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post Jul 24 2010, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(ck77 @ Jul 23 2010, 05:56 PM)
beau, you have some real interesting project/franken watches  thumbup.gif
when can we have a gtg and let me molest all of them?  rclxms.gif
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Only if you bring along a few nice looking women who don't mind being molested too!!


Added on July 24, 2010, 1:31 am
QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jul 23 2010, 06:23 PM)
can share the contacts to these shops?
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Have to be discreet as some of these individuals do outsource work for the brands & moonlight to make these pieces. The purchases are also opportunistic in the sense that these individuals happen to come across some stock of old movements & decided to re furbish them & put them in new cases

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I welcome PM! esp if U are willing to disclose the info!


Added on July 24, 2010, 5:07 am
QUOTE(lalala_tupai @ Jul 24 2010, 12:37 AM)
thanks for the replies  biggrin.gif about my budget, up to $1.2k. i guess i can narrow it down to either stowa or mido.

is it easy to get discount on mido? better buy online or at the stores?

could you enlighten me on this VAT, i read bout the tax thingy getting stowa here to Malaysia, whats the best way?
U have to pay german sales tax, to get around it I read is to get a Fedex account. It don't cost you to get a Fedex account.

its not hard getting discount on Mido, they are part of swatch group. I would imagine U can get ~25-30% of their watches. maybe still a little left to get a 2nd watch.. maybe a Stowa Antea or Archimede!
not many online store sell Mido, U should compare prices. Online are usually grey and U don't get Mido's warranty. anything wrong U got to ship it back to the online retailer.

mido runs on ETA 2897, an auto watch 42hr pwr res
that stowa is on Unitas 6498, its manual with 56hr pwr res on swan neck regular. don't really mean anything to U since U are not regulating the watch.
archimede is indeed cheaper, made by Ickler GmbH http://www.ickler.de/English/DefaultE.htm I will go with Archimede. Stowa I like MO on Durowe 7440 movement, that cost more.

maybe this too?
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?i...3&Sel_ID=26#183

d. freemont sapphire series is very dress. pwr res too and Breguet hands! nice thing is you can customize it!
http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/sapphire_series.htm

I like this site, it exhibit varies level of decoration on these pocket watch movements, 6498
http://www.tourbywatches.com/shop/page/5?shop_param=

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post Jul 24 2010, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(lalala_tupai @ Jul 23 2010, 10:47 PM)
Hi all,

This is my first post though i've been reading here quite recently. I wish to buy a new watch, have no collection as of now. Many usefull info here, after much reading around i'm torn between these 4 watces rclxub.gif  icon_question.gif

1) Stowa Marine Original - http://www.basel2010.com/en/stowa-ma...weiss-hoch.php
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2) Mido Baroncelli Power Reserve - http://www.mido.ch/index.php?page=M8605-4-11-8
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3) Hamilton Jazzmaster Viewmatic - http://www.hamiltonwatch.com/webapp/...=AC&y=93&p=310
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4) Tissot Le Locle - http://www.tissot.ch/?mod_collection...d_T41_5_413_73
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I've listed the watches in the order of my preferences right now. Very much appreciate any feedback on any watch in my list.

Thanks  smile.gif
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i have the Tissot. been having it for couple of years. what can i say. value for money. Its clean, simple and elegant. Reliable too.

although its not a watch you'll want to wear every day. Sometimes you want to wear something flashy too.

i think of all the models, the Stowa is something you wont get bored with for a long long time. of course, you need to pay more for it.



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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jul 24 2010, 04:32 AM)
I welcome PM! esp if U are willing to disclose the info!


Added on July 24, 2010, 5:07 am

U have to pay german sales tax, to get around it I read is to get a Fedex account. It don't cost you to get a Fedex account.

its not hard getting discount on Mido, they are part of swatch group. I would imagine U can get ~25-30% of their watches. maybe still a little left to get a 2nd watch.. maybe a  Stowa Antea or Archimede!
not many online store sell Mido, U should compare prices. Online are usually grey and U don't get Mido's warranty. anything wrong U got to ship it back to the online retailer.

