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brianklc
post May 27 2010, 09:23 AM

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Until to date 30+ ppl sign the SPA...

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post May 27 2010, 01:53 PM

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yes indeed brian, forget about those non panel bank for this project, they reponse slow like turtles!

according to bryan, 40+ signed the spa, 30 buyers bank for ocbc. intermediate lot left g3 and d22, corner lot left 3units.

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post May 27 2010, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(raul @ May 27 2010, 01:53 PM)
yes indeed brian, forget about those non panel bank for this project, they reponse slow like turtles!

according to bryan, 40+ signed the spa, 30 buyers bank for ocbc. intermediate lot left g3 and d22, corner lot left 3units.
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Hi Raul, do u have any idea when the ACTUAL construction started?
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post May 27 2010, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(charlieyee @ May 27 2010, 04:47 PM)
Hi Raul, do u have any idea when the ACTUAL construction started?
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the foundation works start next month, today i saw their general workers start to build their hostel at the site oledi.


Added on May 28, 2010, 12:43 pmbtw, bare in mind that the SPA doesn't include the clause of foc 1 year security fees!


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post May 28 2010, 03:10 PM

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btw, bare in mind that the SPA doesn't include the clause of foc 1 year security fees!
If so, how would the purchasers be guaranteed FOC 1st year security?

BTW, anyone know how the security would be? E.g. house owners are provided with remote controls, camera at guardhouse, etc.

When I was there to view the unit, I overheard a verbal promise from sales person that security at DB would be same as BSL - you have your own remote triggers. However, given that every sales person says different thing, I wonder how would the owners be assured of such promises? I personally find BSL's security is quite admirable.
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QUOTE(keigo2010 @ May 28 2010, 03:10 PM)
If so, how would the purchasers be guaranteed FOC 1st year security?

BTW, anyone know how the security would be? E.g. house owners are provided with remote controls, camera at guardhouse, etc.

When I was there to view the unit, I overheard a verbal promise from sales person that security at DB would be same as BSL - you have your own remote triggers. However, given that every sales person says different thing, I wonder how would the owners be assured of such promises? I personally find BSL's security is quite admirable.
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post May 28 2010, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(keigo2010 @ May 28 2010, 03:10 PM)
If so, how would the purchasers be guaranteed FOC 1st year security?

BTW, anyone know how the security would be? E.g. house owners are provided with remote controls, camera at guardhouse, etc.

When I was there to view the unit, I overheard a verbal promise from sales person that security at DB would be same as BSL - you have your own remote triggers. However, given that every sales person says different thing, I wonder how would the owners be assured of such promises? I personally find BSL's security is quite admirable.
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The SPA is general ones, means the lawyer will use this format for other housing projects..i think i did not come across tht the spa got mention anything abt G&G n playground also, hence not to worry too much abt this..PBSB is a reputable developer and with its brouchure mentioned abt all these, they are liable to fulfill all..

Abt the security, bryan had mentioned tht they will be using access cards..but i really hoped tht cctv and 1,2,3 (As mentioned in my previus posts) are also provided to add value to the properties here..
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post May 28 2010, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(raul @ May 27 2010, 05:49 PM)


Added on May 28, 2010, 12:43 pmbtw, bare in mind that the SPA doesn't include the clause of foc 1 year security fees!
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beside SPA, got DMC or not??
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post May 28 2010, 11:40 PM

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Does BSL n Taming residents signed DMC?
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post May 29 2010, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(brianklc @ May 28 2010, 11:40 PM)
Does BSL n Taming residents signed DMC?
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don't know about taming, but wira heights & Admiral park @ sg long ada tongue.gif

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post May 30 2010, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ May 29 2010, 12:11 AM)
don't know about taming, but wira heights & Admiral park @ sg long ada tongue.gif
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Since DB is not strata titled...DMC is not needed... or else there will be sinking funds and maintenance fees to be charged by developer.
DB community can form their management after 1 year and then the agreement of all tenants can be developed from there....
In my view individual titled is better than strata titled property.. do you have strata titled property?

