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V3. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus

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htqueck	Dec 22 2010, 02:12 AM Return to original view \| Post #1
New Member Junior Member 11 posts Joined: May 2010	QUOTE(coolandy @ Dec 21 2010, 08:46 PM) Aroma Challenge. I am thinking of conducting an experiment on the effectiveness of aromas in the market and I am willing to award RM5000.00 to the successful one. I propose to apply the aromas to 6 nesting planks in a row. Each NP has to be at least 10ft in length. NP1. Apply aroma on the right half. NP2. Apply aroma on the left half NP3. apply aroma on the right half NP4. Apply aroma on the left half and so on. After 3 months, the birds should gather right-left-right-left etc as per pattern of aroma application. I will be conducting the experiment and need witness too. Any takers? Input from you all are welcome. Spread the news. Hope this will put an end to the argument about the effectiveness of man-made aromas. Is RM5000 enough? I am willing to place the amount up front for safekeeping to a trusted source. See seng? WW? Ben chai? JUST INTRODUCE MYSELF I AM NEWBIES AT SWIFTLETS FARMING , GOT RBW BUILT BY CONS...ULTANT OLEDI 13 MONTHS BUT NO BIRD AT ALL , SUDDENLY I DISCOVER THIS ON SWIFTLETS FARMING ... FOR ME IS OKAY RBW NO BIRD , NOTHING WILL HAPPEN FUNNY SWIFTLETS MUST...MUST .... IMPORTANT THAN HUMAN LIFE.... ATTENTION TO ALL PLS READ CAREFULLLY AEROSOL SPRAY Aerosol Poisoining in Birds 濕劑對鳥類的毒化 Precaution: Aerosol Spray Can Be Fatal to Your Swiftlet !!! I hate to write this article but after reading the hazard of aerosol spray to birds at: http://www.petmd.com/bird/emergencies/pois...rosol_poisoning it is my responsibility to make everyone aware. This have something to do with those BH aroma using the aerosol spray method. After reading and fully understand of this 2 posting i going to take following for this coming MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEARS 2011 1. HOUSEKEEPING TO MY HOUSE CLEAR ALL AEROSOL SPRAY AT MY HOUSE LIKE INSECT KILLER (FUMAKILA , RIDSECT , SHETOX ) ALL AEROSOL SPAY AT MY TOILET , PERFUME , W-40 ETC BCOS FOR ME MY FAMILY LIFE IS IMPORTANT THAN SWIFTLETS 2. TO STAY AT HOME NOT GOING OUT ESPECIALLY FULLY AIR CONDITION AREA LIKE SHOPPING COMPLEX , PUBLIC TOILET , ALL SHOP USING AEROSOL SPRAY LIKE RESTORAN , BODY SHOP , PHAUMACY ETC BCOS SURE THEY SELLING AEROSOL SPRAY ITEM ... 3. TO TELL MY BOSS TO TAKE DOWN ALL AEROSOL SPRAY PERFUME AT OFFICE , TOILET OTHERWISE I WILL RESIGN TO SAFEGUARD MY LIFE ... 4. TO MAKE REPORT AND COMPLAIN TO OUR GOVERNMENT TO TAKE ACTION AGAIN THOSE USING AEROSOL SPRAY AND BANNED ALL AEROL SPRAY PRODUCT BASED ON INFORMATION PROVIDED AT THIS 2 BLOG ... 5. TO PASS THIS INFORMATION TO ALL MY FRIENDS AND ALL PRESS TO ADVETISE IN ALL LOCAL NEWS PAPER ABOUT THIS SO CALL IMPORTANT INFORMATION AT THIS 2 BLOG... THANKS TO THIS 2 CON...SUL..TANT SIFU YR CONTRIBUTION R HIGHLY APPERICIATED... SWIFTLETS WILL LIKE YOURS SO MUCH BCOS REALLY CARE ABOUT THEIR LIFE INSTEAD OF HUMAN LIFE AND SAFETY AAAAAAA......... SWIFTLETS LOVE YOURS CAN TALK BAHASA BIRD... MY HUMBLE AND SINCERE TO SIFUS ... 1. PLS PROMOTE OUR MALAYSIA BOLEH PRODUCT AND ASK GOVERNMENT TO BAN ALL INDO PRODUCT WE OLEDI LV WHY NEED H3N1 CINTAI LAH BARANGAN BUATAN MALAYSIA 2. CALL AND TELL THE BIRD THE DANGER OF H3N1 I BELIEVE YRS CAN TALK BAHASA BURUNG WALIT NOT WALET ...MALAYSIA BOLEH 3. TELL OUR MINISTER AND VETERNINAR DEPARTMENT , CALL OUR PM BAN H3N1 AT 1GP GUIDELINES I BELIEVE YRS MAKE IT HAPPEN I VERY YR CAN DO IT MALAYSIA BOLEH 4. DO MORE R & D SWIFTLETS PRODUCT ASK BIRD WHAT THEY WANT AND PLS DO ACCORDING AND TELL THEM H3N1 INDO NO GOOD MALAYSIA 1 VERY GOOD .. 5. DO MORE CHARITY WORK AND CHARGE CHEAPER FEE TO HELP OUR MALAYSIA SWIFTLETS FARMER TRAP AND CON BY INDO PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANT SEMINAR , PRODUCT...... SINCE WE MALAYSIA BOLEH WHY GO OVER TO INDO LEARN ALL THIS THING ....SO FUNNY IF MALAYSIA BOLEH WHY INDO ... PENING ... TO RESPECTED SAUDARA PAK BEN CHAI , CALVIN , JIM LEE ... PLS TELL YR SIFU PAK HM FOLOWING .... 