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Hardware The New MacBook/MacBook Pro/Air Users Thread v5, Share your joy and your pain here ;)

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knizam556
post May 2 2010, 10:28 PM

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hi guys,

i planning to buy MBP online and this my 1st Mac.
did you guys buy MBP together with ACPP or your guys not buy it.
any suggestion or advise?
tarvalslain87
post May 2 2010, 11:37 PM

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Depends on you actually... Some do buy together but I didnt buy... Due to you still can purchase it within the 1 year warranty as long as its not expired you will get the extra 2 years warranty. I didnt buy it when I bought mine is due to I can put the extra cash into somewhere more useful for me... =)

So its up to you..
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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ May 2 2010, 11:37 PM)
Depends on you actually... Some do buy together but I didnt buy... Due to you still can purchase it within the 1 year warranty as long as its not expired you will get the extra 2 years warranty. I didnt buy it when I bought mine is due to I can put the extra cash into somewhere more useful for me... =)

So its up to you..
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If i buy later , will it cost me more or its just the same ?
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post May 3 2010, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(frozzbyte @ May 2 2010, 11:12 AM)
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In what way a windows virus can affect OSX files? This you need to understand a virus characteristic. It delivers a payload once executed or the condition in right and target the system vulnerability. Windows and OSX have different vulnerability i.e. different kernel, file system etc. What is an executable in windows is not in OSX. So the virus can't execute it's command in OSX where it's not familiar with. A virus exploit the system vulnerabilities.

On the other hand, we can see that OSX is getting a foothold on the computer industries compared to like 10 years ago. OSX user base have grown a substantial numbers, so I would not be surprised if there would be "viruses" written specifically for OSX in the near future. The anti-virus industry is a big money thing. Last time, the OSX user is so small that it's not beneficial or profitable to virus writers or anti-virus companies (which sometimes I think writes these viruses - hahaha conspiracy theory).
p/s - I stand corrected. A quick google on Mac OS X viruses shows a few viruses for OSX already circulating i.e. HellRaiser Trojanhorse aka OSX/HellRTS.D (http://www.securemac.com/hellrtsd.php). Like any trojanhorse, user need to execute the virus first to release the payload.

Another virus Leap-A (probably written as a proof of concept) spread thru iChat IM (http://news.techworld.com/security/5392/worlds-first-os-x-virus-hits-apple/).

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thx for the long long reply haha. but ya i know the virus is unexecutable on OSX. that's why i'm asking about bootcamp or VM

bootcamp 3.0 can access n write on the mac partition right? so does that mean the files in Mac HD can get infected by virus? let's say i'm in bootcamp in windows 7, somehow caught a virus, and the virus infected a file named random.pdf, which is located in Mac HD. then i boot back in OSX, i email the random.pdf to a windows friend, and he'll get the virus too. am i correct?

same thing with VM. lets say i shared my Pictures folder in VM. and somehow i caught a virus in windows. can the virus infect the files in the shared folder? and same thing lah...if i email the files (regardless in OSX or windows) to a windows friend, they can get infected?

QUOTE(izact @ May 2 2010, 06:12 PM)
hehehe..there is nothing wrong of having folders on the same partition..it's just that i had been using windows for years..and the traumas of losing files and corrupted data when windows crashed still rings the bell..ive been asking a lot bout this partitioning that ive come to solution now as advised..thanks guys..

1 thing though..can i run applications or games that were installed on MAC from WINDOWS or the other way around?
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lol. consider a backup system, much much better than doing partition hehe. windows crash nevermind....what if ur HDD kaput? u got 10 partition also all will be gone. dead HDDs are more common than what u're probably thinking

applications n games for mac n windows are totally different. as u know, windows use .exe and mac uses .app. windows cannot open .app and OSX cannot open .exe. the only way to do this is using virtual machines. there's a thread about Parallel Desktop, VMWare Fusion here, i recommend u go check it out smile.gif

QUOTE(lexcorp @ May 3 2010, 02:12 AM)
If i buy later , will it cost me more or its just the same ?
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ACPP price is the same. juz make sure u dont forget to buy later

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post May 3 2010, 10:00 AM

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WTF !!! delays !!!

bought it on 27th ! not for me for my gf !

my MBP late 2007 got stolen recently sad.gif bought it around 8600RM : (


i still like old classic design ! its genuis !



