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Hardware The New MacBook/MacBook Pro/Air Users Thread v5, Share your joy and your pain here ;)

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viper-xs
post Apr 29 2010, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Apr 29 2010, 12:23 PM)
aiks.. forget to check that.. last nite when comp very slow.. forgot to see.. btw.. now pg in and out is 18gb and 2gb...

what value is healthy?
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Pg out 2GB? I guess you must be doing alot of videos/pictures editing is it? Pg out the best would be 0 ideally then again as low as possible. Try reboot and monitor all your stats including pg out especially. In long run with constant pg out is not healthy as it is sort of like thrashing the disk. With high pg outs means I need to use alot of your disk to swap things out.
If you run alot of editing maybe you can compare your stats with other regular here as I only use mine for browsing, some picture editing (but nothing fancy), iTunes, games, iChat, torrent and other normal stuff.

Can try to detect any programs with memory leak?
I would recommend reboot and check the memory usage. Then use is as normal and check again.

Your wired seems high though but that's just my opinion. Those if Im not mistaken are the ones being used by the system so it will stay in memory resident and will not be swapped in/out. Mine running snow leopard with wired ~450MB. Otherwise all other stats give looks ok.


There are other means of monitor the memory in mac/*nix like vmstat etc just in case you're interested.
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post Apr 29 2010, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(snowyy @ Apr 29 2010, 08:26 AM)
yeah!
I hope can get it today too. It's take almost 48 hours for clearance  sad.gif
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Just called DHL. They said that they will only send the batch of shipment to johor tonight. Means the earliest I can get is by tomorrow morning cry.gif


Added on April 29, 2010, 3:37 pm
QUOTE(Ballz8787 @ Apr 29 2010, 10:42 AM)
Mine is here already smile.gif woohooo!

The DHL personnel that dealt with me called earlier to confirm the arrival.

Haha guess i've been complaining to them to much.
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Are we from the same shipment from Singapore?

This post has been edited by lancefire: Apr 29 2010, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(viper-xs @ Apr 29 2010, 01:42 PM)
Pg out 2GB? I guess you must be doing alot of videos/pictures editing is it? Pg out the best would be 0 ideally then again as low as possible. Try reboot and monitor all your stats including pg out especially. In long run with constant pg out is not healthy as it is sort of like thrashing the disk. With high pg outs means I need to use alot of your disk to swap things out.
If you run alot of editing maybe you can compare your stats with other regular here as I only use mine for browsing, some picture editing (but nothing fancy), iTunes, games, iChat, torrent and other normal stuff.

Can try to detect any programs with memory leak?
I would recommend reboot and check the memory usage. Then use is as normal and check again.

Your wired seems high though but that's just my opinion. Those if Im not mistaken are the ones being used by the system so it will stay in memory resident and will not be swapped in/out. Mine running snow leopard with wired ~450MB. Otherwise all other stats give looks ok.
There are other means of monitor the memory in mac/*nix like vmstat etc just in case you're interested.
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thx viper notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

yea.. i do photo editing heavily.. and i always open about 2 browsers with total of 15-25 tabs.. sweat.gif itunes playing mp3.. stickies showing some stuffs.. sometimes also running MAMP and Dreamweaver..

but high page out will cause the HDD crash faster? is there anyway to solve it? add ramh? sad.gif
and how to know about memory leak?


Added on April 29, 2010, 6:33 pmand anybody know why some fonts can be seen in Windows but when copy to Mac will face some error and unable to use?

This post has been edited by mememe12: Apr 29 2010, 06:33 PM
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post Apr 29 2010, 06:39 PM

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LOL.. i got that error too.. calibri font sth like tat.. but mine can use just tat when u open the file there will be an error message...


Added on April 29, 2010, 6:42 pmLOL.. i got that error too.. calibri font sth like tat.. but mine can use just tat when u open the file there will be an error message...

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post Apr 29 2010, 09:36 PM

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got mine finally smile.gif. pimping it up soon
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anybody know where to download driver for page pro 1350w konica minolta printer?
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i'm a totally mac newbie but i'm planning to get a macbook pro asap. aiming for the 13" one. is it ok if i buy from forumers in lowyat? how to check whether it's original or not? can i send back to shops like machine/mac city to repair if it happens to have any problem?
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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Apr 29 2010, 06:22 PM)
thx viper  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

yea.. i do photo editing heavily.. and i always open about 2 browsers with total of 15-25 tabs.. sweat.gif itunes playing mp3.. stickies showing some stuffs.. sometimes also running MAMP and Dreamweaver..

but high page out will cause the HDD crash faster? is there anyway to solve it? add ramh? sad.gif
and how to know about memory leak?


Added on April 29, 2010, 6:33 pmand anybody know why some fonts can be seen in Windows but when copy to Mac will face some error and unable to use?
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page out happens when ur RAM is full. no more space, so it has to temporarily transfer (page out) the data to ur harddisk. this contributes to lag. it doesnt necessarily make HDD die faster, juz that more file transfer between RAM n HDD is going on

yes, more RAM would solve it. memory leak can use activity monitor
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oh, i found the apple online store already. is it cheaper to order from there? sorry for asking newbie questions. icon_question.gif

and if i get a macbook and i want to link it to my desktop monitor, must i get extra cables? is the cables to connect included in the box? i'm using a samsung monitor.

and seems like they don't have speakers/headphone for macbook. can i use ipod headphone to link to my macbook?

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post Apr 30 2010, 12:52 AM

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same price.. or student price with rm300 lesser blink.gif

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QUOTE(jonrwg @ Apr 29 2010, 06:39 PM)
LOL.. i got that error too.. calibri font sth like tat.. but mine can use just tat when u open the file there will be an error message...