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post May 30 2010, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(TokyoBoy @ May 30 2010, 02:23 AM)
Since DB is not strata titled...DMC is not needed... or else there will be sinking funds and maintenance fees to be charged by developer.
DB community can form their management after 1 year and then the agreement of all tenants can be developed from there....
In my view individual titled is better than strata titled property.. do you have strata titled property?
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exactly the case for DB.
if strata title with dmc = better security = higher maintenance fees...

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QUOTE(raul @ May 30 2010, 02:28 AM)
exactly the case for DB.
if strata title with dmc = better security = higher maintenance fees...
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Hi all, I have set up a community discussion board for DB4 residents only, please feel free to post any comments..

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1440270

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post May 30 2010, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(TokyoBoy @ May 30 2010, 02:23 AM)
Since DB is not strata titled...DMC is not needed... or else there will be sinking funds and maintenance fees to be charged by developer.
DB community can form their management after 1 year and then the agreement of all tenants can be developed from there....
In my view individual titled is better than strata titled property.. do you have strata titled property?
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Wira Heights also with individual title issued, still they got DMC.

how to claimed the development is G&G if without DMC??
if the occupancy rate is low after 1 year, do u think the owners will still pay for the fees without any contract/ agreement? it'll eventually become normal link house development with "pondok sekurity" just like those DSL in BMC.

QUOTE(raul @ May 30 2010, 02:28 AM)
exactly the case for DB.
if strata title with dmc = better security = higher maintenance fees...
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higher maintenance fees is not much a concern for house buyer who can afford paying 4-500k for DSL, but GOOD security & environment is. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(skng03 @ May 30 2010, 09:30 PM)
Wira Heights also with individual title issued, still they got DMC.

how to claimed the development is G&G if without DMC??
if the occupancy rate is low after 1 year, do u think the owners will still pay for the fees without any contract/ agreement? it'll eventually become normal link house development with "pondok sekurity"  just like those DSL in BMC.
higher maintenance fees is not much a concern for house buyer who can afford paying 4-500k for DSL, but GOOD security & environment is. tongue.gif
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I think the purchasers of DB are thanksful for your kind concern..However, since you have so much questions, y not u juz pass ur questions to the developer directly? Their number is 90802988/2989. I have seen ur other posts in other topics, it seems tht most of ur posts are -ve ones, especially those in regards to sg long...creating questions without any suggestions for solutions...mind telling me how you know the utar is moving out of sg long since all other news had mentioned tht utar had bought over the building in sg long? Ur comments on police is very entertaining as well...

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post May 31 2010, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(brianklc @ May 30 2010, 11:41 PM)
I think the purchasers of DB are thanksful for your kind concern..However, since you have so much questions, y not u juz pass ur questions to the developer directly? Their number is 90802988/2989. I have seen ur other posts in other topics, it seems tht most of ur posts are -ve ones, especially those in regards to sg long...creating questions without any suggestions for solutions...mind telling me how you know the utar is moving out of sg long since all other news had mentioned tht utar had bought over the building in sg long? Ur comments on police is very entertaining as well...
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i'm just telling the facts, unlike some one keep on promoting/ hard sell here shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

i tot forum are mean for sharing regardless of -ve / +ve.
yes i'm -ve on sg long after living here for > than 10 years, the infra here never upgrade, the only road here already reach its limits. Can' imaging how it coupe with so many new development, esp your DB is deep inside sg long.

for the utar, does its anyway related to this thread?? alto. they bot. the building, i haven't see any increase on no. of student here and this will not have any effect/ benefit to DB too.

since when i "comment" on police hmm.gif wink.gif

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QUOTE(skng03 @ May 30 2010, 09:30 PM)
Wira Heights also with individual title issued, still they got DMC.

