envy you, lol, i cant find a single litre of torco tr5  here.... 

Petrocanada seems best for protection.

is API SM and API SN.. Got Put API normally won't harm engine...

can tell me whats the other half of the story please?

you try to write to Torco, i also want to hear from a racing oil company

umm my previous post was from an email they replied after i wrote to them. so you wanna tell me what i am missing on the other half of their story?

You are not missing the story, they are actually hiding the story..

izit because of it's HTHS?

i couldn't see what they were hiding. i assume you could? can tell me please?

Phosphorus limits of 800 ppm apply to API SM SAE 0W20, 0W30,5W20,5W30 and 10W30 oils only..IF CF-4,CG-4, CH-4 or CI-4 categories precede SM or SL and or there is no API certification mark, the limit for phosphorus does not apply.

so does your oil falls under those category? or does it not have API certification mark?

also, torco admitted themselves they are not API certified. in what form of that is hiding anything?

i am using this "CI-4 categories precede SM or SL"

CI-4 – 2002 Severe-Duty Diesel Engine Service – The API CI-4 Service category describes oils for use in those high-speed, four-stroke
cycle diesel engines designed to meet 2004 exhaust emission standards, to be implemented October 2002. These oils are compounded
for use in all applications with diesel fuels ranging in sulfur content up to 0.05% by weight. These oils are especially effective at sustaining
engine durability where Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) and other exhaust emission componentry may be used. Optimum protection
is provided for control of corrosive wear tendencies, low and high temperature stability, soot handling properties, piston deposit control,
valvetrain wear, oxidative thickening, foaming and viscosity loss due to shear. API CI-4 oils can effectively lubricate engines calling for API
CH-4, CG-4 and CF-4 Service Categories. LE’s 8888 MONOLEC EGR Plus Engine Oil meets the CI-4 and CI-4 Plus specification.

Introduced in 2002. For high-speed, four-stroke engines designed to meet 2004 exhaust emission standards
implemented in 2002. CI-4 oils are formulated to sustain engine durability where exhaust gas recirculation
(EGR) is used and are intended for use with diesel fuels ranging in sulfur content up to 0.5% weight. Can
be used in place of CD, CE, CF-4, CG-4, and CH-4 oils. Some CI-4 oils may also qualify for the CI-4 PLUS
designation.

Update:

are we comparing to this oil http://www.lucasoil.com/images/medialibrar...40_MotorOil.pdf

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=5&pcid=21

redline seems like the best in the pool.. maybe shall give a try on my own if price is within my budget

no, it does not preceed SM or SL, it is simply a different categorization altogether.
also, lol the emission level standards. then again in malaysia, we have no emission standards LOL
source: http://www.motorexbih.com/API-SAE%20Engine...l%20Service.pdf
source: http://www.apicj-4.org/2009_ENGINE_OIL_GUIDE.pdf

i'll pass on using diesel engine oil for my petrol car. my manufacturer/owners manual didnt recommend me to go with diesel engine oils. no thank you

Oops I just notice an error in the VI of Lucas 10w40.
Should be 163 instead of 170. Wonder how did I get that figure.

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Added on August 7, 2012, 12:44 pmif this model is correct the figure for flash point is also wrong.. 410 deg F = 210 deg C

i am using this "CI-4 categories precede SM or SL"

You are using Diesel Engine Specified Engine oil for your car? You car is Diesel engine or Petrol Engine?

if you notice in torco http://www.torcousa.com/technology/TDS_SR-1%20MotorOil.pdf and http://www.lucasoil.com/images/medialibrar...40_MotorOil.pdf

with ACEA category of A3/B3 and API SM/CF which mean suitable for diesel engine oil, why not vice versa?

Just for reference.. No heart feeling

http://www.apicj-4.org/2009_ENGINE_OIL_GUIDE.pdf

http://www.acea.be/images/uploads/files/20...l_Sequences.pdf

wait. in which part that torco mentioned that their motor oils are suitable for diesel engine? also, regardless of motor oil compatible with diesel engines, i dont think one should assume that this works vice versa? just the additive contents and detergent contents is different enough to warrant a valid justification that it should not be suitable.

also, no "hard feelings".
and yes, none at all. i won't be pouring diesel engine oils into my car, thanks