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 Apr 1 2010, 08:18 PM, updated 16y ago
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i have gone gym for half year .initially there is progress as i take protein ..but after i finish taking and nw i am not taking .there was not much progress ..how ? am i too dependable on protein ? and any meal to recommend to replace protein ? as now i have x enough money to buy protein ..pls help ..
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Apr 1 2010, 08:32 PM
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oh gosh... *grab popcorn and races to the front row seat*
show is going to start... =.= |
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Apr 1 2010, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 1 2010, 08:32 PM) oh gosh... *grab popcorn and races to the front row seat* waiting for VIP to come in? PB , darkie or anngrydog perhaps show is going to start... =.=   |
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Apr 1 2010, 09:11 PM
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So misguided, so very misguided.
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Apr 1 2010, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 1 2010, 08:32 PM) oh gosh... *grab popcorn and races to the front row seat* front row hard to watch le...we better shitf to bak row in case gt meteor fall downshow is going to start... =.= |
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Apr 1 2010, 10:53 PM
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guide the noob instead smash the noob....
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Apr 1 2010, 11:44 PM
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Chill guys. Everyone's here to learn. OP, will reply later when more free. =)
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Apr 2 2010, 01:23 AM
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How many eggs you eat per day?
Chicken? Beef? Fish? Post a sample of daily meals! |
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Apr 2 2010, 10:22 AM
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buddy there is a official thread with exactly the same name as ur title. For better response and ans u can go to http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1150206/+2300 .
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Apr 2 2010, 02:36 PM
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just my opinion.
if you are into bodybuilding, i think you need to eat at least 0.75 gram per pound of your bodyweight... because protein help in building muscle and repairing the trained tissue.. if you are just into getting fit, i think you can try to maintain less than that amount. i don't see any reason for you to replace protein. but if you don't wanna grow, then you can replace it. you don't have to buy protein supplement if u are in a tight budget. you can get them protein in food that you can eat everyday, and they are nice to eat also. egg, beef meat, fish, chicken breast, etc etc.. please correct me if i'm wrong. |
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Apr 2 2010, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(xSinner @ Apr 2 2010, 02:36 PM) just my opinion. Actually, 1 - 1.5g per pound of bodyweight is more like it.if you are into bodybuilding, i think you need to eat at least 0.75 gram per pound of your bodyweight... because protein help in building muscle and repairing the trained tissue.. if you are just into getting fit, i think you can try to maintain less than that amount. i don't see any reason for you to replace protein. but if you don't wanna grow, then you can replace it. you don't have to buy protein supplement if u are in a tight budget. you can get them protein in food that you can eat everyday, and they are nice to eat also. egg, beef meat, fish, chicken breast, etc etc.. please correct me if i'm wrong. |
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Apr 2 2010, 04:05 PM
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the best natural protein supply we can get is soy bean, eggs, chicken breast and fish. eat that everyday if u can.
P/s: correct me if I'm wrong guys! |
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Apr 2 2010, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 2 2010, 03:07 PM) Actually, 1 - 1.5g per pound of bodyweight is more like it. oh.. thanks for pointing that out |
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Apr 2 2010, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(alabasta @ Apr 2 2010, 04:05 PM) the best natural protein supply we can get is soy bean, eggs, chicken breast and fish. eat that everyday if u can. No.P/s: correct me if I'm wrong guys! Eggs, beef, lamb, mutton, chicken, fish are much better. |
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Apr 2 2010, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(zaff1991 @ Apr 1 2010, 08:18 PM) i have gone gym for half year .initially there is progress as i take protein ..but after i finish taking and nw i am not taking .there was not much progress ..how ? am i too dependable on protein ? and any meal to recommend to replace protein ? as now i have x enough money to buy protein ..pls help .. Its not just protein shakes that expensive. grocery shopping is expensive too.one question, how much were you buying your protein powder in the first place. I hope its not some fancy schmancy protein thats RM450 for 30 servings or such. In case you're wondering, Mine is RM190 for 70-80 servings. ONs 100% Whey. and if you werent growing in the last 6 months. your diet is messed up. Read this sticky: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/367750 only after reading that, ask more questions. |
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Apr 2 2010, 05:08 PM
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i think its not coz his diet alone.
maybe it could be ur routine sucks. thats why not much growth. by the way, ur starting growth is just beginners gain. so wat u see is actually just a lie. this gets tougher as time goes by coz by then, its harder to pack on muscles compared to beginners gain. =.= |
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Apr 2 2010, 10:14 PM
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nobody mentioned milk?
 google GOMAD! |
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Apr 3 2010, 01:02 AM
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Eggs eggs and eggs.