how to claimed the development is G&G if without DMC??
if the occupancy rate is low after 1 year, do u think the owners will still pay for the fees without any contract/ agreement? it'll eventually become normal link house development with "pondok sekurity"  just like those DSL in BMC.
higher maintenance fees is not much a concern for house buyer who can afford paying 4-500k for DSL, but GOOD security & environment is. tongue.gif
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hi i think you understand me wrong..

for strata titled land.. DMC is compulsory as for individual titled land.. DMC is not needed but it can be optional.
G&G not necessary need to be DMC. It is not a cumpulsory for G&G to have DMC then only can can claim to be G&G.
Whether the occupancy is high or low it has nothing to do whether to have a contract or no contract. They still able to form an RA and to engage a management company to maintain that area. The difference is the cost for it would be higher since it is shared by smaller community. Usually who to engage for the management of the area depends on the outcome of the RA meeting. Tenants still able to continue the service provided by management that engaged by the developer if they think the company is doing their job well and the cost is reasonable. During that time, new contract will be formed but if there is any dispute over the cost charge, tenants have the right to change or engage any other better management company where the latter case usually refer to strata titled property.


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QUOTE(skng03 @ May 31 2010, 01:09 AM)
i'm just telling the facts, unlike some one keep on promoting/ hard sell here shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

i tot forum are mean for sharing regardless of -ve / +ve.
yes i'm -ve on sg long after living here for > than 10 years, the infra here never upgrade, the only road here already reach its limits. Can' imaging how it coupe with so many new development, esp your DB is deep inside sg long.

for the utar, does its anyway related to this thread?? alto. they bot. the building, i haven't see any increase on no. of student here and this will not have any effect/ benefit to DB too.

since when i "comment" on police hmm.gif  wink.gif
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Facts need to come with data and support of evidence and it is proven but opinions need not.
so yours is whether opinion or fact ... forumers able to judge on it.

Living there for more than 10 years is a fact but that doesn't mean that you able to tell the future but ofcoz you can predict it based on your 10 years tenant there.
Past 10 years never upgrade doesn't mean it will never upgrade forever. Whether the road here already reach limit .. nobody can judge because things change everyday.. I dont dare to make conclusion it had reached the limit. How the new development in Sg.Long will change..y not just lets sit back and see it together..if it ever change..


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post May 31 2010, 01:50 AM

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as i mention on previous post, cost is not a big issue on this "premium" DSL.

yes resident can form RA but RA can't force every owner to paid without any agreement aka. DMC. To be fair to every purchaser, why not the developer made it easier for RA by doing it from day one, not throwing it to RA after 1 year.


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QUOTE(skng03 @ May 31 2010, 01:50 AM)
as i mention on previous post, cost is not a big issue on this "premium" DSL.

yes resident can form RA but RA can't force every owner to paid without any agreement aka. DMC. To be fair to every purchaser, why not the developer made it easier for RA by doing it from day one, not throwing it to RA after 1 year.
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it is the same.. for individual titled property.. purchasers are not compulsory to sign any DMC and they still has the right not to pay anything and management still cannot force everyone to pay.
Flexibility...democracy...after 1 year all tenants has the right to choose their preference and exercise their right.

I would not like to discuss the pros and cons of individual titled landed Vs strata titled landed in this thread because there is already a thread for this.
Each piece of development is unique and can't be compared directly regardless whether it is individual or strata.

This thread is merely for the future purchasers or potential investor to share their concerns, opinion and wish list for their future home. This thread is the platform of communication between all the tenants.

I believe there are still a lot of property out there other than this which can meet your requirements because it seems like you are attracted to strata titled landed property or property with DMC binded agreement ... and the fact that DB is already not..
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QUOTE(raul @ May 27 2010, 01:53 PM)
yes indeed brian, forget about those non panel bank for this project, they reponse slow like turtles!

according to bryan, 40+ signed the spa, 30 buyers bank for ocbc. intermediate lot left g3 and d22, corner lot left 3units.
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Is the intermediate lot still available?
facing SE or NW ?

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