1. DO TELL ALL AND TEACH EVERYTHING SWIFTLETS SECERET AT SEMINAR TO SPOIL OURS RICHBOW ... 2. PLS DON'T SELL YR GOOD PRODUCT AT MALAYSIA SELL AT INDO , BAD PRODUCT R WELCOME OTHERWISE NO SICK HOUSE WE DOCTOR CANNOT CARI MAKAN ... I NEED TO TAKE CARE MY FAMILY PLS DON'T TOO MUCH ...... 3. TELL ME YR H3N1 FORMULA I AM COPY CAT ... 4. YR PRODUCT MUST DISTRIBUTE THOUGH ME OTHERWISE THIS THING IS NOT THE 1 AND LAST ... CANNOT SELL SO CHEAP WE CANNOT LAWAN... 5. I FIRE U PLS KEEP DIAM ... BCOS I WANT TO TUPANG YR NAME SINCE YR NAME R SO FAMOUS , U TAK RUGI APA-APA.... PLS LET ME TUPANG...IF I NOT TIKAM U , NO BODY KNOW ME ....PLS LET ME TIKAM U ... I PROMISE I TIKAM RINGAN SAJA TAK SAKUT ... 6. WE NEED TONGKAT AND POINT JARI TO OTHER IS OUR CULTURE HOPE U UNDERSTAND AND DON'T MIND AND PLS DON'T REMOVE OUR TONGKAT BCOS WE VERY WEAK ON THIS ... WE NEED YR FULL CORPERATION 7. PLS DON'T TOO SERIOUS ON SWIFTLETS CONSULTANTCY AT MALAYSIA ... CHIN CHIN CHAI CHAI SUDAH ...BCOS MALAYSIA GOT A LOT OF DOCTOR NEED TO SURVIVE .... INDO IS OKAY ...WE MALAYSIA BOLEH ... IF I ASK YR ADVISE PLS KEEP P & C LAH , GENTLEMEN SIKIT LAH JANGAN POST DI INTERNET SY MALU MAH ..... SELUAR SUDAH JATUH NAMPAK BANA..... SORRY I DAH RUPA ENGLISH AND BAHASA MELAYU CAMPUR-CAMPUR HOPE U UNDERSTAND , BIASALAH BUKA SALAH YA ... SALAH CIKGU ... SY BETUL DAN PREFECT , MANA BOLEH ADA SALAH ... SY BETUL SEMUA DAN JANGAN BUANG PASIR DALAM RICH BOWL , GIVE ME MORE OXIGEN TO NAFAS..... HA..HA.... ALL THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION AND WITHOUT PREJUDICE ANY PROBLEM PLS CONTACT MY PERSONAL LAWYER ... PLS LET OURS BRAIN TO WORK FOR US THINK LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE ...... PLS ASIST ME IF I AM WRONG AND MY SINCERE APOLOGISE TO ALL THANKS FOR YR TIMES
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htqueck	Dec 25 2010, 10:11 AM Return to original view \| Post #2
New Member Junior Member 11 posts Joined: May 2010	QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Dec 25 2010, 10:05 AM) coolandy, Your initiative is a greatest Christmas gift to the swiftlets farming industry. Now, we have H4N1 from Indonesia confirmed participation without much hesitation and it will be more interesting if our Malaysia top aroma makers are brave enough to take out the challenge. WHERE IS OUR MALAYSIA BOLEH .......PLS 2 BLOGGER + SIFUS :clap
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htqueck	Dec 26 2010, 11:53 PM Return to original view \| Post #3
New Member Junior Member 11 posts Joined: May 2010	QUOTE(tuckfook @ Dec 25 2010, 11:25 PM) IMHO, I think what we all really want is an aroma that'll attract birds even if the conditions are not perfect. There is no telling whether an aroma is doing anything when it is used in an already successful birdhouse or a section of an already well populated BH. It can be concluded that since a BH is already doing well, regardless of aroma the birds would eventually populate the NP anyway. If an aroma works in a proven failed BH then it is the miracle cure. I'll offer Rm10k for that. I'm sure everyone notes the caveat that all the aroma vendors claim that the conditions must be right before the aroma will work. Logically if the conditions are right, why then would we require any aroma ? I have tried several aromas, side by side, in a section of my house that has no birds, so far, in 3 months, still no shit. So what does that prove ? Somehow the conditions are not right so aroma does not work ? If the conditions are right would I need to look into using an aroma ? In a new BH, we have to "fool" the visiting birds that they are within a thriving swiftlet community, so sound, darkness, temperature, humidity and basically security are very important. For a thriving community, there must be lots and lots of shit so I'm sure we already know what we need. So, I'll let everyone in on a secret ! In my dusun BH, I bought 300 sacks of fresh