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Aveana
post May 11 2010, 07:15 AM


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Hi,

I would like to compare surgery charges among the hospitals, but the problem is when I called up the hospitals, they always ask to come for check-up first. The thing is, I could not go to all hospitals and having check-up only to get the quotations then to compare.

Thus, I hope some of you who had gone for the surgery will be able to provide me some information:

1. Which is the best hospital (or which hospital did you go) for Cataract Removal Surgery in Kuala Lumpur/Selangor (preferably with specialist)?

2. How much is the charges for surgery (quoted from the hospital)?


P/S: If you have info on charges for Malaysian Permanent Resident and Foreigner, kindly provide it too.

Thanks.


NEW UPDATE (MAY 11, 2010: 1645HRS)

I have been getting treatment at UKM Hospital and am well-informed of my eye condition - which is definitely cataract. I do not mind about the charges as long as it is done by recognized specialist and not over-charging me, of course. My next option is to do it overseas, however I really need to know if there are good eye specialist centre here in Kuala Lumpur/Selangor. Thanks.


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post May 11 2010, 07:28 AM


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1) Tun Hussein Onn National Eye Hospital in PJ or ISEC (international eye specialist center in midvalley).

2) Charges depends on intraocular lens package. Normal lens will cost u 3k+ per eye, toric lens (correct astig) up to 5k, multifocal lens up to 6.5k.

i agreed with them tat u should see them to get a proper quotation and proper check up. it may not be just cataract. a lot of times, it could be something else.

also a lot of counseling regarding type of lens and surgery involved, risk of complications...

and finally, i always believes in "good thing no cheap, cheap thing no good" ... haha
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post May 11 2010, 11:04 AM


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Tun Hussien Onn Eye hospital near the Armada Hotel is definitely a good choice!

My mum went there to have her eyes check-up and the doctor is really experience and well-mannered...however you might need to wait a while longer for your turn as the doctors tend to be late to work tongue.gif

The price is definitely cheaper by 35% - 40% if compare to outside eye specialist. Why pay more when you get a good service at THO eye hospital?

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post May 11 2010, 11:12 AM


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I think my grandma had the surgery in local government hospital..
we bought the lens ourselves, and the hospital did the surgery foc
lens was around.. 800 per piece? around 2k a pair..
Compared with the prices mentioned up there.. wow....

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post May 11 2010, 08:23 PM


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Thank you ngohieng, brian_3214 and Konichiwa.

I read in a different thread about Tun Hussien Onn Eye hospital and it sounds like a government hospital, with many patients in queue.

Does ISEC a favourite centre for eye surgery? What do you all think about this hospital?

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post May 12 2010, 08:12 AM


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ISEC is among the good one around. Most of the doctors are previously from government hospital. As usual, those good one will resign and join private sectors.

Government hosps are good if u r in good hands. But most of the time u cannot choose who operates on u. Waiting time is terrible. UMMC = 6 to 9 months. Most govrn hosp = 6 months. And of course the extremely crowded clinic.
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post May 12 2010, 04:03 PM


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hello Aveana, since you are getting the check up in HUKM. why not get it done in HUKM, At the moment HUKM is equipped with a very good biometry machine, a machine that calculates the power of you lens before deciding which power to put, It is important to to have the right calculation as wrong calculation will result to poor vision acuity after surgery. If you are concern about the quality and thrust worthy of the specialist in HUKM

ISEC is a great place to go as well, many doctors there and it comes with a premium surgery.

But if none of these suites you, you are looking at even more premium center and class one service and product, Prince Court Medical Center is the next best place to go, along Jalan Kia Peng.

In HUKM you can either look for Dr Then, Dr Mae Lyn.

In ISEC you can look for Dr Lim, Dr Chung Yee Foong, They are great doctors,

Or else go to PCMC, Prince Court Medical Center and look for either Dr Tan or Prof Muhayah,

Of course if you are looking for a great bargain, Then probably head to Klang town or Jalan Gasing. Ask the Klang people where is the best to operate cataract. they will be able to tell you.

As for the Charges you can refer to the above by NGOheing but when you need to choose a lens, please ask for Carl Zeiss Lens, they are the best you can get in Malaysia.

of course those charges by Ngo Heing are estimate, hospitals always slap patients with plenty of other charges, adding up how much i wont be able to tell you.