And eggs. + eggs. Did I mention eggs? |
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Apr 3 2010, 01:04 AM
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yes u did darkie, u mention 5 times. excluding the question. haha
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Apr 16 2010, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 2 2010, 01:23 AM) How many eggs you eat per day? 8 chicken egg ..one tin of tuna ..it is enough /Chicken? Beef? Fish? Post a sample of daily meals! |
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Apr 16 2010, 09:46 PM
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Nop.
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Apr 16 2010, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 1 2010, 08:32 PM) oh gosh... *grab popcorn and races to the front row seat* show is going to start... =.= QUOTE(wi11power @ Apr 1 2010, 10:10 PM) front row hard to watch le...we better shitf to bak row in case gt meteor fall down i dont think such replies are actually constructive. More to spamming@TS: as pointed out earlier, you should replace ur protein with other stuffs with protein like eggs, dead animal meat. Train hard and fix ur nutrition This post has been edited by david890701: Apr 16 2010, 10:16 PM |
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Apr 16 2010, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(zaff1991 @ Apr 16 2010, 09:44 PM) 8 chicken egg ..one tin of tuna ..it is enough / no. |
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Apr 17 2010, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 16 2010, 10:17 PM) no. eggs...i disregarded its effects but i remembered when i was purely bulking last time 20 eggs per day pun you can see effects in 2-3 months |
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Apr 17 2010, 12:24 PM
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lol, it seems like ppl are looking at the amt of eggs instead of looking at the protein that their body needs.
Rule of thumbs, take ur protein 1g to per lbs of ur bodyweight, i take 1.5 when i m cutting. Search in google for the nutrition fact on food, then u will know wat to eat. |
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Apr 17 2010, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(jamis @ Apr 17 2010, 12:24 PM) lol, it seems like ppl are looking at the amt of eggs instead of looking at the protein that their body needs. hahaRule of thumbs, take ur protein 1g to per lbs of ur bodyweight, i take 1.5 when i m cutting. Search in google for the nutrition fact on food, then u will know wat to eat. one egg = roughly 5-6g of protein so kene pandai pandai la makan up to 1-1.5lbs per body weight in lbs but i also take whey 2-3 scoop per day and also beef / chicken / fish and sayur to complete the rest and legumes and raisins and milk and 2-3l of plain water per day and animal pak for vitamins also huhuhu |
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Apr 17 2010, 03:02 PM
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I hit almost 250 grams or more sometimes. Lol. It's tough to do. Supps help a bit.
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Apr 17 2010, 03:49 PM
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Yeah, on workout day is not tat hard, the hard part is during non workout day, 6 meals, 3 hours once.... left with 6hours of sleep? sometime i squeeze it to 5 meals on non workout day.
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Apr 17 2010, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(jamis @ Apr 17 2010, 03:49 PM) Yeah, on workout day is not tat hard, the hard part is during non workout day, 6 meals, 3 hours once.... left with 6hours of sleep? sometime i squeeze it to 5 meals on non workout day. I supplement heavily on whey sometimes to get extra protein in. |
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Apr 18 2010, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(Neek @ Apr 2 2010, 05:02 PM) Its not just protein shakes that expensive. grocery shopping is expensive too. ONs is a brand '? i'm taking GNC .. it's very very expensive .. around rm 200 i think so around 10-15 servings.. ONs where to buy ?is it good?one question, how much were you buying your protein powder in the first place. I hope its not some fancy schmancy protein thats RM450 for 30 servings or such. In case you're wondering, Mine is RM190 for 70-80 servings. ONs 100% Whey. and if you werent growing in the last 6 months. your diet is messed up. Read this sticky: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/367750 only after reading that, ask more questions. |
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Apr 18 2010, 12:23 PM
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What is so damn expensive from GNC?
