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 Turtles, Terrapins and Tortoises V5

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auhckw
post Jul 28 2010, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Blutangskink @ Jul 28 2010, 08:57 AM)
You can always buy from registered seller or shop, they have license to sale tortoise, and makesure keep the receipt.

If you only buy 1 or 2 as pet then it's look like pets...if you buy over 10 or 20 evenyou have license, sure Perhilitan keep on eye on you.

Perhilitan OK if you don't do anything wrong...!!
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Do you know which shop/seller has a lot of licensed tortoise for sale?

Also how sure are we that the receipt is valid and Perhilitan ppl wont buat kacau?
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post Jul 28 2010, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jul 28 2010, 02:49 PM)
Do you know which shop/seller has a lot of licensed tortoise for sale?

Also how sure are we that the receipt is valid and Perhilitan ppl wont buat kacau?
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when you in the shop to buy, call Perhilitan ( so make sure you shopping at working hours that Perhilitan open ) at receipt there is code number of they license permit selling of toertoise, when you call Perhilitan you tell them which shop berhad and number code what so ever Perhilitan will know if shop legally selling tort
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That way you won't get cheated also when you buy snakes and monitor lizard or birds, that need license as well.

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auhckw
post Jul 28 2010, 04:05 PM

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Why is Perhilitan not responding?
http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/137923

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Much has ben written about the proposed new law offering greater protection to wild animals, particularly those in captivity.

On the face of it the new law holds much to look forward to. Things can only improve. But, wait a minute.

What makes anyone think things will improve from even the low standard of animal welfare already existing in Malaysia? If our experience is anything to go by, nothing much, if anything, will change for the better and animals will continue to be trafficked and abused right under the noses of enforcement officials.

The existing Protection of Wildlife Act 1972 provides the Department for Wildlife and National Parks (Perhilitan) with ample opportunity to clamp down on illegal wildlife trading and the abuse of animals in zoos. It does neither.

Even the highly critical National Geographic magazine report in January of this year failed to prod Perhilitan into action, possibly because Perhilitan itself was openly exposed as being at best incompetent, at worst, very sympathetic to those who break the law.

Since January of this year, Nature Alert has filed no less than six detailed, critical reports on conditions in zoos in Malaysia. None have been acted upon.

We have sought help from the Public Complaints Bureau who on the face of it whilst supportive, they have been unsuccessful in persuading Perhilitan to respond to the reports and additional criticisms of how they operate.

Dozens of people have reported their concerns about Perhilitan to the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC), who, worryingly, seemingly have failed to investigate the reports. If MACC cannot be trusted, who in government can?

Minister Douglas Embas has been kept fully aware of the growing public concern regarding Perhilitan but he also refuses to respond to complaints. One can only wonder why.

How does this all bode for the future? Not good. In fact, it looks very bad for wildlife, particularly those animals and birds unfortunate to be already incarcerated in zoos and wild animal parks.

If Perhilitan will not enforce even the existing wildlife law (and it does not), what hope is there the department would even consider enforcing a new law?

All the evidence to date suggests it will be 'business as usual' for the illegal wildlife traders and zoos – sometimes one and the same thing.

A sad prospect for those Malaysians who do care and international visitors who often find the sight of animals clearly suffering in zoos to be very upsetting.
lazypapa
post Jul 28 2010, 04:18 PM

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hi all,
just to share mines...

brought it last saturday! ^^

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yes, i think the water is not deep enuff tongue.gif
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auhckw
post Jul 28 2010, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(lazypapa @ Jul 28 2010, 04:18 PM)
yes, i think the water is not deep enuff  tongue.gif
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I once had this aquarium... at least 15 years ago...

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lazypapa
post Jul 28 2010, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jul 28 2010, 04:40 PM)
I once had this aquarium... at least 15 years ago...
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wow, quite some times alr blink.gif
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QUOTE(Blutangskink @ Jul 28 2010, 08:57 AM)
You can always buy from registered seller or shop, they have license to sale tortoise, and makesure keep the receipt.

If you only buy 1 or 2 as pet then it's look like pets...if you buy over 10 or 20 evenyou have license, sure Perhilitan keep on eye on you.

Perhilitan OK if you don't do anything wrong...!!
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Not quite true, if u know friends who are tortoise enthusiasts, you will see that they obtain a few of each species as pets and keep them separately..they may start off with 2-3 but then it grows on you after some time and they can end up having easily 30+ at home...
Imagine 6 leopards, 8 stars, 8 radiatas, 2 cherry head, 5 spiders, 4 sulcatas, 4 RES, 2 pancake, 3 emys etc...almost 40...
Does not mean they are traders, chelonians arent so difficult to keep, you just need space and someone to take care of them..and of course the right diet, lighting and vitamins. tongue.gif

BTW bro, what do u mean when u mentioned permit for stars is out. There is no such thing yet, not officially at least, any newspaper or website stating that? Or u just khabar angin from somebody? Thanks for updating us on this.

