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post May 5 2005, 08:51 PM

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welcome to the 21st century
u can bring ur honour and pride back to the past where they are left behind
for which nobody cares

j00 have been pawned by Mutsumi-san !!!!

Anyway tourneys should ban pumping. If they don't however, you sure have to play pump cause if ur opponent does and you don't, who's gonna lose?
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post May 5 2005, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(gM | Mutsumi-san @ May 5 2005, 08:16 PM)
welcome to the 21st century
u can bring ur honour and pride back to the past where they are left behind
for which nobody cares
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doh.gif ... you're still in your dream lill girl, i didnt read your post earlier, paiseh arh
if there's no pride and honour then you will not feel ashamed, can you feel ashamed when something which embarrase u happen on u ?
if yes then you still have the pride and honour.

Thats the reason why girls doesnt have pride and honour, because they always lie to themselves and think what they say is right. Which is WRONG
nearly everyone here thinks that pumping should be banned in Tourneys, bah even yukito agrees with it

bah and if you think pumping is the way to win, you might as well go down further, go smoke, go take estacy pills or drugs, thats the lowest thing you can do when you dont have the pride and honour.
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pfft, dishonoured girl. dry.gif

NOTE : nearly every guys here has their own honour and pride. So dont make stupid statements saying something like
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u can bring ur honour and pride back to the past where they are left behind
for which nobody cares

its just too FUGLY

This post has been edited by SeeD: May 5 2005, 08:57 PM
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post May 5 2005, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ May 5 2005, 08:55 PM)
doh.gif ... you're still in your dream lill girl, i didnt read your post earlier, paiseh arh
if there's no pride and honour then you will not feel ashamed, can you feel ashamed when something which embarrase u happen on u ?
if yes then you still have the pride and honour.

Thats the reason why girls doesnt have pride and honour, because they always lie to themselves and think what they say is right. Which is WRONG
nearly everyone here thinks that pumping should be banned in Tourneys, bah even yukito agrees with it

bah and if you think pumping is the way to win, you might as well go down further, go smoke, go take estacy pills or drugs, thats the lowest thing you can do when you dont have the pride and honour.
yawn.gif

pfft, dishonoured girl. dry.gif

NOTE : nearly every guys here has their own honour and pride. So dont make stupid statements saying something like
its just too FUGLY
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SeeD, stop flaming leh... I don't wish to see this thread to be filled with arguments sad.gif

Ermm... one question, if you just have level 1 lucent beam, does it mean that your eclipse does less damage?
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post May 5 2005, 09:10 PM

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haihya pumping is the way to win man(unless u wan ur ally leave the red life creep to u XD)
last saturday my fren go play tourny
at lv 11 the morpling ada
-power treads
-eye of skadi
-heart of tarasque
-burize
haih so 1st round he lose coz his team less money item
2nd round more gay"their team" bone clinks ada
-power treads
-desolator
-crysalis
-bkb
-butterfly!!!!
-aegis of the imortal!!!OMFGHAXOR!!
lv 11 ><

This post has been edited by dk999: May 5 2005, 09:11 PM
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post May 5 2005, 11:06 PM

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umm...you kua cheong liao tongue.gif
i have all the replays ler, haven't seen any with pumps as fast as that

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post May 6 2005, 12:03 AM

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APITT one.....

sentinels are really too much lolx...esp. blue, one of the greater super farmers....

and morphling with skadi, bkb, manta, buttlerfly.... WOOT WOOT!
makes me think whether i should buy mantas for dragon knight as well - freeze the whole damn base lolx!

btw, it's a great 'pumping' gamr thumbup.gif
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post May 6 2005, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(YuuYuu @ May 5 2005, 08:28 PM)
anyways, here's the replay of how the bone pwned sven (and everyone else) with the help of pumping and timestop. IMO, the bone player was very much better than the sven player, plus, the Monash team had really good teamwork. Taylors was pretty much pwned from start to finish.
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dun get it leh ... taylors pwn from start to finish.........but then got pwned???


