UPDATE: 13/5/2010

Picture worth a thousand words:








Updates:

30/5/2010

I stopped ON Whey Protein due to it's halalness doubt (still got half untouched)
I changed to Ultimate Nutrition Prostar Whey Protein

Also stopped Lipo6 due to want to make it natural way (still got half untouched)



What's my supplement:

New: Ultimate Nutrition Prostar Whey Protein (Choc Mint)

Old: Lipo6 + Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein (Mocha)

How do I consume it?

Non-Workout Day
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lipo6 before breakfast
lipo6 before lunch
whey protein after office hour
whey protein before bed

Workout Day
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lipo6 before breakfast
lipo6 before lunch
whey protein before cardio (after 30 mins cardio, then only do workout)
whey protein after workout (immediately)


When do I scale my weight?
Every day, immediately after wake up.
Without drinking or eating anything.
So, this is pretty accurate for the whole period.
I will scale my weight several times in the morning, and choose the lowest weight and bodyfat recorded for that day.

How long I've been to gym?
It's been around 2 month, little to moderate effort only



Below is my daily stat. I'll try my best to update it everyday:


Day 0: 11/5/2010
(Non-workout Day)

This is the day BEFORE I took any supplement

Height: 163cm
Weight: 61.5kg (normally ranging from 61.5kg to 63.0kg)
Bodyfat: 20.9% (normally ranging from 19.9% to 21.0%)

Day 1: 12/5/2010
(Workout day)

Weight: 60.8kg
Bodyfat: 20.3%

This is Day 1 AFTER consuming Lipo6 and Whey Protein.


Day 2 Stat: 13/5/2010
(Non-workout Day)

Weight: 60.3kg
Bodyfat: 19.4%


Day 3 Stat: 14/5/2010
(Non-workout Day)

Weight: 61.0kg
Bodyfat: 19.5%

Day 4 Stat: 15/5/2010
(Workout Day)

Weight: 60.6kg
Bodyfat: 19.7%


Day 5 Stat: 16/5/2010
(Non-workout Day)

Weight: 60.9kg
Bodyfat: 22.4%

(Yesterday, I forgot to eat Lipo6 in the afternoon. Did not drink any protein. Also forgot)


20/5/2010
Weight: 60.2
Bodyfat: 19.1%

23/5/2010
Weight: 60.8kg
Bodyfat: 19.2%

30/5/2010
Weight:60.6kg
Bodyfat: 19.4%

Note: For original posting, read below:

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Hi all,

I'm re-starting my gym about 2 months ago.
I'm considering myself buying Lipo6 to burn fat.

However, kinda confused now which combo is the best?
I'm afraid if I took Lipo6 alone, my muscle will also gone.

I don't want that to happen. Therefore, I guess that whey protein is needed.

Anybody can suggest?

Thanks.

This post has been edited by joxen: May 30 2010, 09:01 AM

hahaha...
there is no combo or watsoever.
fat burners are fat burners.
they are not muscle burners. =.=

Yeah, true...
Just wanna get some suggestion..

Which one is good...

: )

which one?
u asking which fat burner?
hmmm... lipo6, hydroxycut, animal cut.
i think animal cut currently has a better review compared to others.
aint too sure, got to ask those that tried it.

Actually, I'm asking for combo.

Lipo6 + (product), as I know taking fat burner only won't do any good.
Must get some protein also..

: )

fat burner? = lipo6, lipo6x, lipo6 black, Ergolean AMP2, Hidroxycut, Animal Cut, MHP cut, Muscletetek cut.

At the same time, of coure you have to take your whey .

I read a lot about whey.. is Nitro good? or ON?
Can't decide which one is better...

afaik, whey protein is whey protein, doesnt really matter what brand you take. Should be more concerned whether you're getting enough protein per day for optimum growth. As for fat burners I cant really help you there . Maybe wait for the regulars to reply..

Just get your whey and post a picture of yourself. Most skinny fat people are too concerned with stupid fat burners.

I'm 163cm with 63kg...
Consider fat loh...

: )

That's why wanna combine both fat burner + whey protein..

http://www.youtube.com/NalewanyjFitness#p/u/8/uZ6E0Z4pEoI

here's a link you can refer to. stolen from one of darkie's posts

you are not fat =_=
if you tell me you are >70kg, yea u r fat
instead of just focusing on supplement, go for cardio, HIIT etc
and cut the carbo out of ur diet

And my current body fat percentage ranging from 19.9 to 21.0
I wanna get below 10%..

