Unc WW,
Check email, urgent & important msg.

Dear Cergau,

Has done as requested and hope for the best.........as the best for most of us is to pray that the Fed Guys will do their parts....

and hope that God make those who create so much pain in us to repent.

Dear all,

Well done, cergau, WW and many others in this forum, for all you have done trying to save the industry. Our salute to you.

Meanwhile, the bird’s nest industry of Malaysia is facing an impending would be disaster or probably an onslaught greatest ever given by the PERHILITAN now. This is going to affect extreme adversely on everybody in the industry with absolutely no one is spared if timely remedial steps is not innovated to counter. Of course, certain quarter from the industry ought to be held responsible for such negligence and insensitive and incompetency later. They voluntarily and misleadingly claimed to be the guard dogs for the industry but insteads made the industry to become underdog. But we have no time on this for the moment. The FEDERATION OF ASSOCIATIONS which has been claiming to represent all in the industry with or without official sanction or recognition from all in the industry, is now like ants on the hot pan calling for EGM held tomorrow, 11.05.10 @ 3pm at Sunway. It seems they are panic now and are running out of ideas. They are very desperate and are appealing openly through West Wing in this forum for positive ideas or solutions from all.

We would also appeal to all in this forum to spread the message across to alert all in the industry to help in by sharing in your brain power for positive solutions or ideas as to how to tackle the situation. Please either post your suggestion here or pm to me so your suggestions could be conveyed to the FED ASSO or those involved as soon as possible. It doesn’t matter now whether you disagree with or disrespect them. We are all on the same boat and the difference is they are the minority and are in the front playing with match sticks and we are at behind. We have to help saving them before we are saved too. They are also another main prong yet to start while the others are already silently working on it for the past weeks.

For your info, DL and his taskforce have been dug out from their graves of retirement and they have been closely monitoring the situation for the past weeks. DL is advising all in the industry and all his old comrades to be on the full alert and on the standby to cooperate again in unity throughout the country like before for an eventual national protest under citizen’s rights vested under the CONSTITUTION against the PERHILITAN if situation is unavoidable and not settled amicably by the perpetrator, the PERHILITAN to withdraw its nonsensical Bill voluntarily. We do know of their hidden evil agenda all this while. We do not want any present or future interference into the bird’s nest industry by the PERHILITAN at all under whatsoever pretext for this industry is never under their jurisdiction for this is cultivated house swiftlet nest from privately owned sanctuary and NOT those found in the natural caves on govt land. It is definitely defeating the purpose and pulling the legs on our PM’s 1MALAYSIA policy in which our PM has been encouraging to groom and to tap the potential of the bird’s nest industry to its fullest to bring in foreign revenue and wealth to this country and its people. What is the use of the special allocation of RM600 million funds granted by the PM the moment he took over office to support the growth of the 3 HIGH VALUED INDUSTRIES of the bird’s nest, the arowana fish and the sea weeds? The way the PERHILITAN is fooling around, it is definitely belittling the PM and making it not only a national MOCKERY but also an international one on our PM’s image.

No wonder, the PERHILITAN is viewed as the most notorious govt department. If not, how come a certain executive approving power has been transferred from the DIRECTOR GENERAL to the Minister concerned announced last month? This is something really unthinkable. That clearly indicates that not one senior PENGARAH in the department can be trustable. Normally, the DG or KP can be interdicted or suspended under the name of going holidays pending investigation and another senior be appointed to be acting DG to take over. This must be a very serious case that warrants such action.

Nonetheless, we wish to remind the PERHILITAN department that it is better to stop it. We are not to negotiate with you for the lesser. We are telling you to completely stop the nonsense before too late. Please be reminded that you are our civil servants to serve the people with salary paid from the people unless you are an organized crime syndicate with hidden agenda to prey on the people.

I do agree with Lukas that evil is always at work to takeover anything that have $$$$$$$ sign.

When i was working before in a bumi company before, my dept which was in the marketing always in the cooking pressure and many dept always find fault in our dept. We may also thought was it the race issue or the adaptation to modern thinking out of the box. In just a year time, the new establish marketing dept was totally destroy by these evils who planted mines and bomb in our dept. Alot of Sabotage was carried out on individual and many good fresh employee were sad to leave this marketing dept. One by one was targeted and taken out like a sniper. Evil brewed and contagious , it creeps into these new employees which were first hired to change the branding of the company.

Ever wonder where is the place where cash fund flow out easily in a company? It;s the marketing dept. This is the place where evil want to take over and run their operation.