ON-Optimum nutrition,It is sold in GNC and garage sales! Its good! |
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Apr 18 2010, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 18 2010, 12:19 PM) ONs is a brand '? i'm taking GNC .. it's very very expensive .. around rm 200 i think so around 10-15 servings.. ONs where to buy ?is it good? RM200 for 15 servings ??  go to garage sales, we have a lot of good protein supplier there... |
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Apr 18 2010, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 18 2010,/? 12:19 PM) ONs is a brand '? i'm taking GNC .. it's very very expensive .. around rm 200 i think so around 10-15 servings.. ONs where to buy ?is it good? wow wat brand is tat, y so expensive? GNC is selling ON for about <RM200 for members for 5lbs (approx 70 servings). unless u bought their new platinum ON whey which i think costs around rm200 for about 20 servings. Garrage sellers sell slighly cheaper than this. |
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Apr 18 2010, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 18 2010, 12:40 PM) wow wat brand is tat, y so expensive? a whole lot cheaper when you buy them stack... GNC is selling ON for about <RM200 for members for 5lbs (approx 70 servings). unless u bought their new platinum ON whey which i think costs around rm200 for about 20 servings. Garrage sellers sell slighly cheaper than this.  |
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Apr 18 2010, 05:46 PM
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Optimum nutrition? it's a kind of protein ?i go to GNC they straight away recommend the whey protein and another type of protein.. it's around 200 ringgit.. singapore will be around 83 dollars for members.. i think around 15-20 servings..
Added on April 18, 2010, 5:52 pm QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 18 2010, 12:40 PM) wow wat brand is tat, y so expensive? i just went online to check about the ON you guys talk bout . here is the linkGNC is selling ON for about <RM200 for members for 5lbs (approx 70 servings). unless u bought their new platinum ON whey which i think costs around rm200 for about 20 servings. Garrage sellers sell slighly cheaper than this. ON nutrition it shows only for 14 servings wor.. how come u guys could make it to 70 servings? This post has been edited by heroes of earth: Apr 18 2010, 05:52 PM |
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Apr 18 2010, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 18 2010, 06:46 PM) Optimum nutrition? it's a kind of protein ?i go to GNC they straight away recommend the whey protein and another type of protein.. it's around 200 ringgit.. singapore will be around 83 dollars for members.. i think around 15-20 servings.. 5x14 = 70Added on April 18, 2010, 5:52 pm i just went online to check about the ON you guys talk bout . here is the link ON nutrition it shows only for 14 servings wor.. how come u guys could make it to 70 servings? They are talking for 5lbs not 1lbs Actually you'll get 80 serving coz it's 5lbs++ This post has been edited by arekey: Apr 18 2010, 06:04 PM |
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Apr 18 2010, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 18 2010, 05:46 PM) Optimum nutrition? it's a kind of protein ?i go to GNC they straight away recommend the whey protein and another type of protein.. it's around 200 ringgit.. singapore will be around 83 dollars for members.. i think around 15-20 servings.. so wat brand exactly did u buy?Added on April 18, 2010, 5:52 pm i just went online to check about the ON you guys talk bout . here is the link ON nutrition it shows only for 14 servings wor.. how come u guys could make it to 70 servings? |
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Apr 18 2010, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 18 2010, 06:29 PM) so wat brand exactly did u buy? i bought GNC brand..another thing i wanna ask .. i'm actually quite thin, the fellow in the shop suggest that with this size i should take not 100%whey protein. but the one with carbo as well..can i know if this is true? |
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Apr 18 2010, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 18 2010, 08:17 PM) i bought GNC brand..another thing i wanna ask .. i'm actually quite thin, the fellow in the shop suggest that with this size i should take not 100%whey protein. but the one with carbo as well..can i know if this is true? The GNC 100% Whey house brand is a pretty solid choice imo. I'm currently using it atm and alternating with Scivation Whey. Try not to listen to GNC sales people. Obviously they would try pushing their products on you. |
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Apr 18 2010, 08:36 PM
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I dun know your exact size but perhaps the sales guy was trying to ask you to take weight gainer instead of whey protein.