chicken dung and kept it all around the perimeter of the BH. Inside I had 100kgs. of swiftlet dung plus 100kgs of ammonium bicarbonate. The aroma around the BH was absolute shit, birdshit to be exact. From day 1 as soon as I turned the sound on, the birds circled and entered almost all day long. As soon as my neighbour saw the birds , he too built a BH. In 1 year, I had over 8 standalone BHs build within 300m of mine. Can anyone offer me a miracle cure to populate my now unvisited and therefore unpopulated nesting area I'll may be prepared to pay your price. TAN 2020 IMHO, I think what we all really want is an aroma that'll attract birds even if the conditions are not perfect. You are looking for a magic potion? ... if you cannot get the basic condition for Swiftlet right, why getting into the business?? Is it because of the "Greed"inside YOU??. There is no telling whether an aroma is doing anything when it is used in an already successful birdhouse or a section of an already well populated BH. It can be concluded that since a BH is already doing well, regardless of aroma the birds would eventually populate the NP anyway. - We already conducted the test at same location, Aroma indeed can help to tame the birds FASTER to build nests than the BH without Aroma - when basic condition is RIGHT. [[color=blue] he.....he..... where is our malaysia boleh sifus .... since our malaysia sifu r so shy , SO WE DO OURSELF LAH ... DIY LAH WHY WE NEED THEM TO JOINT , I YA WE ALSO CAN LAH . ok lah let newbies try i c .... ok , let me try for free , no need 5 k or 10 k.... he...he... important is knowledge and experience than i can gain leh , what is there 5 k and 10 k , hey man value of knowledge is INFINITY , WE SHALL THANKFUL ON THIS .. [I] i would like to suggest on senior tuckfook and our pak HM tester tan2020 dispute as below : as i mention earlier my BH did by CONS....ULTANTS oledi 13 months no bird at alll , ha....ha... now new DR is taken over(myself) and bcos motivated by our sifu tuckfook post and opinion , i decided to become WHITE RAT to give little contribution on swiftlets aroma ... , i think my BH(suka sendiri) is most suitable to do test on all aroma why : 1. no risk , no bird mah 2. oledi sick no harm to go for big operation. 3. like tan2020 mention other factor also important so since my BH oledi sick may be H3N1 can do black magic for me...he..he. hope JACKPOT .... 4. Is good to test on problem and empty BH to c how effective of swiftlets aroma ... may be......pray for me pls...... 5. FYI i/Cons... did a lot mistakes on my BH like smell problem , NP dirty , LMB problem , wiring .... but now oledi clean properly.. hope for good start yr 2011....yeah..... as u know i am newbies and don't have experienced , no good sound ....just learn tepi jalan , from book , dun have sifu ...just have basics knowledge and willing to become WHITE RAT , Other experienced swiftlets farmer r may be not suitable lah bcos they oledi track record and got other "KUNG FU" to help so may be result not so...... he.....he... just a bit drugged.... drinking too much for MERRY CHRISTMAS ....bull shit a lots .. [SIZE=7] actually i oledi bought few canN of H3N1 but scare to use after reading 2 Malaysia Boleh sifu comment on blog ... oledi more than a week no respond from them so i use my BRAIN LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE I decide to put on my sick BH c AMIN, O DI THA FOR CAN HELP ON BALCK MAGIC... he.... he.... sifu tuckfook and tan2020 dun worry my suggestion/testing is result nothing liable to yr just little info on swiftlets aroma , unfortunately i don't have LP otherwise i will try also.... JUST MY LITTLE OPINION ON SWIFTLETS AROMA HOPE ALL BIG BROTHER AND SIFU DON'T MIND....he..he... i just enjoy to do more R & D BROTHER TUCKFOOK AND TAN 2020 GIVE ME 3 MONTHS I WILL TELL U RESULT..... LAST SUGGESTION ANY 1 WANT TO CONTRIBUTE LP OR WITNESS OR TAKE CHANCE OF VISIT EMPTY BH AT BM , PENANG CAN ME AT 016-4176747 JOINT ME AS WHITE RAT.... ALL R WELCOME TO TEST ANYTHING U WANT AT MY SICK BH .... MY SINCERE OFFER IS FREE WHY SUSAH-SUSAH ASK THEM TO JOINT TOURNAMENT , FREE MARKETING AND ADVERTISEMENT ....HE HE... TALK BIRD AGAIN...C YR 2011 LAH [SIZE=7] MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR 2011 ..... PRAY FOR SWIFTLETS REZEKI FOR ME THANKS BEST RGS[/B] This post has been edited by htqueck: Dec 27 2010, 05:04 PM