: )

zzzz.... if u r a twig, and below 10%, is there any use?

Reminds me of the guy with the camera,wanna look like him???

Stay on whey protein throughout your workouts, brand doesn't matter as long as you can afford it.

I've seen good results from Lipo6 and lipo 6 black as fat burners.
Combine fat burner + whey for a while till you reach desired weight/fat percentage. Then throw in creatine and build up.

If you insist on going below 10% fat at your current state, you are going to look like a twig with 6 pack yes, but the overall picture will look horrible.
(you need to post a picture of urself currently to be sure, but judging from your height and weight, generally this would be true)

Lol. Different people benefit from different fat burners, depends on individuals. Go ahead if you wanna be skin and bones. If not, just get whey, sufficient protein and train hard.

lol, u wanna compete? why u want to get below 10%?

exactly... no point getting below 10% if u r skinny.
if u have the mass, then by all means, do as u please.
but u may not have enough mass to really cut down ur size.
why dont u post a pic so that we could see if u should cut or bulk up. =.=

picture speaks a thousand words

Ok, gotten Lipo6 + Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein.
Start consuming ON last night before bed (Yes, it is wrong. I just wanna taste it).

Lipo6 consumed this morning after woke up.

This morning stats, 7.00am:

Weight: 61kg++
Bodyfat: 19.6%++

Will keep on posting...

whats your routine?

and picture please.

whey prebed is not wrong...if u afford to take it at least 2 times daily, you should include prebed...

How do u measure ur bodyfat?
How old r u?

i read an article from bb.com (actually by ON) saying that whey is a fast acting/ absorbing protein, therefore if consumed pre-bed, it wont b as useful as if u take casein, which is a slow absorbing protein. therefore if u consume whey prebed, most likely ur body is absorbing less protein since it's beginning to slow down. to me it's best taken pre and post work out. and it wont harm to take early in the morning as well.

I thought can only use it before and after workout (30 mins)...
So, when is the BEST time to consume whey protein?
Suggestion pls..

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Added on May 11, 2010, 10:36 amI bought a scale in Tesco around RM69++..
I'm 30..

This post has been edited by joxen: May 11 2010, 10:36 AM

my suggestions based on the fact that, me myself used to consume whey...in the morning and afternoon, i took solid food and consume protein source from them...eggs, chickens, meat and so on...i used to take 2 times daily, post workout and pre-bed...i don't take casein because of its price...with tight budget, i've to carefully make sure to make every scoops of it, is worthy...afaik, another way to consume protein (if u were to take 2 times daily) is post-workout, and in the middle your sleep time...you sleep @ 11 PM, try to get up @ 3 AM and sip your whey...i got this also from bb.com...cause even whey is a fast absorbing, it is still useful when consume pre-bed, which is better than none...

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Added on May 11, 2010, 10:49 ambro, my suggestions is, don't overlook things...post-workout is a must, the rest i think u can take it anytime...as long as u do count your protein intake...try to get them from solid foods as well...


This post has been edited by diablokun: May 11 2010, 10:49 AM

Use nutritiondata.com to analyse your daily diet, find-out how much protein, carbo n fat ur consuming. Then adjust ur diet accordingly, eg. more eggs, less rice, less fried food, more plain water, less soft drinks.

I take my protein shake once in the morning, n again before sleep.

Ok, if I took whey protein after workout and before sleep, is it safe if i take Lipo 6 early in the morning and during afternoon?

thanks.

It is safe. Take it as instructed on the label

Hi bro..
i think if u just wanna burn fat..
lipo 6 works like wonders..
lol..
my friends all shocked see im different in just one month..
but everyday jogging and gym..
so thats why its quick..
talk about eat.. i eat all the fast food..
but during lunch time.. dinner eat fruits and bread n stuff like that..

bro,
i wanna lose fat and at the same time bulking up..
not too bulky laa.. just nice..


nowadays, i rarely eat fast food...
but not so healthy... but rice half plate for sure..
the rest vege + fish or chicken

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Added on May 11, 2010, 11:18 pmI'm planning to do this way:

Non-Workout Day
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lipo6 before breakfast
lipo6 before lunch
whey protein after office hour
whey protein before bed

Workout Day
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lipo6 before breakfast
lipo6 before lunch
whey protein after workout (immediately)
whey protein before bed
(or should i replace it before workout?)

