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munak991
post May 23 2010, 10:58 PM

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U2410 and PX2370.

Both also very nice. U2410 expensive
PX2370 very yeng and elegant , but lack of IPS. and Malaysia is not available.

If i can get U2410 for RM 1200 ill go for U2410.
If PX2370 is available in malaysia i will consider.

Im a gamer. mostly view for movies and FPS game.

Guys what u think?

Budget RM1k
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post May 23 2010, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ May 23 2010, 11:58 PM)
U2410 and PX2370.

Both also very nice. U2410 expensive
PX2370 very yeng and elegant , but lack of IPS. and Malaysia is not available.

If i can get U2410 for RM 1200 ill go for U2410.
If PX2370 is available in malaysia i will consider.

Im a gamer. mostly view for movies and FPS game.

Guys what u think?

Budget RM1k
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Will you consider U2311H? Definately below 1K icon_idea.gif
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post May 23 2010, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Jern Tan @ May 23 2010, 11:15 PM)
Will you consider U2311H? Definately below 1K icon_idea.gif
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the 8ms wud giv a doubt to fps gamer... tongue.gif
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post May 23 2010, 11:32 PM

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To be honest, I'd take an IPS over a TN monitor over any day, here are my reasons:

1. Our internet is too slow to be too concerned for fragging rights unless of course, you got UniFi (and therefore you are exempted from this argument)

2. From out of 10 times that you were fragged, you cannot blame the input lag and the speed for your lack of skills in the game whatsoever, if those are really important to you, get a nice Sony Trinitron flat CRT or something. Best for gaming, nearly-zero input lag and fastest panel.

3. Picture quality - IPS wins for both pictures and most multimedia applications.

4. Picture quality 2 - IPS panels are generally higher resolution than their TN counterparts (not sure how true is it now), eg 8-bit U2311H panels vs 6-bit TN panels? or the 10-bit U2410 panel vs similar 24" 8-bit TN panels.

5. IPS has better greys and blacks for CCFL technology if compared to TN panels using CCFL backlit as well, so unless future IPS monitors are backlit, they might be losing out to the current TN market but the overall picture quality makes up for it..

PS: Point 5 aside, why are not manufacturers moving towards LED backlit for most IPS panels? Only one I've seen are the Apple monitors and yuck, they are glossy.
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post May 23 2010, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(captvizcenzo @ May 24 2010, 12:17 AM)
the 8ms wud giv a doubt to fps gamer...  tongue.gif
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These articles below might change your mind... tongue.gif

Response Times: How Fast Is Fast Enough?

LCD Response Time and Motion Blur


QUOTE(Top-Gun @ May 24 2010, 12:32 AM)
To be honest, I'd take an IPS over a TN monitor over any day, here are my reasons:
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Totally agree thumbup.gif

I was questioning myself is there a IPS + LED backlit + non glossy out there drool.gif

Apple too expensive sweat.gif

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post May 24 2010, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Jern Tan @ May 23 2010, 11:47 PM)
laugh.gif so now me myself dont hv to worry using my upcoming u2211h for gaming... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(captvizcenzo @ May 24 2010, 01:06 AM)
laugh.gif so now me myself dont hv to worry using my upcoming u2211h for gaming... tongue.gif
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I'm not a serious gamer, but do share with us your gaming experience with U2211H smile.gif

Just out of my curiosity, hope you don't mind tongue.gif U2211H cost RM721 for 5 year premium panel warranty, U2311H only cost RM711 for the same. Is there any specific reason you choose U2211H? The viewable size is 21.5" vs. 23" smile.gif

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post May 24 2010, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(Jern Tan @ May 24 2010, 01:04 AM)
I'm not a serious gamer, but do share with us your gaming experience with U2211H smile.gif
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for now till end of june, the most powerful setup i have is my fren's compaq laptop, equipped with hd4350 only blush.gif mind just this crap broken lcd acer 4530... tongue.gif so cant giv any comments on pure gaming experience... wait till july, this monitor might hv tons of review edi laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Top-Gun @ May 23 2010, 11:32 PM)
To be honest, I'd take an IPS over a TN monitor over any day, here are my reasons:
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4. Picture quality 2 - IPS panels are generally higher resolution than their TN counterparts (not sure how true is it now), eg 8-bit U2311H panels vs 6-bit TN panels? or the 10-bit U2410 panel vs similar 24" 8-bit TN panels.
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Resolution does not equal to colour depth.
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QUOTE(ice.keith @ May 22 2010, 02:05 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1431078&hl=