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post May 6 2005, 11:36 PM

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isn't the team with urworsefear the monash team?
cause i watched a few replays of monash team with them in it
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post May 7 2005, 03:40 AM

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hahhaahahha dk999 i find that impossible to believe
lvl 11 with:
- power treads - 500 + 610 + 420 = 1530
- desolator - 1610 + 1610 + 1500 = 4720
- crystalys - 1200 + 650 + 1300 = 3150
- bkb - 1200 + 1000 + 1450 = 3650
- butterfly - 3600 + 1150 + 1400 = 6150
- aegis of the immortal - 1100 + 1775 + 1375 + 2000 = 6250

total price of 25450 at lvl 11...
unless their heroes die within 10 seconds of coming out of the base everytime (in which case you don't need such items), its near impossible...or just plain impossible ahahhaha
and whats the point of the aegis?
bones with those items should kill anybody within 5 (+/- 2 secs) seconds at lvl 11 and you've got a bkb too
getting an mkb would be better...then you can kill within 2 secs hahahaah

i was just thinking...since evereybody pumps in tourneys, does anybody pick razor??
razor for the sole reason of farming and pumping
but i suppose if you play in tourneys you (or teammate) should be getting almost every creep of almost every wave
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post May 7 2005, 04:00 AM

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nearly everyone here thinks that pumping should be banned in Tourneys, bah even yukito agrees with it


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Anyway tourneys should ban pumping

Sigh SeeD all you need is a tiny winy more observation when viewing other people's post. See MY quote right up there. If you can do that I believe you'll have less things to argue with around here whistling.gif

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Thats the reason why girls doesnt have pride and honour, because they always lie to themselves and think what they say is right. Which is WRONG

And please, leave your sexual discrimination attitude out of this arguement, it does not have any valid points anyway. Girls nowadays are greater than you think, and most probably greater than you whistling.gif

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and whats the point of the aegis?

Useful when backdooring with bone

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since evereybody pumps in tourneys, does anybody pick razor??

Bone > Razor. Cause strafe does not take extra damage whereas frenzy does. And windwalk gives you such a huge advantage.

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Ermm... one question, if you just have level 1 lucent beam, does it mean that your eclipse does less damage?

Yes
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post May 7 2005, 11:14 AM

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erm yukito, i wasn't meaning to pick razor over bones
still continue to use bones as the main hero
i meant picking razor as a supporter (pumper) since he's such a great farmer
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post May 7 2005, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(huh @ May 7 2005, 03:40 AM)
hahhaahahha dk999 i find that impossible to believe
lvl 11 with:
- power treads - 500 + 610 + 420 = 1530
- desolator - 1610 + 1610 + 1500 = 4720
- crystalys - 1200 + 650 + 1300 = 3150
- bkb - 1200 + 1000 + 1450 = 3650
- butterfly - 3600 + 1150 + 1400 = 6150
- aegis of the immortal - 1100 + 1775 + 1375 + 2000 = 6250

total price of 25450 at lvl 11...
unless their heroes die within 10 seconds of coming out of the base everytime (in which case you don't need such items), its near impossible...or just plain impossible ahahhaha
and whats the point of the aegis?
bones with those items should kill anybody within 5 (+/- 2 secs) seconds at lvl 11 and you've got a bkb too
getting an mkb would be better...then you can kill within 2 secs hahahaah

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you play safe and continue farming, it's not impossible at all - you're playing a pumping strat, meaning "GET AS FEW EXPENSIVE ITEMS AS POSSIBLE AND FOCUS ON STACKING MONEY". With the constant flow of income at 8 per 7 seconds, it's quite possible. Plus, they have pushers/farmers like krobelus and necrolyte, juz that it'd be hard for them to keep on pressing ctrl to see health bars lolx.... i know that for a fact - it's very stressful sweat.gif

aegis's for playing safe - they had only one pumped up hero. If bone goes down, the whole team goes down as well. they rely heavily on bones to finish off their opponents, juz like where sentinels rely on sven to finish off opponents - they are like a standard(like those warbanners, i mean) for both sides. Besides, extra protection against spells wont hurt much in the long outcome too happy.gif

QUOTE(Yukito @ May 7 2005, 04:00 AM)
And please, leave your sexual discrimination attitude out of this arguement, it does not have any valid points anyway. Girls nowadays are greater than you think, and most probably greater than you whistling.gif
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ahhahx....i know some girl named thetard in Gaya clan pwned me in a bnet game hahahx.... blush.gif
and summore the fella who teach me dota was a girl too sweat.gif
EEESH!

