx9 and dx11 except unigine benchmark, normal mapping technique puts really well on making low poly to see like high poly model..if the shader doesnt exist,maybe we can see graphic card with 256 rops already
where are shader model 5.0 anyway

This post has been edited by zerorating: Oct 20 2010, 01:23 AM

Makes it sound more like a gimmick >_<
Owh, there's also Metro 2033. I think Dirt 2 and Battleforge are better DX11 titles. And maybe even Civ V, although it doesn't actually look that great.

256 rops. That's scary isn't it? xD
Ever wondered how long a 5990 would be if not for the introduction of the HD6000? =P
Just not too long ago, ATI was just like that!

Thought Shader 5.0 was supposed to be established with the RV800 and the GTX400 series....
Hardware progresses too fast!!! Try name me 20 DX11 games >_>

which is better? ati or nvidia? I heard ati got a bit problem compared to nvidia and the setting in ati quite difficult than nvidia. Is it true? Correct me if Im wrong.

yup its true, nvidia give many customization inside nvidia control panel compared to ccc,but most people can still live without it to me, ati produce better hardware for user (power, performance per mm, reliability) and their driver starting to improve really nicely. Believe me, nvidia didnt even care if your obsolete hardware got issue running on newer driver that was made for newer hardware. In here who even can forget about 8400/8600m gt timebomb issue

This post has been edited by zerorating: Oct 20 2010, 01:55 AM

Your question is quite open. But this is ATI thread, so you will be recommended to go for ATI

if u're interested on dx11 games, the following articles is a good read...

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,793868/...ames/Knowledge/

yea you're right ..I never experience in nvidia before..Just want to know which is better..mostly my mate prefer me go for ATI..

Thanks! Though I was posing more of a rhetorical question >_<

well i do recommend my friends to buy gtx460 before,but since hd6850/6870 are coming, no more reason to get gtx460 (except if you really care about physx or folding@home)

got any 6850 benchmark?

wait for 1ghz toxic version


44c at 23% fan speed on idle (in china) seems nice but full load temp of 78c seems to worry about, anyway stock hd6870 already beats oced gtx460 at 900mhz

This post has been edited by zerorating: Oct 20 2010, 10:07 AM

those who have 58xx series.. no point upgrading..
what's the major changes?

hd6870 are not highest-end card like hd5800series, its targetted for gamers sweet spot area similar to 4800series before. This card are meant for users that use slower card than hd5800 series. The difference are better tessellation performance and 3d support Current hd5800 series users can wait for hd6950/hd6970 or wait for southern island

This post has been edited by zerorating: Oct 20 2010, 10:09 AM

how's the price to performance factor compared to 5850? i believe 6870 and 5850's price are close rite?

we can justify when they are flooded in the market.. too early to make such comparison.. and the new 6 series lesser power consumption also have lesser SP trade off..

sorry, what's SP mean again? thanks

yea, probably wait for non ref cards then only start comparing, but good to see we can squeeze more out of our moneh


This post has been edited by darude87: Oct 20 2010, 12:02 PM

it's Stream Processors..
just think like multiple processor for the gpu..

it's maybe no much different.. but it's there when the games need it..

Both will be trading blows