Last time i was using mixed. 1st 2 years was nasa and shell. The last year change to liqui moly but it was already after 2nd top overhaul. Every month need to change oil because its all dried up. Liqui moly is very smooth and for 3 piston car like kancil fell smooth like no other engine oil i use. (well of course use cap ayam oil)

this tr5 10w30 is how many L ? price? 

I use 3 litres and one liter cost me rm34.

I use 3 litres and one liter cost me rm34.

quite ex ur price lol. then again few ringgit difference, somemore the workshop i goto is quite familiar with me already ^^;

API SN is for semi-synthetic or for mineral? or it just depends, guys?

Torco replies to my query
"I have tried to look up your certifications towards API, however i can't seem to find it. Of course you guys have made many claims on exceeding the API standards/requirements, however thats your words against anyone else's and i believe it would be more of a peace of mind to know that there is an actual certification backing it up should i use your products.

If you guys do have your engine oil certified, could you guys link me some proof on the certification?"
the initial reply before the more formatted/detailed one:

find your car owners manual, and check the recommended oil. there they would have stated the minimun api rating to be used for the car.

Many people don't read their car manual. And think all mechanic and oil salesman are expert.

if zinc is the main ingredient, i can get you a FS motor oil with more than 2000 ppm and still cheaper than Torco and still API certified and approved oil

its the first book i read every time i collect a new car.

here is the contradiction:
- having more than 2000 ppm
- API-SM rating no longer approves anything more than 800ppm, SN is even worse.

so... is this some ancient/dated API certification, or you sure you're not cheated? (either the additives, or the certification)

Can share how to read and what eaxh means?

Bro, please check with Torco , API & ILSAC controls zinc on which viscosity grade of oil...you will have the answer

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Added on August 6, 2012, 12:10 pm from the chart, i notice you are comparing SAE xxW-40 oil..

Can share how to read and what eaxh means?

Can share how to read and what eaxh means?

Hope this helps:

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthrea...-and-Synthetics

Thanks.

API SM or API SN? I know SN is newer, but putting API SM oil will not cause harm right?

my mail is not enough? they exceed the zinc ppm amount and thus fail to get certified by API

the point is simple here:
api certification requires you to have lower zinc ppm

you claim to have higher zinc ppm than torco, which they already fail to get certification because of that reason (1 of it anyways)

so am i missing out something here?

Torco just tell you half of the story.. Otherwise how to sell their products at that price