Cergau,

We would like to highlight some inputs for the FEDERATION OF THE ASSOCIATIONS the following important facts and proposals to be considered and deliberated in their EGM;-

1) The BH operation in Malaysia is generally operated by individual having only one floor, 2 floors or 3 floors of a unit of building. And this is a passive type of investment by individual citizen. There is no guarantee for immediate success. This is analogical to the operation of the rubber or oil palm small holders with only an acre or two and they also pray to the god for mercy at times.

2) The number of BHs in the whole of Malaysia could by now already reached 100,000 units. If you think that the number is very big, and then compares it with the estate small holders, the coffee shops, the sundries shops, hawkers etc which could be a lot more than the BHs amounting to at least few hundred thousand if not more than a million each. Yet all these coffee shops, sundries shops and hawkers are under the Local council’s jurisdiction with only one simple and hassle free license.

3) Since the inauguration of this modernized bird’s house industry in Malaysia more than 10 years ago till today, the few states that issued premise license to the BHs are Kelantan, Penang, Perak, Pahang, etc. These licenses are all issued under PETTY TRADES AND COTTAGE INDUSTRIES under the Local councils with no problem and hassle free for many years. Besides this, there isn’t the involvement of any other department nor their licenses required. So far, everything is fine and under well control of the Local Councils.

4) Among these existing 100,000 BHs, more than 98% belongs to private individual passive investors. They are just like the coffee shops, sundries shops and hawkers found everywhere. Is there a NATIONAL GUIDESLINES or 1GP governing them? If not, then, why do we want a 1GP for the individually owned BHs?

5) Only less than 2% of the bird’s nest operation in the case of ECOPARKs is of large commercial scale operation like the big housing developments, the multibillion supermarkets, and the giant sized estates with thousands to million acres like SIME DARBY, IOI etc and the multimillion livestock farming. These super large sized investments may warrant and justify for a comprehensive guidelines to govern.

6) If this is the vision of our PM to encourage the fast growth of this industry so to tap its potential to compete with our neighbouring countries for the foreign revenue and wealth for this country and its people, why do we want 1GP acting like many huddles placing in front of these small individual investors? How are we in Malaysia to compete with our neighbouring countries counterparts who do not have any restrictions or hurdles from their Govt?

7) What is that so proud wanting to declare Malaysia as the world first country in the world to have 1GP for its bird’s nest industry? In actual fact, this is a self imposed handicap crippling ourselves. No wise leader would do that. Instead, the Govt should take off as many bureaucratic procedures as possible to let the industry move faster to outrun neighbouring countries to compete for the much needed hot money to aid our ailing internal economy. Instead of allocating RM600million to promote the 3 HIGH VALUED INDUSTRIES, that is RM200million each for the bird's nest industry, arowana farming and the sea weed culture, the Govt might as well withdraw the RM200million for the bird's nest industry and to give incentives such as pioneer status, exemption of yearly assesment, license fee and quit rent etc up to 5 to 10 years for all BH operaton.

8) Therefore, the best solution to achieve our PM’s vision is to just treat this industry as a normal industry to let it enjoy the same as other general trades under the Local Council of needing only one straight forward Lesen Premis for the BH operation without any hassle.

9) As to the recent PERHILITAN new Bill issue, a panel of professional experienced constitutional lawyers should be engaged to study the matter. Don’t get free or semi professionals or none constitutional lawyers to do it. We want only the best specialists to help in. If necessary, a court action can be considered.

10) We must insist complete hands off from the PERHILITAN on this industry with no compromise on whatsoever. Same time, please look into the alleged illegitimate impose of Exit Tax on nests exported that the PERHILITAN has been secretly and low profile collecting at the exit points since 2007 victimizing and terrorizing mainly out-going foreign tourists. Many foreigners were forced to pay bribe in order to be able to catch the plane. It is tarnishing Malaysia’s good image. Please bear in mind that, the PERHILITAN’s jurisdiction is only confined to the wild swiftlet nest from the natural caves on govt land. They may collect only certain fee on the wild nests harvested right at the spot inside the cave before the nests shifted out. Had they really have the jurisdiction, they need not to do it quietly and secretly. They are exploiting the grey area in the ACTS.

11) Please also be alerted that the PERHILITAN isn’t a department that have the jurisdiction to collect taxes on behalf of the Govt. Under the CONSTITUTIONS OF MALAYSIA the only departments specially assigned to collect taxes and revenue are the Inland Revenue Department and the Custom and Excise under the Ministry of Finance. However, the Ministry of Finance is encouraging the export of bird’s nest in exchange of foreign revenue, therefore, there is zero tax or duty for all nests exported. The collection of EXIT TAX on the bird’s nest by the PERHILITAN is thus illegal and illegitimate. Please investigate into this to confirm.