mido runs on ETA 2897, an auto watch 42hr pwr res
that stowa is on Unitas 6498, its manual with 56hr pwr res on swan neck regular. don't really mean anything to U since U are not regulating the watch.
archimede is indeed cheaper, made by Ickler GmbH http://www.ickler.de/English/DefaultE.htm I will go with Archimede. Stowa I like MO on Durowe 7440 movement, that cost more.

maybe this too?
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?i...3&Sel_ID=26#183

d. freemont sapphire series is very dress. pwr res too and Breguet hands! nice thing is you can customize it!
http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/sapphire_series.htm

I like this site, it exhibit varies level of decoration on these pocket watch movements, 6498 
http://www.tourbywatches.com/shop/page/5?shop_param=
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No problem in sharing the sources.I will need to check with the group & makers if they are fine in welcoming new members/customers. The problem is these type of watches are not readily available & depends on the watchmaker finding the stock of old movements . I'll be happy to pm you once I receive such notification.

It usually works this way:-

1. The watch maker will send an e mail informing prospective customers ( who happen to be mutual friends ) that he's found a certain number of a certain type of movement with a brief write up on the history of the movement as well as his suggestions on what it can be fashioned into.

2. He will poll the said customers on their preferences & send another e mail with his suggested path forward, lead time & price. Some makers will require payment in stages ( payment by way of wire transfer or paypal) or a deposit before work is commenced ( usually a sum sufficient to cover the purchase of parts & materials )

3. Some individual requests may be catered for eg Breguet blued hands etc but there is little bespoke options especially where the case & dial is concerned given the costs in fabricating these items .

The whole process can be a lengthy one so patience is required. By way of an example a maker sent a message informing the group that he came across some old Breitling movements . The group will provide feedback etc . Consensus is vital as this affects the price of the finished product.

The group tends to be trusted individuals-the watch maker need to trust them to make payment and they the maker to ensure the movements supplied are authentic. There is little or no after sales warranty unless one is located in close proximity ( old movements can be a tad temperamental to say the least ). The big plus point is the flexible warranty care-if one happens to be in the locality & the watch maker is available, drop in & he will service or repair your watch in most instances free or for minimal costs , provided it doesn't involve the purchase of major parts.

Most of these makers tend to be collectors themselves & prefer not to sell to traders . This also means that they will not substitute non authentic parts where possible & it can be a while if the watch needs fixing while they source for parts.

The other option is to buy wrist watches which have been converted from pocket watches.

Results have been mixed on that front.

BTW Panerai owes its re-birth to the discovery of 100 old Rolex movements which have not been fabricated into watches in the 80's . Those pieces are now selling at USD$50,000 to $60,000 at auctions etc.

Hope this is helpful
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post Jul 24 2010, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(beau @ Jul 24 2010, 09:36 AM)
No problem in sharing the sources.I will need to check with the group & makers if they are fine in welcoming new members/customers.  The problem is these type of watches are not readily available & depends on the watchmaker finding the stock of old movements . I'll be happy to pm you once I receive such notification.

It usually works this way:-

1. The watch maker will send an e mail informing prospective customers ( who happen to be mutual friends ) that he's found a certain number of a certain type of movement with a brief write up on the history of the movement as well as his suggestions on what it can be fashioned into.

2. He will poll the said customers on their preferences & send another e mail with his suggested path forward, lead time & price.  Some makers will require payment in stages ( payment by way of wire transfer or paypal) or a deposit before work is commenced ( usually a sum sufficient to cover the purchase of parts & materials )

3. Some individual requests may be catered for eg Breguet blued hands etc but there is little bespoke options especially where the case & dial is concerned given the costs in fabricating these items .

The whole process can be a lengthy one so patience is required. By way of an example a maker sent a message informing the group that he came across some old Breitling movements . The group will provide feedback etc . Consensus is vital as this affects the price of the finished product.

The group tends to be trusted individuals-the watch maker need to trust them to make payment and they the maker to ensure the movements supplied are authentic. There is little or no after sales warranty unless one is located in close proximity ( old movements can be a tad temperamental to say the least ). The big plus point is the flexible warranty care-if one happens to be in the locality & the watch maker is available, drop in & he will service or repair your watch in most instances free or for minimal costs , provided it doesn't involve the purchase of major parts.

Most of these makers tend to be collectors themselves & prefer not to sell to traders . This also means that they will not substitute non authentic parts where possible & it can be a while if the watch needs fixing while they source for parts.