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post May 13 2010, 07:22 PM


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Hello ngohieng and sonyman,

THANKS A LOT for your information and explanation - really, really helpful. ISEC sounds good, will get in touch with them and see how it goes. wink.gif

As for HUKM and PCMC, they are hospitals and I just thought going to a centre which is specialize in eye care would be a good option.
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QUOTE(sonyman @ May 12 2010, 04:03 PM)
hello Aveana, since you are getting the check up in HUKM. why not get it done in HUKM, At the moment HUKM is equipped with a very good biometry machine, a machine that calculates the power of you lens before deciding which power to put, It is important to to have the right calculation as wrong calculation will result to poor vision acuity after surgery. If you are concern about the quality and thrust worthy of the specialist in HUKM

ISEC is a great place to go as well, many doctors there and it comes with a premium surgery.

But if none of these suites you, you are looking at even more premium center and class one service and product, Prince Court Medical Center is the next best place to go, along Jalan Kia Peng.

In HUKM you can either look for Dr Then, Dr Mae Lyn.

In ISEC you can look for Dr Lim, Dr Chung Yee Foong, They are great doctors,

Or else go to PCMC, Prince Court Medical Center and look for either Dr Tan or Prof Muhayah,

Of course if you are looking for a great bargain, Then probably head to Klang town or Jalan Gasing. Ask the Klang people where is the best to operate cataract. they will be able to tell you.

As for the Charges you can refer to the above by NGOheing but when you need to choose a lens, please ask for Carl Zeiss Lens, they are the best you can get in Malaysia.

of course those charges by Ngo Heing are estimate, hospitals always slap patients with plenty of other charges, adding up how much i wont be able to tell you.
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shocking.gif shakehead.gif wow bro...prince court is overkill....that 1 is for damn rich guy..... sweat.gif

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post Nov 3 2010, 03:51 PM


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Recently my mom went for checkup at Tun Hussein Onn Hospital. The quote is RM3.5 each eye (normal lens). Long queue to see the doc but surgery can be done on the doc's surgery day (once a week, not so long queue).

The thing is, I have a relative who did it at Pantai Hospital, and the bill was exactly RM3k. I thought Pantai is private and THONEH is semi-private, so why is THONEH more expensive? Quality-wise, both should be on par, yes?
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QUOTE(Aveana @ May 11 2010, 07:15 AM)
Hi,

I would like to compare surgery charges among the hospitals, but the problem is when I called up the hospitals, they always ask to come for check-up first. The thing is, I could not go to all hospitals and having check-up only to get the quotations then to compare.

Thus, I hope some of you who had gone for the surgery will be able to provide me some information:

1. Which is the best hospital (or which hospital did you go) for Cataract Removal Surgery in Kuala Lumpur/Selangor (preferably with specialist)?

2. How much is the charges for surgery (quoted from the hospital)?


P/S: If you have info on charges for Malaysian Permanent Resident and Foreigner, kindly provide it too.

Thanks.
NEW UPDATE (MAY 11, 2010: 1645HRS)

I have been getting treatment at UKM Hospital and am well-informed of my eye condition - which is definitely cataract. I do not mind about the charges as long as it is done by recognized specialist and not over-charging me, of course. My next option is to do it overseas, however I really need to know if there are good eye specialist centre here in Kuala Lumpur/Selangor. Thanks.

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you are having cataract? in both eyes?
say.... mind telling us how old are you? and your occupation?

For cataract surgery (eg; ECCE, SICS, PHACO), one need not go abroad, govt. hospitals have such procedure~....

although.... if you are.... you can try India, foreigners from US and European countries are coming in for various treatments here in India (eg; Medical Tourism is a booming business) not to mention direct flights via AirAsia are available.

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Nov 3 2010, 08:20 PM)
you are having cataract? in both eyes?
say.... mind telling us how old are you? and your occupation?

For cataract surgery (eg; ECCE, SICS, PHACO), one need not go abroad, govt. hospitals have such procedure~....

although.... if you are.... you can try India, foreigners from US and European countries are coming in for various treatments here in India (eg; Medical Tourism is a booming business) not to mention direct flights via AirAsia are available.
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If you are what?
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QUOTE(Marcian @ Nov 8 2010, 07:56 AM)
If you are what?
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What I meant was;

If he is - going abroad.
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Nov 8 2010, 05:58 PM)
What I meant was;

If he is - going abroad.
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If he is what? Having cataracts? No offense... I'm just trying to find out all options... here it is about RM3k each eye with normal CZ lens. How about India? Lens + surgery + airfare.