12) To form a task force comprised of professionals and volunteers to collect info from owners of malpractices committed on the industry by the various departments and to investigate.

13) To consider calling for a national signature campaign from all in the industry if situation warrants.

Thanks for the sharing info.

I would like to sign in the national signature campaign.

I will try to get some info about this PERHILITAN and if have it, will share with all.

Very logic and common sense articles . Good question put up as well. We seriouly need to look back and pull the bull by the horn.

Some information from the news.
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Skim penipuan pelaburan dibongkar

Oleh MOHD. FIRDAUS ISMAIL
pengarang@utusan.com.my

KUALA LUMPUR 10 Mei - Penipuan membabitkan skim pelaburan burung layang-layang yang mencecah nilai RM400,000 terbongkar selepas Suruhanjaya Syarikat Malaysia (SSM) melakukan serbuan ke atas premis Aeroswift Consultancy Sdn. Bhd. yang berpangkalan di Kulim, Kedah.

Menurut kenyataan SSM, modus operandi syarikat tersebut ialah menawarkan penjualan lot pelaburan rumah burung layang-layang kepada orang awam tetapi hak pengurusan dipegang syarikat.

"Syarikat ini menjanjikan pulangan kepada peserta dengan pembahagian keuntungan mengikut nisbah 80:20.

"Peserta skim berkenaan juga diyakinkan dengan nilai penjualan kasar sarang burung yang kononnya boleh mencecah nilai RM120,000 sebulan sekiranya pelaburan maksimum dilakukan," kata kenyataan itu yang dikeluarkan di sini hari ini.

Menurut kenyataan itu, siasatan kes tersebut dibuat mengikut peruntukan Seksyen 84(1) dan Seksyen 91(1) Akta Syarikat 1965.

Serbuan itu dibuat setelah pemantauan berterusan selama beberapa bulan terhadap syarikat itu.

Something I thought of it long ago and didn't do it @ agriculture land because of security @ Agriculture land.

Warning: Pekan swiftlets Association sms that there is a group of 6 having dangerous weapons stealing EBN from BHs in Pekan-Rompin area so be careful when approaching these thieves....cos they are armed.

Time are bad enough without Perhilitan coming in for a kill, too.......the Chinese saying should go like this." Front door, we have Perhilitan and back door, we have robbers".

HYENA IS STALKING???




The present situation of the Malaysia Bird’s Nest industry is definitely looked bad and gloomy enough with the greedy and unscrupulous evil agenda Govt department behaving like tiger pounding on the industry at the front gate while the thieves and the robbers are like leopards climbing on the roof at all time. And now, news or rumours of another hyena is approaching quietly from behind. We have just received an urgent email from someone claimed insider of the following, wanting us to relay it to the FED ASSO immediately to be discussed too in their EGM right now. We hope someone can do it. We are now too loss of words, and we also put it up here to invite your comments, opinions, and suggestions. Circumstantial evidences pointing to 20% chance, the info is untrue.
OH, THE ALMIGHTY GOD PLEASE HELP SAVE MALAYSIA AND ITS PEOPLE………..



Veterinary department has proposed strict control over the swiftlet nest business.

1 All premises will strictly adhere to GAHP recommendations
2 All exports to go through a governing body, to ensure quality and health standards. Presumably incl. price and to carry the "Product of Malaysia"
3 All processing to be done by approved factories to be able to enforce (2)
4 All Swiftlet Ranches will be registered and all produce will be recorded and traceable via RFID.
5 No unprocessed nests allowed to be exported

First, the Perhilitan smells Blood($) in this industry then the Health ministry want a say in the GP.....sooner or later, all government departments and agencies want a piece of the meat!!!

Words of Advice, sell your BH when it's high or otherwise they may just take it away.......................cara 1Malaysia!!!!!!

That is one of the major reasons why the profitabilty of this industry should not have been disclosed, especially in this forum.
Never even estimate how much is being exported, even speculation will make people jealous.

Now, everyone wants a piece of the action. It's quite obvious IRS will be making demands next.

Regardless of the high failure rate, the successful ones will be also sucked dry.

Again be AWARE that NGOs are reading this forum for ammunition against all swiftlet ranchers. We are the fools for keeping them well informed.

This company Aeroswift Consultancy Sdn. Bhd. sounds very familiar.

Is there any link with the Hairy Crab?!

