anything different with cal 2824-2? saw the movement below rm500 w/o dial @ ebay..dunno genuine or not

true, but the dial is ugly.. and on top of that its a ETA 2824 standard version at GBP 340. will update the 1st post on value homage with iron core.
Stowa is a higher grade since they all come with blue screws. on top of that Stowa do make the effort to inspect the movement received from ETA and regulate to Stowa specs.
Speedbird , no real histroy. brand is called Speedbird? certainly its cheap. is that swiss movement UK made? seem like Timefactors are the ones making it. seem like a mix bag, the 1st version is swiss, then its german by Ickler then now on the dial is Britain.

just found out got stock this morning, but can't place order.
then place order when lunch then it become no stock....   

Ya not so much history of Speedbird and TimeFactor, but they do have some favourable reviews on WUS.
http://forums2.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=345409
http://forums2.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=383762

How about Steinhart 44mm? Was contemplating before I decided to pull the trigger for Laco.
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/index.php?i...0&Sel_ID=18#120

a gold plate eta 2824 only selling at us$118 or under rm400.
http://www.ofrei.com/page_183.html

hi there. any of u guys have any knowledge on this watch here?

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/toku5052/imgs/9/b/9bd86a37.jpg
Seiko SARB065

if it was 450USD, is it worth the buy? care to shed some light on this?

speedbird is value for $$.
Steinhart  offer a great looking homage.
i rather give up the soft iron core for a display back.
So how is the Laco performing?

hi there. any of u guys have any knowledge on this watch here?

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/toku5052/imgs/9/b/9bd86a37.jpg
Seiko SARB065

if it was 450USD, is it worth the buy? care to shed some light on this?

You know what patryn, I got a wild dream to change the Miyota to ETA if can find a reliable and trustworthy watchmaker here.  

the 065 is a beautiful watch. much better looking in person. i was very impressed with the dial finishing.
the strap and deployant buckle that comes with the 065 as well as other cosmetic differences (including the stunning sunburst dial and the curved crystal) make it worth the premium over the 013 imho. the 065 goes very well with a suit. my only wish is for Seiko to remove the date on the 065. the 065 also uses the 6R15B which has minor differences with the 6R15A that the 013 uses though it shouldn't be of any consequence (google for differences)

Difference Between 6R15A & 6R15B

Hi, recently received my Seiko Spirit SCVS003 in the post from Japan (23 Jan 2007). Having seen the pictures that Jurgen posted, I had to have one. All the other excellent photos and reviews were really helpful. Took me a while to track down a dependable vendor.

I emailed the query about the movement to Seiya Kobayashi of Seiyajapan.com and he explained that the 6R15B uses 6 different parts compared to the 6R15A. The 6 parts are all from the new 6R20 movement used in the Premier range. Seiko decided to do this to achieve economies of scale through mainstreaming the parts for the production of both watches.

There is no quality difference between the two movements, this is merely a cost cutting exercise.

The different parts are; the barrel and train wheel bridge, the movement barrel (complete), the centre wheel & pinion, the ratchet wheel, the oscillating weight and the ratchet wheel screw.

My watch has the later 6R15B, although Seiya's website photos show a 6R15A movement. I paid £138 for the watch, £9 duty and 13.50 to Parcelthief (or whatever they're called) for handling!!

Also, I had 3 extra links put in as my wrist is 8.5 inches. I took this precaution as so many people said that the bracelet can only fit 7.5 inch wrists at the largest. Upon receipt, I was surprised to find that I had to take all 3 links out! The bracelet fitted perfectly in the original size - don't know what happened there. Shame, coz Seiko charged £14 for supplying the 3 links!

Best Wishes

Gary

great pictures!
U sold your 013? its great to have a Seiko expert inhouse.
whats your experience with Hardlex? I know ppl here didn't really like mineral crystal as it does scratch easily.

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if u do change it to ETA 2824, I guess u not getting a stowa then.
u plan to buy the movement yourself and get watchmaker to regulate and install it? or have the watchmaker do everything?

i basically sold the 013 at no loss. after using it for about a year (got it when it was first launched), the watch was still pristine. i don't baby my watches but i am also mindful of how my watches are treated when i use them (even with my swiss watches). finishing on the 6R15 movt is of course a bit lacking and much better on the 6R20 (i also had a seiko premier auto and sold it off). i've showed the premier to some swiss watchmakers before and they were very impressed with the quality of the USD500+ watch.

so what are the points to look for to appreciate a watch?
movement, craftsmanship, history?

the 065 is a beautiful watch. much better looking in person. i was very impressed with the dial finishing.

i basically sold the 013 at no loss. after using it for about a year (got it when it was first launched), the watch was still pristine. i don't baby my watches but i am also mindful of how my watches are treated when i use them (even with my swiss watches). finishing on the 6R15 movt is of course a bit lacking and much better on the 6R20 (i also had a seiko premier auto and sold it off). i've showed the premier to some swiss watchmakers before and they were very impressed with the quality of the USD500+ watch.

swiss watchmaker by that u mean... ppl working on watches movements in Switzerland?

which premier did U get? is it this below? ~usd500+ for a pwr res watch is a good deal
http://www.larrybiggs.net/scwf/index.php?m...1&id=1160447201