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QUOTE(Marcian @ Nov 9 2010, 07:52 AM)
If he is what?  Having cataracts?  No offense... I'm just trying to find out all options... here it is about RM3k each eye with normal CZ lens.  How about India?  Lens + surgery + airfare.
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Here is what I meant, again:

1. He already said that he is going to have his cataract treated here in Malaysia and at the same time contemplating on having it abroad.
2. Then I said "...if you are..." as in if he is going to have the treatment abroad....

Do read the above posts again.

India, the cost will definitely be cheaper than that of Malaysia, for one eye around Rs 20,000 (around RM1.5K) per eye. There are hospitals that offer even cheaper than that here. The price may vary, but one thing for sure is that it will be cheaper than Malaysian pvt hospitals.

If you are thinking of coming here (India), you should be well prepared and do some research about the options available. (Malaysians will need VISA to enter India)

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Nov 9 2010, 08:19 AM)
Here is what I meant, again:

1. He already said that he is going to have his cataract treated here in Malaysia and at the same time contemplating on having it abroad.
2. Then I said "...if you are..." as in if he is going to have the treatment abroad....

Do read the above posts again.

India, the cost will definitely be cheaper than that of Malaysia, for one eye around Rs 20,000 (around RM1.5K) per eye. There are hospitals that offer even cheaper than that here. The price may vary, but one thing for sure is that it will be cheaper than Malaysian pvt hospitals.

If you are thinking of coming here (India), you should be well prepared and do some research about the options available. (Malaysians will need VISA to enter India)
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What about board and lodging? You can't fly back immediately after the operation. Overall cost may not be much cheaper.
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QUOTE(TinyPumpkin @ Nov 10 2010, 03:08 PM)
What about board and lodging?  You can't fly back immediately after the operation.  Overall cost may not be much cheaper.
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Cataract surgery is a relatively simple operation and can be done quickly. One can have the surgery and immediately on the same day go back to Malaysia.
Post-operative follow-ups can be done in Malaysian govt. hospitals if one wish.

For the details of 'health tourism' - you will need to find the contact person in Malaysia that can arrange for it.

Read the following article from 'The Week' magazine (Date - November 2010):
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and for the best hospital for eye treatments in India (2010 ranking):

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I don't think the surgery is very expensive. My Mom did her surgery at Lam Wah Ee Hospital years ago. Cost her about RM2000 but don't know how much it costs now.
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My dad did the surgery at HUKM and we bought the lens at RM650.00 (one side). The surgery was free or need to pay some amount. I forgot. But not so expensive. Everything was under RM800 i guess.
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QUOTE(cyndelle @ Nov 17 2010, 11:02 AM)
My dad did the surgery at HUKM and we bought the lens at RM650.00 (one side). The surgery was free or need to pay some amount. I forgot. But not so expensive. Everything was under RM800 i guess.
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Indeed it will be cheaper if the surgery is done in govt. hospitals. I was referring to private hospitals.
Here is something about medical tourism in India:


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Hi all,

My mom has cataract at both eyes and need to go for surgery. She went to see an eye specialist and she is allergic to the eye drops that is used to dilate her eye. The Dr has tried a few eye drops, but all of it she has allergic reactions.
Hence, we are thinking of seeking a 2nd opinion from a Dr in Tun Hussein Onn Eye Specialist. Can we choose which Dr to see in this hospital? Any of you had a good experience with the Dr in this hospital, and what's the Dr's name?

Thanks alot.
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"Phaco" procedure is quick, multifocal so no need for reading glasses, less pain than dental work. Next morning can see fine already, no discomfort during recovery.

If you are willing to consider popular private clinic, Optimax in Tmn Tun is excellent. Plenty of testimonials on LYN and in office.

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Like to have feedback from those who have cataract surgery on :
* lens of which brand is better
* the do's and dont's
* whether it fully restores your eye sight
* cost
* those with high short sightness or glaucoma
* any regret ?

Thanks.