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htqueck	Dec 28 2010, 05:31 AM Return to original view \| Post #4
New Member Junior Member 11 posts Joined: May 2010	QUOTE(coolandy @ Dec 28 2010, 12:10 AM) I have yet to be contacted by any teams sponsoring aroma. We will work together to formulate the objectives and guidelines. I assure you all of my fullest cooperation. I prefer to do the test but if someone else is interested, it is acceptable to me if certain conditions are met. YES BOSS............BOSS......BOSS.....BOSSY Happy New Year 2011 to all. Subject: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!! Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you and your family! Best regards. Queck This post has been edited by htqueck: Dec 28 2010, 05:33 AM
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htqueck	Mar 19 2011, 04:57 PM Return to original view \| Post #5
New Member Junior Member 11 posts Joined: May 2010	[SIZE=7]SWIFTLETS FARMING UNDER PR GOV. OF PR AT PENANG JUST FOR INFO ONLY RBW AT TELUK AIR TAWAR , SEBERANG PERAI UTARA , PENANG ACTUALLY I TRY TO ATTACHED PHOTO ....ANY ONE CAN ADVISE ON THIS ....TAHNKS http://cw_gee.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=11241211 This post has been edited by htqueck: Mar 22 2011, 11:08 PM
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htqueck	Apr 9 2011, 08:36 AM Return to original view \| Post #6
New Member Junior Member 11 posts Joined: May 2010	QUOTE(Bobby C @ Apr 3 2011, 05:31 PM) Guess majority farmers don't care whether BN or PR win as long as two party system set up firmly in this country like in US with Democrat and Republican taking turns to rule, UK, Oz and many mature country where no parties got absolute power to suppress the people. Last thing we want to see is another Gadhafi doing rap song in Youtube and bomb his own people. Spoken to a lot of Sawarakians, many who are not involved in this industry also frustrated how this white hair rule the state like he is the CEO of Salawak owning timber, water, electricity, concrete, etc etc even can buy a bank. How can gomen servant act like businessman own the state like own co?? Something seriously not right lah. Salawakians should laugh at their ownself for allowing all these nonsense happening under white hair. Breaking into and tearing down their bhs like no rules and law. Anyway, we in Peninsular don't care PR or BN win as long as we see justice to all rakyat and 2 party mature political system in this country. Who are PR and BN, both are our servants lah. We are the bosses. Whoever rob and threaten us, we shall sack. [FONT=Times][SIZE=14][COLOR=red][COLOR=blue]Who are PR and BN, both are our servants lah. We are the bosses. Whoever rob and threaten us, we shall sack. Ha.....ha.... so c what happen at Penang so shall be sack DAP Gov....... pls think and advise ....thanks This post has been edited by htqueck: Apr 9 2011, 08:44 AM
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htqueck	Apr 10 2011, 12:54 PM Return to original view \| Post #7
New Member Junior Member 11 posts Joined: May 2010	QUOTE(tuckfook @ Apr 9 2011, 01:29 PM) What happened in Penang ? please enlighten . http://cw_gee.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=11241211 http://www.filefactory.com/file/ca99f3a/n/08-04-11_b.wmv Press http://mykampung.sinchew.com.my/node/137492?tid=4 http://www.nanyang.com.my/NewsCenter/artic...32&SID=8&CID=17 http://beta.chinapress.com.my/node/204979 http://www.guangming.com.my/node/100167?tid=23 http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2011/04/09/23.html http://www2.orientaldaily.com.my/read/SOC/...yET4XSG0u7D9eB8
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