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Anyway, no offense to all for rocking the boat.

just now after rain went to see a location
1000+ swiftlets flying cover the whole sky 
1 successful BH there with a few supporting bh around
there's 1 shophouse directly 6m behind for sale
but the owner asking 400k for the 2storey corner unit ....  quite expensive because that place ground floor no commercial use/rental

Seniors here .... can give me newbie some opinions ??? 
Thank You.

Again, no offense to all members.

After reading thru 1GP read and reread 1GP, we are just trying to understand the Spirit behind 1GP.

The spirit that I understand is +VE. It is all talking about regulation, setting up rules and regulation to ensure minimum disruption to town folks.

I personally think that as breeders, it is the same spirit that we should instill way before one getting involved in this trade. Else, you will give up very soon.

Similarly like the Jap, if you always waiting and look forward for the GREAT EARTHQUAKE, it will come eventually. So what kind of Spirit you need to have to survive? Migrate to other countries or built the best building complies with all standards to withstand the major quakes?!

With the failure rate of 80%, come to think of it, it is a BIG NO NO to invest your hard-earned money in this trade. Why want to invest if the Winning rate is only 1 out of 5 or 6. Of course there will be sifus out there who claimed all win no lose. May be they are lucky ones who started early, early birds, owning 1 to 2 successful one out of L. If you ask them to go to hotspots and do the same now, can they perform? That is d challenge.

But if you check properly their achievements, if can own 50% of successful bhs already consider remarkable achievement, probably 1 in 100. Please correct if the statistic is wrong.

Most who owns 5, 10, 20, 30 also utilize their very few successful ones to support the remaining ones, kind of gambling, putting more bet to increase chances of success. Please correct again if wrong.

Great migration happened 20-30 yrs ago esp for the Chinese moving from towns to the cities. In the past, most of them staying in towns right above the shoplots (this including yours truly ) and now all these upper floors are mostly empty or use as storage. Just an unofficial statistic taken during CNY. In our previous school, one batch got 300 students. 30 yrs later the same batch only left 60. You see the difference! So what's the problem against town bhs again? 

Internal prob?

Hope am not open up floodgates of truth, myth, lies ... no offense. Just for discussion sake!

try to pay a visit to indonesia bird nest city......nearest one would be nearby medan (about 1.5hrs drive), then u know what i'm talking about. chinese say "cry without tear drop".

Swiftlets over here are weird. Sometimes they dont tend to play around at the monkey house. Sometime make me wonder if my swiftlet population decrease as well. Luckily, after we count the nests, they are actually increasing.

May be you can try to elaborate what happen in Medan side? 10 yrs ago some friend asking to JV in Medan but the deal tak jadi else I'll get to know much early wat specie is fuciphagus. But if so good, why JV, must be some reason.

Now increasing number of northern investors heading north into Thai. Understandably Thai are less problematic/redtapes in this industry, not so many self serving individuals trying to twist the 'law' to their own advantage.

If they continue to put more pressure and uncertainly to the locals, lets forget abt ecopark watsoever. Let's invest in Thai in big scale. Learn from the swiftlet. If your nest continue to get force harvest from the greedy owners, then leave you nest and move to other bhs.

This bird nest city over 1000 BH (30yrs ago) and at one time the sky is clouded with swiftlet. Unfortunately, now the highest harvest is no way more than 4kg per month. Reason being, too many BH along the flying path, open burning (no food sauce, got to fly far away) & too much development. It is similar to kota bahru (any few more bird nest city), my friend BH use to harvest over 60kg/mth (7yrs ago) but now less than 20kg/mth. Another example, kuantan, use to harvest 25kg/mth now 15kg/mth.

every new place, where have 15yrs to farm is consider mature already i.e. too many BH surrounded u. u got to keep moving to find new location.

thailand is still very new in this industry i.e. government not much concern yet. i would say similarily to malaysia BH back in 1995.  easier to farm as all the cave nest (island) fully tenanted and each batch, u can imagine how many young birds are looking for home. If interested, i have a few for sell too (don't worry all good potential with monthly reasonable harvest)

This bird nest city over 1000 BH (30yrs ago) and at one time the sky is clouded with swiftlet. Unfortunately, now the highest harvest is no way more than 4kg per month. Reason being, too many BH along the flying path, open burning (no food sauce, got to fly far away) & too much development. It is similar to kota bahru (any few more bird nest city), my friend BH use to harvest over 60kg/mth (7yrs ago) but now less than 20kg/mth. Another example, kuantan, use to harvest 25kg/mth now 15kg/mth.

every new place, where have 15yrs to farm is consider mature already i.e. too many BH surrounded u. u got to keep moving to find new location.

thailand is still very new in this industry i.e. government not much concern yet. i would say similarily to malaysia BH back in 1995.  easier to farm as all the cave nest (island) fully tenanted and each batch, u can imagine how many young birds are looking for home. If interested, i have a few for sell too (don't worry all good potential with monthly reasonable harvest)

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Isn't that Harry's ?

In building a BH, you first must find a suitable location before anything else or you maybe lucky...like Head you win, tail, you lose and that's like going to Genting and try your luck.

Arm yourself with the basic of doing BH or just like afew days ago, at a AGM of a swiftlet association, while I was suggesting to the Association to set up "Carry On Education" for members, one member stand up and said," I don't know about Swiftlets and I built one on my own because the contractor demanded too much and it was a successl"

My reply to him is just like you are walking in total darkness and you fall and you find a gold bar that hit your head and you think that each time you fall, you strike Gold but the next time maybe a nail in your head. One time lucky doesn't mean all time lucky so you need to arm yourself with some knowledge in BH ranching before venturing into the Buz....cos you never know if you are lucky again. Lucky mean that you happened to be in a good location and you did nothing negative but why not be safer to ensure you get better chance to be successful.

Just want newbiz to beware...and B careful

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Added on March 26, 2011, 2:38 pm
Harry is having so many swiftlets Blogs selling and he must be pretty rich.

Hi WW, thanks for your generous advice 1000K times. Come to my questions i still have doubt in building aprroval and cost. Give you give me so guidance ?