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leyley
post Oct 13 2010, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Oct 13 2010, 06:18 PM)
i think cover by warranty. unsure.gif
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Does Samsung replaced like Dell? Dell Support will get the drive swapped under warranty if more than 10 blocks
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post Oct 13 2010, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ Oct 13 2010, 09:06 PM)
Unless I'm mistaken, then you are not short stroking the HDDs or the RAID array.
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What is your definition and how would you short stroke your hardisk?

When you first partition the RAID 0 array, you create the partition on the outermost part of the platter which is the fastest part of the hardisk. You put your OS, page file and the most used programs on this fastest part of the hardisk. The other non frequently used data can be put into the other partition for additional storage. The storage partition is not frequently accessed, so no worries of degrading the short stroked RAID 0 array. The performance would only degrade into a performance of a normal drive when data from the other partition is accessed. But loading the OS and running programs on that short stroked RAID 0 partition array would still force and limit the hardisk head to seek in the narrow and fastest part of the hardisk.
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post Oct 13 2010, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(leyley @ Oct 13 2010, 09:48 PM)
Does Samsung replaced like Dell? Dell Support will get the drive swapped under warranty if more than 10 blocks
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post Oct 13 2010, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:42 PM)
What is your definition and how would you short stroke your hardisk?

When you first partition the RAID 0 array, you create the partition on the outermost part of the platter which is the fastest part of the hardisk. You put your OS, page file and the most used programs on this fastest part of the hardisk. The other non frequently used data can be put into the other partition for additional storage. The storage partition is not frequently accessed, so no worries of degrading the short stroked RAID 0 array. The performance would only degrade into a performance of a normal drive when data from the other partition is accessed. But loading the OS and running programs on that short stroked RAID 0 partition array would still force and limit the hardisk head to seek in the narrow and fastest part of the hardisk.
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This type: Short Stroking: How It Works

Your description of what you did uses age old concepts of partitioning. Short stroking, iianm, is something relatively new.

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Make a partition, it'll be on the outter edge, done. That TH article takes the simplest task and shows how to waste a bunch of effort to get the same result.

Source: Short Stroking Question

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post Oct 15 2010, 01:35 PM

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Hello everyone! I want to buy a new 1TB external hdd and considering getting hd103sj F3 Spinpoint (rm174 @Czone from previous post) since it get positive review from everyone here but I want the transfer speed faster than usb2.0. I'm wondering which enclosure option would be better, any advice?

usb3.0: hornettek goliath ht-318-u3 (RM150) + expresscardbus usb3.0 (RM196)

or

esata: vantec nst-d100su (RM120) + expresscard esata (RM95)

Or should I just get a ready-made external hdd? Thank you

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post Oct 15 2010, 01:41 PM

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Talking about hard disk, is it worth it to get the flash hard drive ?
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post Oct 15 2010, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Potatojii @ Oct 15 2010, 01:41 PM)
Talking about hard disk, is it worth it to get the flash hard drive ?
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u meant SSD?
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post Oct 15 2010, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Potatojii @ Oct 15 2010, 01:41 PM)
Talking about hard disk, is it worth it to get the flash hard drive ?
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If you meant by SSD, it is very worth the money on certain cases.

For regular people with regular needs like browsing the internet and gaming, the answer is no. But if SSDs become cheap enough, the answer is a strong yes; because these people usually need all the help they can get to keep their computers running at optimal performance.

For programmers who build huge C/C++ applications a lot, the answer is clear yes. I have reduced a six hour build time to about three hours with the help of a "budget"-class SSD.

For programmers that works with large applications, the answer is probably yes.

For enthusiasts that are willing to spend a lot of money, the answer is strongly recommended. Anybody who plans to spend RM3K and above on hardware ought to seriously consider it.

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QUOTE(Nam226 @ Oct 15 2010, 01:35 PM)
Hello everyone! I want to buy a new 1TB external hdd and considering getting hd103sj F3 Spinpoint (rm174 @Czone from previous post) since it get positive review from everyone here but I want the transfer speed faster than usb2.0. I'm wondering which enclosure option would be better, any advice?

usb3.0: hornettek goliath ht-318-u3 (RM150) + expresscardbus usb3.0 (RM196)

or

esata: vantec nst-d100su (RM120) + expresscard esata (RM95)

Or should I just get a ready-made external hdd? Thank you
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post Oct 15 2010, 07:09 PM

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Ugh, that will cost a whopping RM520 for one usb3.0 1TB ext hdd!!! I am gonna need a money printing machine too...lol! rclxub.gif Thanks!
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QUOTE(Nam226 @ Oct 15 2010, 07:09 PM)
Ugh, that will cost a whopping RM520 for one usb3.0 1TB ext hdd!!! I am gonna need a money printing machine too...lol!  rclxub.gif Thanks!
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Samsung HD103SJ is RM169 at viewnet. Plus there's no surcharge when you use CC. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 16 2010, 02:02 AM

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Good to know that I can get RM5 cheaper without surcharge somemore, mate! Now if only the expresscardbus usb3.0 isn't so expensive.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Oct 16 2010, 01:25 AM)
Samsung HD103SJ is RM169 at viewnet. Plus there's no surcharge when you use CC.  thumbup.gif
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that's freeking cheap biggrin.gif
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post Oct 16 2010, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(Nam226 @ Oct 15 2010, 07:09 PM)
Ugh, that will cost a whopping RM520 for one usb3.0 1TB ext hdd!!! I am gonna need a money printing machine too...lol!  rclxub.gif Thanks!
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Not really, if you think about the future, your next HDD purchase won't require you to buy another USB3 adapter right?
Well you save for every new HDD you going to buy. wink.gif
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post Oct 16 2010, 01:28 PM

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If you put it that way... it does make more sense to invest in usb3.0 for the future instead of esata smile.gif
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post Oct 16 2010, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Oct 16 2010, 04:07 AM)
that's freeking cheap  biggrin.gif
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Samsung 2TB also only RM290 last week i bought.. haha
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post Oct 17 2010, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(accs_centre @ Oct 16 2010, 03:45 PM)
Samsung 2TB also only RM290 last week i bought.. haha
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which shop selling at RM290? I need to get one today
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Oct 17 2010, 09:41 AM)
which shop selling at RM290? I need to get one today
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will grap this 2tb very soon. Currently runnin out of space.... sweat.gif
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post Oct 17 2010, 01:12 PM

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Want to grab 1 too, but chassis no more space for more hard disk... lol... need to grab new chassis first xD"
Anyone know Kuching here got sell cheap for 2TB Samsung F4EG? I found 1 that selling RM348. (^^")

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