If you are really under weight, weight gainer is probably the better choice. This post has been edited by janson_kaniaz: Apr 18 2010, 08:37 PM |
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Apr 18 2010, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 18 2010, 08:19 PM) The GNC 100% Whey house brand is a pretty solid choice imo. I'm currently using it atm and alternating with Scivation Whey. Try not to listen to GNC sales people. Obviously they would try pushing their products on you. how many servings is the whey protein? i went to GNC shop just now, the sales people kinda arrogant, so i didn't ask much cause i actually didn't bring enough money to get the protein  QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 18 2010, 08:36 PM) I dun know your exact size but perhaps the sales guy was trying to ask you to take weight gainer instead of whey protein. i'm around 170 cm. and 56 -58 kg . quite some time didn't weigh d. it's not considered as too thin right ? some people will actually think i'm quite muscular d now..the one that i get was a mix of weight gainer and protein, so it's 14 servings only per container.. the scoop is really huge..so now can i get a whey protein ? there're few types of protein available, which is the most effective one uh ?If you are really under weight, weight gainer is probably the better choice. Added on April 18, 2010, 9:15 pmin addition to what i asked above, can i know how long actually u guys use per day to work out ?i figure around 40 minutes should be enough right ? This post has been edited by heroes of earth: Apr 18 2010, 09:15 PM |
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Apr 18 2010, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 18 2010, 09:03 PM) how many servings is the whey protein? i went to GNC shop just now, the sales people kinda arrogant, so i didn't ask much cause i actually didn't bring enough money to get the protein usually if the scoop is really big, then it's more likely a weight gainer. i'm around 170 cm. and 56 -58 kg . quite some time didn't weigh d. it's not considered as too thin right ? some people will actually think i'm quite muscular d now..the one that i get was a mix of weight gainer and protein, so it's 14 servings only per container.. the scoop is really huge..so now can i get a whey protein ? there're few types of protein available, which is the most effective one uh ? Added on April 18, 2010, 9:15 pmin addition to what i asked above, can i know how long actually u guys use per day to work out ?i figure around 40 minutes should be enough right ? like i said for the price of rm200, u can get good whey tat gives 70+ servings. u have to check ur bmi whether u are underweight. there are so many options of whey out there. ON is the best in terms of price per serving i think. muscletech is not bad, but i read bad taste and exp. and many more... |
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Apr 18 2010, 09:39 PM
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Scivation is actually the cheapest per scoop price.
Well actually 4ring's one is the cheapest but not available outside. |
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Apr 18 2010, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 18 2010, 09:28 PM) usually if the scoop is really big, then it's more likely a weight gainer. bmi is the biggest scam in the bb world imo.....like i said for the price of rm200, u can get good whey tat gives 70+ servings. u have to check ur bmi whether u are underweight. there are so many options of whey out there. ON is the best in terms of price per serving i think. muscletech is not bad, but i read bad taste and exp. and many more... |
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Apr 18 2010, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Apr 18 2010, 09:42 PM) bmi is the biggest scam in the bb world imo..... yaya... i hope its a scam.coz my bmi is very very high. i am so sad... i wanna cry day and nite. muahahaha... 30 bmi is obese! gosh... screw bmi... u dont need to know ur bmi. it does imply to normal guys i guess. but once u r seriously bulking and well, getting into bodybuilding. i guess bmi doesnt really matter. coz, look at those pro body builders. their bmi i can be sure its above 30. but their body has super low bf% This post has been edited by JonYeap: Apr 18 2010, 10:34 PM |
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Apr 18 2010, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 18 2010, 08:17 PM) i bought GNC brand..another thing i wanna ask .. i'm actually quite thin, the fellow in the shop suggest that with this size i should take not 100%whey protein. but the one with carbo as well..can i know if this is true? Bmi is there bcoz there is nothing else tat can indicate how obese or underweight a person is. For a normal person, bmi is a good indicator. For bodybuilder, bfp is more of a concern I guess. |
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Apr 18 2010, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 18 2010, 09:03 PM) how many servings is the whey protein? i went to GNC shop just now, the sales people kinda arrogant, so i didn't ask much cause i actually didn't bring enough money to get the protein read the labels...if it is 5lbs, you can get around 70~80 servings... QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 18 2010, 09:03 PM) i'm around 170 cm. and 56 -58 kg . quite some time didn't weigh d. it's not considered as too thin right ? some people will actually think i'm quite muscular d now..the one that i get was a mix of weight gainer and protein, so it's 14 servings only per container.. the scoop is really huge..so now can i get a whey protein ? there're few types of protein available, which is the most effective one uh ? your ideal BMI is ~ 65kg...you might want to try mass gainer as well if you're too thin...or you do think you're thin...or if you want to try the whey protein, I suggest you get ON 100% Gold Standard Whey Protein or Gaspari MyoFusion (around RM200 both)...QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 18 2010, 09:03 PM) in addition to what i asked above, can i know how long actually u guys use per day to work out ?i figure around 40 minutes should be enough right ? average is around 45minutes ~ 1 1/2 hours... |
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Apr 19 2010, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 18 2010, 09:03 PM) how many servings is the whey protein? i went to GNC shop just now, the sales people kinda arrogant, so i didn't ask much cause i actually didn't bring enough money to get the protein 80 plus. Which GNC brand? i'm around 170 cm. and 56 -58 kg . quite some time didn't weigh d. it's not considered as too thin right ? some people will actually think i'm quite muscular d now..the one that i get was a mix of weight gainer and protein, so it's 14 servings only per container.. the scoop is really huge..so now can i get a whey protein ? there're few types of protein available, which is the most effective one uh ? Added on April 18, 2010, 9:15 pmin addition to what i asked above, can i know how long actually u guys use per day to work out ?i figure around 40 minutes should be enough right ? |
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Apr 19 2010, 12:40 AM
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Darkie ur waist seems quite big in the picture. Still can cut some inches off? First time posing shirtless huh haha.