Added on August 24, 2011, 7:10 pmJust sharing my recent cataract surgery operation.

Because of my high myopia, can't get the higher grade lens, nor Toric. They need to be custom made. Multifocal is not recommended for me due to the nature of retina. So got the normal lens. Pity !

Operation went well. No pain. Only concern was that night when I removed the pad to put in the eye drops, the vison was cloudy. Thought I should be able to see clear vision then. Problem was due to the medication used in the surgery and the eye needed time to recover. So for the first timer, note this and don't worry.

Next day, when the eye pad was removed, clear, bright and bluer vision ! Overall, though not perfect, the vision now is better than before the surgery. Problem in close vision and also some headache now and then. Guess that is the brain trying to get used to the 2 different visions from the 2 eyes.

Now on anti-imflammatory eye drops for about a month.

Can't believe that now I have a piece of plastic in my eye ! No floater etc. Just some glaring light if the light source is from the side. Image from the other eye now looks cloudier and more yellowish than the operated eye.

Good luck to those going for the surgery !

P/S Try this simple test to see if you have cataract (warning - this is NOT a medical test !). With a piece of white papaer infront of you, separate your 2 eyes using your hand on the nose. See the paper using your left eye, then right eye. Repeat a few times. Does the paper look yellowish ? If it does, likely that you have cataract.


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I'm looking for PRIVATE eye specialist clinics/hospitals that is known for cataract operations.

My dad recently did one eye at Dr Kok (Jalan Gasing - he has a brother in Klang). Cheap, yes definitely cheaper than outside, long queue as well. But he is very dissatisfied with the doctor and staffs as they don't have much time to communicate with the patients, hence lack of customer service, and so, he is looking for other alternatives.

Other than Tun Hussein Onn, what other private clinics/hospitals for cataract surgery are recommended? And also the doctor's name please. Also rough estimate of the price they charge as well. Thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Sep 26 2011, 08:07 PM)
I'm looking for PRIVATE eye specialist clinics/hospitals that is known for cataract operations.

My dad recently did one eye at Dr Kok (Jalan Gasing - he has a brother in Klang). Cheap, yes definitely cheaper than outside, long queue as well. But he is very dissatisfied with the doctor and staffs as they don't have much time to communicate with the patients, hence lack of customer service, and so, he is looking for other alternatives.

Other than Tun Hussein Onn, what other private clinics/hospitals for cataract surgery are recommended? And also the doctor's name please. Also rough estimate of the price they charge as well. Thanks smile.gif
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My mom did it at GH. Reading tis thread, I don't understand y go to private while GH can do same job at lower cost?

My father in-law also scheduled to do his at GH, after consulted at private specialist. Reason? Why pay more for the same thing?
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Sep 26 2011, 08:07 PM)
I'm looking for PRIVATE eye specialist clinics/hospitals that is known for cataract operations.

My dad recently did one eye at Dr Kok (Jalan Gasing - he has a brother in Klang). Cheap, yes definitely cheaper than outside, long queue as well. But he is very dissatisfied with the doctor and staffs as they don't have much time to communicate with the patients, hence lack of customer service, and so, he is looking for other alternatives.

Other than Tun Hussein Onn, what other private clinics/hospitals for cataract surgery are recommended? And also the doctor's name please. Also rough estimate of the price they charge as well. Thanks smile.gif
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You can try Advance Vision at Damansara Uptown, managed and owned by Dr. Yeoh.
One price RM2,200 per eye for cataract, no hidden charge and extra cost on the follow up, which is next day, one week and one month after the operation/previous follow up.
RM80 for first time inspection and consultation.

That area quite hard to get parking, just go early to prevent long waiting queue too in the centre.
The staffs are friendly and helpful. Dr. Yeoh is funny, able to speak in Mandarin, Cantonese and English.

What determine the operation cost is the technology and the lens used.
Advance Vision is using Phacoemulsification and AMO (Abbott Medical Optics) lens from US which is good according to my friend whose used to work in THONEH.
With Phacoemulsification the wound is much smaller, thus recovery is quicker and the chance of infection is lower.

Overall, very good service. thumbup.gif

If you need more details, just Google it or visit theirs website. smile.gif
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QUOTE(scoop7 @ Sep 27 2011, 01:59 AM)
My mom did it at GH. Reading tis thread, I don't understand y go to private while GH can do same job at lower cost?