The other option is to buy wrist watches which have been converted from pocket watches.

Results have been mixed on that front.

BTW Panerai owes its re-birth to the discovery of 100 old Rolex movements which have not been fabricated into watches in the 80's . Those pieces are now selling at USD$50,000 to $60,000 at auctions etc.

Hope this is helpful
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Very interesting and close-knit community indeed notworthy.gif
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post Jul 24 2010, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jul 24 2010, 04:32 AM)
I welcome PM! esp if U are willing to disclose the info!


Added on July 24, 2010, 5:07 am

U have to pay german sales tax, to get around it I read is to get a Fedex account. It don't cost you to get a Fedex account.

its not hard getting discount on Mido, they are part of swatch group. I would imagine U can get ~25-30% of their watches. maybe still a little left to get a 2nd watch.. maybe a  Stowa Antea or Archimede!
not many online store sell Mido, U should compare prices. Online are usually grey and U don't get Mido's warranty. anything wrong U got to ship it back to the online retailer.

mido runs on ETA 2897, an auto watch 42hr pwr res
that stowa is on Unitas 6498, its manual with 56hr pwr res on swan neck regular. don't really mean anything to U since U are not regulating the watch.
archimede is indeed cheaper, made by Ickler GmbH http://www.ickler.de/English/DefaultE.htm I will go with Archimede. Stowa I like MO on Durowe 7440 movement, that cost more.

maybe this too?
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?i...3&Sel_ID=26#183

d. freemont sapphire series is very dress. pwr res too and Breguet hands! nice thing is you can customize it!
http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/sapphire_series.htm

I like this site, it exhibit varies level of decoration on these pocket watch movements, 6498 
http://www.tourbywatches.com/shop/page/5?shop_param=
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Wow great suggestions ur giving here smile.gif yet somehow i've decided to go for the stowa MO thumbup.gif
Do I order straight from the website - http://www.stowa.de/shop/cgi-bin/lshop.cgi
Or do I email stowa first?

Thanks biggrin.gif
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post Jul 24 2010, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(lalala_tupai @ Jul 24 2010, 12:05 PM)
Wow great suggestions ur giving here  smile.gif yet somehow i've decided to go for the stowa MO  thumbup.gif
Do I order straight from the website - http://www.stowa.de/shop/cgi-bin/lshop.cgi
Or do I email stowa first?

Thanks  biggrin.gif
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Order direct from their website if you don't mind paying VAT.
Send them an email to ask for procedure if you intend to choose without VAT option.
Like we mentioned earlier, you would need a Fedex account for 2nd option.
More information here,
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=427252

This post has been edited by ck77: Jul 24 2010, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(ck77 @ Jul 24 2010, 12:20 PM)
Order direct from their website if you don't mind paying VAT.
Send them an email to ask for procedure if you intend to choose without VAT option.
Like we mentioned earlier, you would need a Fedex account for 2nd option.
More information here,
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=427252
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Thanks biggrin.gif will set up a Fedex acc
info@stowa.com is the email right?
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post Jul 24 2010, 01:17 PM

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what about technomarine watches?

http://techno-marine.net
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just about to put an order for this MO
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while browsing through some stowa pictures i came across this
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I believe this is an Antea KS, please correct me if i'm wrong. And it looks great thumbup.gif

On the stowa website it says MO is 41mm in diameter and Antea KS is 35.5mm. Also Antea is like half the price of the MO.
In a dilema now could you guys help recommend? rclxub.gif icon_question.gif

Thanks a lot biggrin.gif
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got 9V lithium cell coin battery 1?anyone see before?


Added on July 24, 2010, 5:07 pmany1 know what kind of glue to seal back the watch back case?

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post Jul 24 2010, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(lalala_tupai @ Jul 24 2010, 02:44 PM)
just about to put an order for this MO
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while browsing through some stowa pictures i came across this
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I believe this is an Antea KS, please correct me if i'm wrong. And it looks great thumbup.gif

On the stowa website it says MO is 41mm in diameter and Antea KS is 35.5mm. Also Antea is like half the price of the MO.
In a dilema now could you guys help recommend?  rclxub.gif  icon_question.gif

Thanks a lot  biggrin.gif
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its all about the font of the numbers isnt it? tongue.gif
BTW, do let us know about the Stowa's reply on the Vat thing...