[WTS] Dell ST2210 21.5-inch LCD Monitor

3 years warranty, 1 bright pixel

Price:RM560

Warranty:3 years

Dealing method:COD

Location of seller:Sri Petaling

Contact method/details:Phone: 014 721 8168 / PM me

Age of item:2 weeks
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QUOTE(captvizcenzo @ May 22 2010, 02:08 PM)
why dont u call dell for 1-to-1 exchange?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 22 2010, 02:50 PM)
Non-premium panel only can 1 to 1 exchange with more than 5 bright pixels.
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Exactly. I can return the monitor for warranty but it is gonna be at least 2 weeks.
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post May 24 2010, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Top-Gun @ May 23 2010, 02:16 AM)
Ok, boils down to the price now.

Decided to sell both my 2007WFPs.

Is it wiser to get 1x U2410 or 2x U2311H?

I know that I am not a very serious gamer (input lag and slight ghosting is OKAY for me) but picture quality must be excellent for like webpage viewing, document (sharpness of text) and day-to-day activities.

Have been out of the IPS scene for quite some time so I would like to hear some thoughts from you guys. Whether this eIPS panel is worth the investment or is just crap anyway.
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u'll most probably regret it~ the reason for gamers still using CRTs is because of the responce time~ it's all about frame rate and excellent refresh with no lag~

QUOTE(everling @ May 23 2010, 01:55 PM)
The conclusion is that response times are actually far higher than what is published in the specs. And blur is not detectable in video but is in more artificial settings like scrolling web pages and gaming.
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agreed, definitely will bother u if it's high response time~
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post May 24 2010, 12:22 PM

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Any of u guys who purchased Dell UltraSharp U2211H or Dell UltraSharp U2311H receive your monitor yet?

Was wondering how is this monitor perform since don't have any review yet due to the monitor just release.

I might getting the Dell UltraSharp U2311H if it is good. biggrin.gif

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Hi guys,

I'm looking at the LG Premium LED monitor or should I go for Samsung LCD

both is 23"
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post May 24 2010, 12:41 PM

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So i still think of U2410 because its 1920 x 1200 reso.
Hate those 1080p resolution.

Waiting for my quote price from dell =(.

Ask from March until now cant find 1 which has cheaper price.

U2410 FTW my current monitor have 8ms respond time playing FPS is fine.
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QUOTE(PootieTang_85 @ May 23 2010, 01:48 PM)
uhuhu...U2311H got RM100 rebate under small business which make the final price is RM649...really want to buy it...
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post May 24 2010, 03:14 PM

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I've found a review for Dell UltraSharp U2311H

Hope it is useful for u guys.

http://www.htmlvalidator.com/CSEForum/view...c.php?f=6&t=921
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QUOTE(Fluxs @ May 24 2010, 03:14 PM)
I've found a review for Dell UltraSharp U2311H

Hope it is useful for u guys.

http://www.htmlvalidator.com/CSEForum/view...c.php?f=6&t=921
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Seen this from the few pages ago, wasn't really detail, just brief, perhaps those into graphics might take this, but gamer still want to wait for response and input lag... wait wait... wait... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(sexualpower @ May 24 2010, 12:44 PM)
u'll most probably regret it~ the reason for gamers still using CRTs is because of the responce time~ it's all about frame rate and excellent refresh with no lag~
agreed, definitely will bother u if it's high response time~
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ok the question,
how many GAMERS in this world still using the big heavy CRT nowaday ?
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post May 24 2010, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ May 23 2010, 01:58 PM)
anyone using Dell U2711?
Planning to get one.
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guys should i buy additional 2 years warranty or not? for Rm62. i mean for the dell u2311.

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