My father in-law also scheduled to do his at GH, after consulted at private specialist. Reason? Why pay more for the same thing?
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Other than the technology and lens used mentioned by Lilliput, one can also schedule the surgery as early as same day or next day as compare to long waiting list in GH.
Although time is money, if one can afford then shouldn't be a problem. smile.gif

Not sure how true is that, heard from others.
Sometimes the surgery might be done by trainee or someone inexperienced in some hospitals.
Prior to surgery, they need to read the power of patient's eyesight too.
Inaccuracy of reading the power, might contribute to variation of results.
One may need to depends on glasses for theirs daily tasks for better vision after the surgery. sweat.gif

As a conclusion, just make sure someone is experienced, certified and qualified to do the surgery for you.
No joke/risk for your eyes. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(scoop7 @ Sep 27 2011, 12:59 AM)
My mom did it at GH. Reading tis thread, I don't understand y go to private while GH can do same job at lower cost?

My father in-law also scheduled to do his at GH, after consulted at private specialist. Reason? Why pay more for the same thing?
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GH will put you on a long waiting list. As for my dad who is 70+, he would prefer to be serviced and get good service. And he's willing to pay higher for better service.

He can always go back to the Dr Kok which charge cheaper price than other private hospitals/clinics but at the end of the day, he's not satisfied with the service he get. There are different priorities in every patient. It can be the cost of surgery, service of staff and doctors, hospital/clinic environment, convenience, or time. If you have time and is looking for cheaper service, then by all means, visit the GH. smile.gif

QUOTE(Lilliput @ Sep 27 2011, 07:03 AM)
You can try Advance Vision at Damansara Uptown, managed and owned by Dr. Yeoh.
One price RM2,200 per eye for cataract, no hidden charge and extra cost on the follow up, which is next day, one week and one month after the operation/previous follow up.
RM80 for first time inspection and consultation.

That area quite hard to get parking, just go early to prevent long waiting queue too in the centre.
The staffs are friendly and helpful. Dr. Yeoh is funny, able to speak in Mandarin, Cantonese and English.

What determine the operation cost is the technology and the lens used.
Advance Vision is using Phacoemulsification and AMO (Abbott Medical Optics) lens from US which is good according to my friend whose used to work in THONEH.
With Phacoemulsification the wound is much smaller, thus recovery is quicker and the chance of infection is lower.

Overall, very good service. thumbup.gif

If you need more details, just Google it or visit theirs website.  smile.gif
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Thanks! I'll dig up some info on it. Appreciate it. smile.gif
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how to seek treatment from government hospital? do we need any recommendation letter from general pratitioner / eye specialist or just walk in?

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Hi folks, I would like to find out how does No-Blade cataract surgery provided by Vista different from a normal cataract surgery (e.g. from ISEC or Advance Vision)?

My dad just underwent cataract surgery in Vista which costed him about 8k per eye. But, when I survey more options like in ISEC, I found out that normal cataract surgery only cost 2-4K per eye.

Cheers!
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I don't think there is any real difference in terms of clinical and visual outcomes after No-Blade cataract surgery versus normal cataract surgery. More important would be the experience and ability of the surgeon.

http://www.vision-and-eye-health.com

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post Dec 19 2013, 09:19 PM


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QUOTE(scoop7 @ Sep 27 2011, 12:59 AM)
My mom did it at GH. Reading tis thread, I don't understand y go to private while GH can do same job at lower cost?

My father in-law also scheduled to do his at GH, after consulted at private specialist. Reason? Why pay more for the same thing?
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Wat is the charges ??

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post Dec 20 2013, 11:19 AM


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QUOTE(feralee @ Dec 19 2013, 09:19 PM)
Wat is the charges ??
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we paid less than RM900 for each eye, majority goto lens cost
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post Apr 8 2014, 10:07 AM


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QUOTE(scoop7 @ Dec 20 2013, 11:19 AM)
we paid less than RM900 for each eye, majority goto lens cost
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do they wait long to hv the surgery?
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post Apr 8 2014, 06:21 PM


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QUOTE(zamnie @ Apr 8 2014, 10:07 AM)
do they wait long to hv the surgery?
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zamnie not long.. just 2-3 weeks after appointment fixed
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