What do you guys think?



This post has been edited by joxen: May 11 2010, 11:18 PM

Your gonna be taking lipo6 2 caps and 2 caps?

4 caps a day is crazy unless stated in the instructions label imo. Unless it's Lipo Black. Just take 2 before breakfast, wait half hour and eat. Or eat preworkout, wait 2 hours then pop them and train.

Today's stat: 12/5/2010

After 1 day of Lipo6 and Optimum Nutrition 100% Gold Standard Whey Protein

Height: 163cm
Weight: 60.8kg
Bodyfat: 20.3%

Consuming my second day....
Today will be my workout day...

dont expect to see results in such a short period of time.. our body content fluctuates daily(water,digested/undigested food.. etc)

weight yourself after 2 weeks to get a clearer picture

can you show the pics of your progress so the pros here can guide you.

Bro, u into bodybuilding? maybe u put in ur pix?

wow, after 1 day, BF% +1?

I m using Lipo-6 ATM (the classic, not the hitam or x) The recommended dosage is 4 caps a day but starting with 2 slowly proceed to 4.

I pop 2 30mins prior to my breakfast (preworkout meal 0630) then 2 again before lunch (1230)

LOL!

For me, it seems to work better if i took all 4 pills seperately, as in 1+1+1+1. instead of 2+2. give it a try, see got diff or not
Thats if i take up to 4. most days i only take 2 pills.
but since you're much bigger than me, you can take 4, no prob.

Wats ur timing for 1's ?

Adui Neek, compare to u i m small la ><

Timing usually not set. its 1 when i wake up, and last one at 6 pm, and the other 2 somewhere in between equally (if take 4)

bro, my weight is only probably 70% of u ler. i'm a small fry next to u man

We all have bigorexia la. No one is immune.

Day 2 Stat: 13/5/2010

Height: 163cm
Weight: 60.3kg
Bodyfat: 19.4%

I took 1 Lipo6 in the morning and 1 more Lipo6 at 2pm. So busy till forgot to eat it.
As this is my workout day, drink 200ml of protein before cardio.
Doing cardio for around 25mins

Then proceed to workout
Drink another 200ml protein immediately after 1hour workout.

seems to me like this thread is becoming more of a journal. maybe start one yourself?

http://forum.lowyat.net/MemberWorkoutJournals

Yeah, initially it started as a question.
Then, proceed to more like a journal.

Mod, please move to the right channel.

TQ.

: )

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Added on May 14, 2010, 7:02 amGuys,

Lipo6 DO HAVE side effects...
I feel the dizziness...
Bloating... and the feel like vomiting....

Make sure, just after 30 mins consuming, take some food...
If not, you will collapse...



This post has been edited by joxen: May 14 2010, 07:02 AM

You're not supposed to take it without food, dude.

can't we just take it without food and workout in the morning ?

If you can handle it, go ahead...
I just can't have it without food, at least 30 minutes after consume..

Took my fist Lipo 6 this morning .. after 20 mins I ate Papa Roti.
Stomach upset during workout after 1 hour later.

I do smell that there was a lot of caffeine smell when I urine.

My first 2 days of Lipo6 gave me dizzinies...
But only mild dizziness that is under control..

Make sure your first 2 days, only consume maximum 2 lipo - 1 morning, 1 afternoon
Your body was trying to adapt it..

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Added on May 18, 2010, 11:51 pmMissed 2 day oredi..

Today

Weight: 60.2
BF: 19.2%



This post has been edited by joxen: May 18 2010, 11:51 PM

lol dude, you're exactly my height and your physique looks very similar to mine and you're only 60+kg!? i'm at 80+ nearing 90 >_< i've got pretty big thighs though.

Good job there mate! Keep it up! You can!!!

what did yoh use to measure yoh bodeh fat dawg?

bf estimation or machine?

Oh, yeah, same physique?
Previously, I was nearing 70kg..

Dude, let's start the ball rolling...
stop talking and complaining...
let's workout!

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Added on May 30, 2010, 8:55 amA scale bought at Tesco... including bodyfat %

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Added on May 30, 2010, 8:56 amMachine...

This post has been edited by joxen: May 30 2010, 08:56 AM

how much for that scale? im looking for one man

If i'm not mistaken, around RM69 only...
If can't find in Tesco, look at Giant..

hell yeah homey, thanks for info dawg

mind to post the machine pic to share?