QUOTE(huh @ May 7 2005, 11:14 AM)
erm yukito, i wasn't meaning to pick razor over bones
still continue to use bones as the main hero
i meant picking razor as a supporter (pumper) since he's such a great farmer
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bones will definitely be a winner for the following reasons(adding some of it from Yukito's as well):

1st - chain lightning aint good at middle-late rounds. Creeps have much higher HP by then.

2nd - Razor's initial dmg sux bad....

3rd - Why need Razor as a farmer where you can use bone to feed off from enemy heroes rolleyes.gif

and AS for him being a supporter:
1st - chain lightning aint a good pushing spell... it bounces and with each bounces it deals less dmg. Carrion swarm-type spells or Death Wave-like spells are always the most ideal spells used in farming.

2nd - what else can he do other than juz shoot off chain lightnings and raw attacks? Unlike krobelus, he doesnt have any necessary spells to assist in battle. Timestopper has Carrion Swarm + Timestop, Demon Witch has Impale + Hex + Finger of Death, Krobelus has Carrion Swarm + Silence + Exorcism... and what does Razor have? Chain Lightning + Storm Seeker(his ult....dunno what name lolx) aint good work. i mean, are you that silly enough to run with heroes, knowing that they have stunners and can stun you anytime? You dont wanna feed them..... smile.gif

This post has been edited by sanjikun: May 7 2005, 03:04 PM
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post May 7 2005, 03:51 PM

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any good 4 v 4 or 5 v 5 combo teams in all pick?
which hero can combo each other???
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post May 7 2005, 03:51 PM

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any good 4 v 4 or 5 v 5 combo teams in all pick?
which hero can combo each other???
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post May 7 2005, 08:28 PM

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anyone willing to sharre their replay here...coz really wan to watch it...thankz .. : )
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post May 7 2005, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(sanjikun @ May 7 2005, 03:04 PM)
ahhahx....i know some girl named thetard in Gaya clan pwned me in a bnet game hahahx.... blush.gif
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Oh, I don't know that thetard is a girl wub.gif She seldom showed up recently...
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post May 8 2005, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(szeping @ May 7 2005, 10:06 PM)
Oh, I don't know that thetard is a girl  wub.gif  She seldom showed up recently...
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duno la....
i somehow forgot edi hahhx....
that time she said she's one of the only female gaya players, might know how she look like - game mags have one of her pictures biggrin.gif
she's playing rhasta(she's the host btw), i was playing nerub assasin. both alone at the same lane, at lv 6 she starts killing me hahhahahz

damn malu, but prolly the lag made me her b**** lolx....
well, a lost is a lost neway happy.gif
and i totally admit defeat blush.gif

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OMG!damn..i've jus finish playing dota 5.84C in my utp bnet server..demm..i'm jus playing random and got sniper..
but the real sh*t is ..the SK,yup..not ske king..but the scorpion..demm..sudennly he came to my lane at around lvl 7 and using his ulti..demm..i said to myself..'wtf is he doing?"
then..he use dagger of escape..then got me and drow..and there he goes..changing the scourge hero to tougher hero..and there..we got defeated..
the main topic here..SK got new tactic..using dagger escape for using ulti..demm..i can barely escape without BKB..haha
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post May 8 2005, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(jAkUn @ May 8 2005, 08:46 AM)
OMG!damn..i've jus finish playing dota 5.84C in my utp bnet server..demm..i'm jus playing random and got sniper..
but the real sh*t is ..the SK,yup..not ske king..but the scorpion..demm..sudennly he came to my lane at around lvl 7 and using his ulti..demm..i said to myself..'wtf is he doing?"
then..he use dagger of escape..then got me and drow..and there he goes..changing the scourge hero to tougher hero..and there..we got defeated..
the main topic here..SK got new tactic..using dagger escape for using ulti..demm..i can barely escape without BKB..haha
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Err... that is not a new tactic. A lot of players at my place uses this tactic and it is good.
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post May 8 2005, 11:35 AM

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Last night game:

Game was down to 3v2, I was using omniknight with techie and vengeful spirit vs jugger and drow ranger. When we got 8 towers down at level 19, then VS suggested to play a trick with techie which I wasn't being informed. The VS put ALL his items in the middle of 6 remote mines... including a burize, MoM, thread and broadsword and bla bla bla... then he swap the ranger into the mines while jugger is already inside the mines (I was in the other lane). Just before techie detonated the mines, both of them activated BKB sweat.gif And I left the game afterwards when they killed techie and VS and took all the items.

Don't try this at home...

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