May 02, 2010 20:18 Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia Clearance delay - Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia
May 01, 2010 20:21 Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia Clearance delay - Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia
Apr 30, 2010 20:36 Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia Clearance delay - Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia
Apr 29, 2010 21:19 Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia Clearance delay - Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia
Apr 29, 2010 06:07 Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia Processed for clearance - Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia
Apr 29, 2010 06:07 Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia Clearance delay - Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia
Apr 28, 2010 18:49 Singapore - Singapore Arrived at sort facility - Singapore - Singapore
Apr 28, 2010 18:34 Singapore - Singapore Departed from facility - Singapore - Singapore
Apr 28, 2010 18:34 Singapore - Singapore Processed - Singapore - Singapore
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More and more people are getting the MBPs and delay should be usual now. Just have to wait a little longer and you will get it =)

Normally they will send in your MBP within the specified date that they gave you during your purchase.
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labour day + weekend. Mine was delay too. Just wait for it la.

There are plenty of older MBP on sale in the garage.
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can anyone assist me on how to setup my company's exchange email on MAC? i've tried using the exchange 2007 but still failed. have i overlooked sumthing? but the exchange email works fine on my iPhone..the only different is that on the iPhone it requires domain but not on mac..can somebody help??
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ May 3 2010, 02:42 AM)
thx for the long long reply haha. but ya i know the virus is unexecutable on OSX. that's why i'm asking about bootcamp or VM

bootcamp 3.0 can access n write on the mac partition right? so does that mean the files in Mac HD can get infected by virus? let's say i'm in bootcamp in windows 7, somehow caught a virus, and the virus infected a file named random.pdf, which is located in Mac HD. then i boot back in OSX, i email the random.pdf to a windows friend, and he'll get the virus too. am i correct?

same thing with VM. lets say i shared my Pictures folder in VM. and somehow i caught a virus in windows. can the virus infect the files in the shared folder? and same thing lah...if i email the files (regardless in OSX or windows) to a windows friend, they can get infected?
If bootcamp have direct/full access to mac partition, then the example random.pdf (but mostly would be *.exe files) thats been infected/modified by the virus would be transmitted to your friend if you email/passed on to him. This is more like a trojan horse then virus, since it needs human intervention. Viruses will only propagate and spread itself if you're on your windows thru bootcamp/vmware/parallels. That's why you need to use antivirus on bootcamp/vmware/parallels even on Apple Mac system (not the OS X itself). If you sent an infected file, regardless from OS X or Windows, the other party using windows will get caught.

If you read the article from macforensicslab.com, there's a definition on what is virus, trojan horse and worms.

So ... careful when sending stuff to your windows friend. Kesian sama dia. biggrin.gif . That's why I disabled windows having full access to OS X partition in parallels.

p/s - The links and article I posted is to share that Mac/OS X are not virus free. In fact the first virus created was for Mac back in those days. So if Apple evangelist still say that Mac do not have viruses, they are wrong. Only that viruses for OS X is not as rampant as those in windows.
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smile.gif I usually say there's not much point in having antivirus for consumers... businesses have liability... so I'd have no comment there smile.gif

give the Apple evangelist some chance also ler... some of them also newbie smile.gif
just blindly trust the training / trainer ...
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All 2010 13" MBP user please see this !

I am experiencing very high CPU usage when playing some Flash Games in FaceBook (games like cafe world)

I am using Safari 4.0.5 and everything updated to the latest ! i even tried running Firefox but still CPU usage high !

CPU high usage that makes my Temperature goes up till 70C ! Even the FAN turning fast and loud ... mad.gif mad.gif

Please go ahead and try ! any solutions?

see my screenshots
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post May 3 2010, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(cscheat @ May 3 2010, 05:41 PM)
All 2010 13" MBP user please see this !

I am experiencing very high CPU usage when playing some Flash Games in FaceBook (games like cafe world)

I am using Safari 4.0.5 and everything updated to the latest ! i even tried running Firefox but still CPU usage high !

CPU high usage that makes my Temperature goes up till 70C ! Even the FAN turning fast and loud ...  mad.gif  mad.gif

Please go ahead and try ! any solutions?

see my screenshots
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Read: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
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That's normal when using flash on OS X. OS X and Adobe Flash does not mix very well. That's why Apple really pushing HTML5 to replace Flash. Now even youtube is slowly migrating to HTML5.