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argh.. i m getting frustrated with this! when ppl send me excel file with chinese word.. i open it and end up seeing weird sign.. is there a way to solve this? icon_question.gif

QUOTE(cottonkandy @ Apr 30 2010, 12:41 AM)
oh, i found the apple online store already. is it cheaper to order from there? sorry for asking newbie questions. icon_question.gif
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if u are student.. buy online to get student price.. 13inch MBP cost about 3588 if not mistaken.. safe RM300... smile.gif
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post Apr 30 2010, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(cottonkandy @ Apr 30 2010, 12:41 AM)
oh, i found the apple online store already. is it cheaper to order from there? sorry for asking newbie questions. icon_question.gif
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Fews answers lump together. Can buy anywhere even from forummers here in lyn. All are genuine except I've seen one whereby it looks like Apple on the outside (without apple logo of course) with aluminium look alike etc. Well from what I know all apple product are genuine (except for iphone but you can easily spotted its not genuine)

Many choose apple online store due to these reason mainly:
1) You can customer your mac. Built to order. So you can add more ram, change screen type, change hdd etc
2) If you are a student or work in those field you can get educational discount.
3) If you are comparing it with no changes and no education discount the prices are exactly the same (some retailer can sometimes throw abit of discount but expect it only to be in region of 100-200 and nothing more I think)

You can buy from those shops and the benefit from what I can see or what I know:
1) Some shop have easy payment scheme like 0% interest etc
2) You can get it on the spot most of the time if they have the stock rather than wait for few days for it
3) Some shop throw in freebies like keyboard protector (but don't expect much in this) or have a loyalty card where you can collect point and can use the point to offset your next purchase.
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how do they prove i'm a student?

and if i get a macbook and i want to link it to my desktop monitor, must i get extra cables? is the cables to connect included in the box? i'm using a samsung monitor.

and seems like they don't have speakers/headphone for macbook. can i use ipod headphone to link to my macbook?

This post has been edited by cottonkandy: Apr 30 2010, 01:06 AM
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post Apr 30 2010, 01:04 AM

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Currently the process is that you need to agree terms and conditions that you belong to one of those education stated.
However they will do random check on that and for example they might ask you to fax student card etc. So as long as you are one of those educational group you should be fine.

I think yes, I dont have an ipod but I think it's the same like iphone so yes you can use those. They do sell those all in one headset&mic either in Apple store or apple specialty shop around kl

Yes you can use external monitor but you need to get the cables seperately. It is not included. Depending on the mac you are planning to get but all new ones have mini display port. They have mini display port convertor to VGA or to HDMI. Choose what you have for your Samsung monitor

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ok thx. if i buy via apple online store, where are them shipping the items from? and how long should i take to reach? around 1 week time?
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post Apr 30 2010, 01:10 AM

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From what I know depends on Built To Order (customize) or just a normal ones. They would ship it from Singapore or China. BTO will take abit longer. Expect maybe 1 to one half week. Standard one week should be ok.
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in your case most probably from singapore.
should be at your doorstep in 5 working days, provided your cc transaction went well.
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QUOTE(cottonkandy @ Apr 30 2010, 01:00 AM)
how do they prove i'm a student?

and seems like they don't have speakers/headphone for macbook. can i use ipod headphone to link to my macbook?


Added on April 30, 2010, 1:01 amhow do they prove i'm a student?

and if i get a macbook and i want to link it to my desktop monitor, must i get extra cables? is the cables to connect included in the box? i'm using a samsung monitor.

and seems like they don't have speakers/headphone for macbook. can i use ipod headphone to link to my macbook?
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speakers/headphones dun have "for macbook". most speakers and headphones use the same 3.5mm jack. cheap rm30 ones, ipod headphone, even rm2k ones, all use the same jack. no matter for notebooks or mp3 players or old walkmans

as far as i know, they dont ask for proof that you're a student

yes u need extra cables. depends what input can your samsung monitor receive. a macbook uses MiniDisplayPort. so for example, you samsung monitor needs DVI, then u need a MiniDisplayPort-to-DVI adapter
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post Apr 30 2010, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Apr 29 2010, 06:22 PM)
thx viper  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

yea.. i do photo editing heavily.. and i always open about 2 browsers with total of 15-25 tabs.. sweat.gif itunes playing mp3.. stickies showing some stuffs.. sometimes also running MAMP and Dreamweaver..

but high page out will cause the HDD crash faster? is there anyway to solve it? add ramh? sad.gif
and how to know about memory leak?


Added on April 29, 2010, 6:33 pmand anybody know why some fonts can be seen in Windows but when copy to Mac will face some error and unable to use?
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Yes add more ram. I bet you must be getting beachball alot. Browser will not eat alot as I have around the same tabs opening. I suspect 2GB page out is from mainly heavy photo editing

How to know memory leak, same as windows method. If a program eat 100MB when you first using it and after long usage suddenly it turn out to be eating 500MB then something amiss.
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QUOTE(jonrwg @ Apr 29 2010, 06:39 PM)
LOL.. i got that error too.. calibri font sth like tat.. but mine can use just tat when u open the file there will be an error message...

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argh.. i m getting frustrated with this! when ppl send me excel file with chinese word.. i open it and end up seeing weird sign.. is there a way to solve this? icon_question.gif

QUOTE(cottonkandy @ Apr 30 2010, 12:41 AM)
oh, i found the apple online store already. is it cheaper to order from there? sorry for asking newbie questions. icon_question.gif
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if u are student.. buy online to get student price.. 13inch MBP cost about 3588 if not mistaken.. safe RM300... smile.gif

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