Added on July 24, 2010, 6:16 pm

Patryn:
Chrono not really priority for me for now.....just that the Fortis was going cheap that day....so i was looking at it...
GMT ....well, havent found the right one...will be my next hunt...meanwhile use worldtimer clock in handphone.. rclxms.gif
The U1? it has been in my radar for long time...so i finally went for it...was considering Oris, Ball,

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QUOTE(lalala_tupai @ Jul 24 2010, 02:44 PM)
I believe this is an Antea KS, please correct me if i'm wrong. And it looks great thumbup.gif

On the stowa website it says MO is 41mm in diameter and Antea KS is 35.5mm. Also Antea is like half the price of the MO.
In a dilema now could you guys help recommend?  rclxub.gif  icon_question.gif
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many ppl like big watches and felt KS is small. thats why MO kinda command a much higher price.
KS uses the Peseux 7001 pwr res of ~42hrs, more brands uses this as their base movement.
anyway, size is a very personal thing. buy a watch U wear!


Added on July 24, 2010, 6:33 pm
QUOTE(nando @ Jul 24 2010, 06:12 PM)
Chrono not really priority for me for now.....just that the Fortis was going cheap that day....so i was looking at it...
GMT ....well, havent found the right one...will be my next hunt...meanwhile use worldtimer clock in handphone.. rclxms.gif
The U1? it has been in my radar for long time...so i finally went for it...was considering Oris, Ball,
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so when is U1 arriving? Sinn vs Oris, Ball.. welll I go for Sinn any day.

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How can i get this watch? how much it cost? drool.gif
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=381276
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QUOTE(taukekia @ Jul 24 2010, 11:08 PM)
How can i get this watch? how much it cost? drool.gif
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=381276
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that watch is sold.
new at AD may cost U ~RM4200 or more.
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I'm thinking of getting a new watch after 2 years with my Tissot PRS 516 Automatic.. This time thinking of getting leather strap, quartz.. hmmm

Anyway, going to Europe next year.. wonder will it be cheaper over there.. hehe..
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came across red army watches at tropicana, they do carry alot of german brands, but im not familiar with those brands.(which should i get?) just to share with fellow forumers, they will be having a sale starting tmr, maybe i will drop by to get one of them biggrin.gif


Added on July 25, 2010, 12:40 pmcame across red army watches at tropicana, they do carry alot of german brands, but im not familiar with those brands.(which should i get?) just to share with fellow forumers, they will be having a sale starting tmr, maybe i will drop by to get one of them biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(sophisto @ Jul 25 2010, 12:38 PM)
came across red army watches at tropicana, they do carry alot of german brands, but im not familiar with those brands.(which should i get?) just to share with fellow forumers, they will be having a sale starting tmr, maybe i will drop by to get one of them biggrin.gif


Added on July 25, 2010, 12:40 pmcame across red army watches at tropicana, they do carry alot of german brands, but im not familiar with those brands.(which should i get?) just to share with fellow forumers, they will be having a sale starting tmr, maybe i will drop by to get one of them biggrin.gif
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I thought they carry more Russian than German? even with German those brands seem to have a chinese/russian movement.
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jul 25 2010, 08:56 PM)
I thought they carry more Russian than German? even with German those brands seem to have a chinese/russian movement.
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i was misled by the shop's name, but once u stepped in, theres is definitely more german made than russian
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QUOTE(sophisto @ Jul 25 2010, 09:30 PM)
i was misled by the shop's name, but once u stepped in, theres is definitely more german made than russian
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not from the website. U see more watches from
http://www.redarmywatches.com/

- Vostok Europe (Russian movement, made in Eastern Europe)
- Aviator (Russian)
- Buran (Russian)
- Sturmanskie (Russian)
- Junker (German by POINT tec Germany but movement from Japan/Russian isn't uncommon, do have some swiss ETA)
- Zeppelin also by POINT tec Germany
- Poljot International (German made with russian movement)
- Denissov (Russian)
- Moscow Classic (Russian)
- NAUTICFISH (German)
- FIYTA (China - Shenzhen)
- Schaumburg (German)

do take a look at this
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=4166



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