So to answer your Q, no solutions ... for now (maybe after Adobe release the new flash that uses hardware decoding).
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post May 3 2010, 06:24 PM

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There are, but in beta. And only for supported macs.
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

Use at your own risk.
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QUOTE(wei @ May 3 2010, 07:03 PM)
QUOTE(frozzbyte @ May 3 2010, 07:04 PM)
@cscheat
That's normal when using flash on OS X. OS X and Adobe Flash does not mix very well. That's why Apple really pushing HTML5 to replace Flash. Now even youtube is slowly migrating to HTML5.

So to answer your Q, no solutions ... for now (maybe after Adobe release the new flash that uses hardware decoding).
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QUOTE(wei @ May 3 2010, 07:24 PM)
There are, but in beta. And only for supported macs.
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

Use at your own risk.
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So only solution is to wait HTML 5 ?
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QUOTE(dani4wd @ May 3 2010, 10:00 AM)
WTF !!! delays !!!

bought it on 27th ! not for me for my gf !

my MBP late 2007 got stolen recently sad.gif bought it around 8600RM : (
i still like old classic design ! its genuis !
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wow sorry to hear that sad.gif i like the old speaker grill and power on button... classy

QUOTE(frozzbyte @ May 3 2010, 02:41 PM)
If bootcamp have direct/full access to mac partition, then the example random.pdf (but mostly would be *.exe files) thats been infected/modified by the virus would be transmitted to your friend if you email/passed on to him. This is more like a trojan horse then virus, since it needs human intervention. Viruses will only propagate and spread itself if you're on your windows thru bootcamp/vmware/parallels. That's why you need to use antivirus on bootcamp/vmware/parallels even on Apple Mac system (not the OS X itself). If you sent an infected file, regardless from OS X or Windows, the other party using windows will get caught.

If you read the article from macforensicslab.com, there's a definition on what is virus, trojan horse and worms.

So ... careful when sending stuff to your windows friend. Kesian sama dia.  biggrin.gif . That's why I disabled windows having full access to OS X partition in parallels.

p/s - The links and article I posted is to share that Mac/OS X are not virus free. In fact the first virus created was for Mac back in those days. So if Apple evangelist still say that Mac do not have viruses, they are wrong. Only that viruses for OS X is not as rampant as those in windows.
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thanks for the confirmation. haha true also, too long on OSX i forgot the difference between virus, trojan n worm dy tongue.gif im just using windows security essentials on my XP VM..hopefully it's okay

cscheat ur temp 70C? in ur screenshot it says 39C only tongue.gif 70C is pretty normal when under load
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personally i juz use DownThemAll extension for firefox. good: no need to run another application juz to handle downloads. bad: i always accidentally quit firefox forgetting that i have a download running tongue.gif

for a standalone app my favourite is speed download 5
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QUOTE(dani4wd @ May 3 2010, 10:00 AM)
WTF !!! delays !!!

bought it on 27th ! not for me for my gf !

my MBP late 2007 got stolen recently sad.gif bought it around 8600RM : (
i still like old classic design ! its genuis !
May 02, 2010      20:18      Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia      Clearance delay - Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia
May 01, 2010    20:21    Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia    Clearance delay - Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia
Apr 30, 2010    20:36    Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia    Clearance delay - Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia
Apr 29, 2010    21:19    Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia    Clearance delay - Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia
Apr 29, 2010    06:07    Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia    Processed for clearance - Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia
Apr 29, 2010    06:07    Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia    Clearance delay - Subang - Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah - Malaysia
Apr 28, 2010    18:49    Singapore - Singapore    Arrived at sort facility - Singapore - Singapore
Apr 28, 2010    18:34    Singapore - Singapore    Departed from facility - Singapore - Singapore
Apr 28, 2010    18:34    Singapore - Singapore    Processed - Singapore - Singapore
Apr 28, 2010    14:36    Singapore - Singapore    Shipment picked up - Singapore - Singapor
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Sorry to hear ur lost, bro. For ur new MBP, coming soon, i would like to suggest u to install prey from preyproject for mac. this'll enhance ur chance on getting back any stolen pc or notebook. Of course if prey is installed.

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