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post Jul 29 2010, 12:09 AM

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yeah..in fact I did plan to expand my collection..initially will start with 2 sulcata/star..then radiata mb..and yeah..leopard.. ;p

I guess newbie like me will be safer to get an official confirmation on Perhilitan permit b4 i buy IST..bt if its too long..fuh..I have no patience..

and if any of the "expert" out thr wanted to sell IST..let me know..thanks ;p
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QUOTE(neTToboy @ Jul 29 2010, 12:09 AM)
yeah..in fact I did plan to expand my collection..initially will start with 2 sulcata/star..then radiata mb..and yeah..leopard.. ;p

I guess newbie like me will be safer to get an official confirmation on Perhilitan permit b4 i buy IST..bt if its too long..fuh..I have no patience..

and if any of the "expert" out thr wanted to sell IST..let me know..thanks ;p
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Are you waiting for them to confirm they are going to give out permits easily or are you waiting for them to remove the law? hmm.gif
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post Jul 29 2010, 08:53 AM

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If your address in KL...yes permit out.
If you only declared Cites 2 tortoise...yes permit out.

To make sure your name on it call 0390866911


Added on July 29, 2010, 9:07 amPerhilitan won't just simply think you trader...But If you keep more than 10, they keep on eye on your collection.

Permit not mean for sale, buy to make sure they have record how many they sensus and people keep cites tortoise in Malaysia.

It doesn't matter you can keep them forever, but you just can't sale them ever.


Added on July 29, 2010, 10:51 am
Visit Chelonia Mydas in Sri Lanka.


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The best way to love this Creature is go and visit where they are....Enjoy the pictures..!



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auhckw
post Jul 29 2010, 11:22 AM

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Turtle: I am sad

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post Jul 29 2010, 11:58 AM

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Hahaha...that's cute, turtle sad coz too fat...?!? Hehehe
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jul 29 2010, 07:59 AM)
Are  you waiting for them to confirm they are going to give out permits easily or are you waiting for them to remove the law?  hmm.gif
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yeah I'm waiting for them 2 gv out permit easily rclxms.gif

Blutangskink: U sure at KL area will get permit..yeah..I live in PJ...I thought from previous post yal mention they won't gv out permit for IST? Thanks for that number.. biggrin.gif


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post Jul 29 2010, 02:25 PM

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I didn't say that...I only follow instruction what Perhilitan asked to declared...if they didn't give you permit, that's not my department to say....

Call them...
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QUOTE(Blutangskink @ Jul 29 2010, 08:53 AM)
If your address in KL...yes permit out.
If you only declared Cites 2 tortoise...yes permit out.

To make sure your name on it call 0390866911


Added on July 29, 2010, 9:07 amPerhilitan won't just simply think you trader...But If you keep more than 10, they keep on eye on your collection.

Permit not mean for sale, buy to make sure they have record how many they sensus and people keep cites tortoise in Malaysia.

It doesn't matter you can keep them forever, but you just can't sale them ever.


Added on July 29, 2010, 10:51 am
Visit Chelonia Mydas in Sri Lanka.
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The best way to love this Creature is go and visit where they are....Enjoy the pictures..!
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wow! thts huge!
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post Jul 29 2010, 03:09 PM

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The biggest turtle that i've touched
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That is cool....!!!
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post Jul 29 2010, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jul 29 2010, 03:09 PM)
The biggest turtle that i've touched
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where is it? ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(lazypapa @ Jul 29 2010, 05:47 PM)
where is it? ohmy.gif
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Somewhere in Bali. Cannot remember the exact place. Have to sit boat to see those turtles. A lot turtles there.
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QUOTE(Blutangskink @ Jul 29 2010, 08:53 AM)
If your address in KL...yes permit out.
If you only declared Cites 2 tortoise...yes permit out.

To make sure your name on it call 0390866911


Added on July 29, 2010, 9:07 amPerhilitan won't just simply think you trader...But If you keep more than 10, they keep on eye on your collection.

Permit not mean for sale, buy to make sure they have record how many they sensus and people keep cites tortoise in Malaysia.

It doesn't matter you can keep them forever, but you just can't sale them ever.


Added on July 29, 2010, 10:51 am
Visit Chelonia Mydas in Sri Lanka.
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The best way to love this Creature is go and visit where they are....Enjoy the pictures..!
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omg sooooo cute....i wish mine were dat big......

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