Since started involved in the industry, within few weeks noticed is wild wild con world out there. All pretending like sifus gurus more like hantus. Price marked up several times. Salt can be sold as secret recipe. Shit can be treated as gold! From head to toes every 'sifus' also want a chuck of you. And now the mighty government departments have just declare war to slaughter this industry.

1GP = rakyat ditendang macam anjing. Perhilitan boleh!

My friend Tuck Fook.....you worried too much,

BH is infact a poor man dream to be rich just like buying lottery but here in BH, you don't lose.....you only draw as all investment will be refunded to you by the next guy who wish to try his luck at the Jack Pot. Share Market does not appeal to me at all cos they are manipulated by the super rich and powerful men.


It's just like gold mining, if you strike gold...you will be well taken care off in your old age and your children education be paid for but if you don't, never mind cos you still get back your investment. Head, you win and Tail, you draw ....so no problem.

Those Hyenas can smell blood and they have their sources even without you telling and what do you think the ECO guys are preaching all this while!!!!!! Pot of Gold at every BH invested and feed the hyenas with the taste of the good thing.......but if you haven't got lots of meat (EBN), no problem with them and only when you are successful, they will come to get their share of meat.

Here, what I wish is to have as many Malaysian esp Malay to be in the trade as most Malays do have idle land @ Kampung and there are poor malay as well as poor chinese and indian but the Malays have the advantages here as they do have lots of land.

We aren't selfish and we wish to teach all Malaysian irrespective of color or religion to be successful.......how to persuade and one way is to tell how good and easy it is to make from the trade unlike planting padi or others....and it is not lies cos Allah is almighty and if He wish to give, Alhamduellah.

The swiftlets come and go as they please and only God determine if they stay.....Amen.

ps....my intentions here are always for everybody to read especially the NGOs and the Authorities concerned.....hope that they do have heart.

Check this out.

http://www.kamalswift.com/blog/

Marketing man doing job for Aeroswift.

BTW, to West Wing and so many others, the industry owes you all a lot to make it more mainstream.

WW you are too noble, kind, and magnanimous.

I have no qualms in helping anyone start and do well in swiftlet ranching, as many people will testify. Anyone is welcome.

I definitely will not provide information that will be used against Swiftlet Ranching, seeing that I am already having a tremendously difficult time trying to convince the authorities that Swiftlet Ranching is good for everyone and even in towns. That we can co exist symbiotically, mutually beneficial.

None of my farms are at risk from being prohibited but many of my friends' are, as they have built within Georgetown. I am only trying to help prevent the destruction of many farms already operational within Georgetown(and other towns). I realised, in working together with DL several years ago that the future of ranches within urban areas, especially Heritage zones would be bleak. Unfortunate for some, once invested in high risk areas there was no way to relocate.

All I am requesting is that no information be provided to anyone, that may jeopardize the situation and destroy the livelihood of many many people relying on their existing ranches in Georgetown and similar areas under threat.

As is, I know of much information picked up from this forum that several NGOs have used to criticize Swiftlet Ranching.

The authorities have the concerns of all citizens, they would have nothing against any swiftlet ranch operating in urban areas if not for the hundreds of valid complaints they have received and are still receiving. The Authorities have to be fair, we have to be fair, for now and the future. In 99% of all the cases, the Swiftlet Ranch has been the recent intruder.

You are probably right, they already know, lets not remind them.

Lets FOCUS on the 1) Perhilitan's Wildlife Protection Bill 2010, on how we can be totally excluded from the greedy clutches of Perhilitan.
2) stringent controls that Veterinari and MOH may impose on Swiftlet Ranching, how we can negotiate for easier terms.
3) IRS so that Swiftlet Ranching may perhaps get a Tax exemption for 10 years or more. (high investment, high risk, pioneering status)

without having to answer to the bad publicity created by PHT, CAP, SAM, SPCA, B Warisan, Gen.Public and R Assoc.

I'm confident everyone will understand.

This post has been edited by tuckfook: May 11 2010, 10:27 PM

do we have anyone recording the journals or documentary to this thing? it will be good to have videographer to follow the issue live . like reality tv or documentary .

CRAP, CRAP, CRAP (must be said in 3s for emphasis)
So,.. we have here, fancy technology for it's own sake and lofty useless ideas for resolving non existing problems.
I must be out of circulation for a very long time. In that time DVS has become a successful business concern and..
is now consulting for the EBN industry. hmmm

NOTHING EVEN REMOTELY INITIATED BY THE GOVT HAS EVER SUCCEEDED OVER TIME.
STOP ALL THESE NONSENSICAL IDEAS, YOU ARE HELPING US TO AN EARLY DEATH.

This post has been edited by Cergau: May 11 2010, 11:42 PM