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Apr 19 2010, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 19 2010, 12:40 AM) Darkie ur waist seems quite big in the picture. Still can cut some inches off? First time posing shirtless huh haha. Bulking season.  I'm gonna put on as much as I can before I start a cut. I cut carbs too much and went flat and it pissed me off. Lol bro, you know my gf saw that pic you took for me at CF that day. She was like who's the skinny guy taking the pic for you. I was like.... that's John91. He's quite big actually. |
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Apr 19 2010, 12:53 AM
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if John is skinny im a walking stick
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Apr 19 2010, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(bata @ Apr 19 2010, 12:53 AM) if John is skinny im a walking stick Actually it's not that bad. John is decent sized but if he wears a normal shirt he doesn't look like he works out at all. Which is why I keep stressing to him that he needs to eat more. I dunno, I guess my gf was commenting from a non bodybuilder's point of view. When i told her i wasn't big enough, i showed her one of the pics which John took for me, she was like.... can you please compare your back to that skinny fella at the back of you?? I said... John is still starting out, he's got a lot of potential but I guess she doesn't know how to judge.Chow |
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Apr 19 2010, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 19 2010, 12:57 AM) Actually it's not that bad. John is decent sized but if he wears a normal shirt he doesn't look like he works out at all. Which is why I keep stressing to him that he needs to eat more. I dunno, I guess my gf was commenting from a non bodybuilder's point of view. When i told her i wasn't big enough, i showed her one of the pics which John took for me, she was like.... can you please compare your back to that skinny fella at the back of you?? I said... John is still starting out, he's got a lot of potential but I guess she doesn't know how to judge. chris, haha... she cannot compare u and john la. =.=muahaha its like comparing a lorry and a van. john is ripped for his size, but u r huge. nobody here is nearly as big as u i guess. haha so ur gf is really comparing john with a wrong person. standing beside u makes a person look small. =.= |
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Apr 19 2010, 01:07 AM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 19 2010, 01:03 AM) chris, haha... she cannot compare u and john la. =.= Heh, my point is too many guys focus so much on being ripped they look small as hell in a normal shirt. You've got the advantage because you look like you work out even when wearing a normal T-shit. That's a good thing.muahaha its like comparing a lorry and a van. john is ripped for his size, but u r huge. nobody here is nearly as big as u i guess. haha so ur gf is really comparing john with a wrong person. standing beside u makes a person look small. =.= |
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Apr 19 2010, 01:10 AM
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Wait...what does your girlfriend think about ME?
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Apr 19 2010, 01:10 AM
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Heh, she thinks you're huge too. Hey, wanna go Al Safa's? I'm hungry. Wanna? Wanna?
Added on April 19, 2010, 1:14 amNick i'm calling ya pick up!! Lol. This post has been edited by darklight79: Apr 19 2010, 01:14 AM |
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Apr 19 2010, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 19 2010, 01:10 AM) Heh, she thinks you're huge too. Hey, wanna go Al Safa's? I'm hungry. Wanna? Wanna? She's the best!!! I'd come out, but I'm busy preparing for my big thing Wednesday. Gah! |
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Apr 19 2010, 01:17 AM
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I'm hungry!!!! C'mon... you know you wanna..... food. Good = big.
Added on April 19, 2010, 1:19 amLol you ffk'er. Nvm I called pedro. He's meeting me there. This post has been edited by darklight79: Apr 19 2010, 01:19 AM |
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Apr 19 2010, 01:28 AM
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lol am on the way!
Which is like walking 5 mins! |
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Apr 19 2010, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 19 2010, 01:07 AM) Heh, my point is too many guys focus so much on being ripped they look small as hell in a normal shirt. You've got the advantage because you look like you work out even when wearing a normal T-shit. That's a good thing. hurmm im not John but i can tell you that we're not focusing on being ripped at all. we want to become big too, but we have to eat way way more.when i look at the member's posted meal plan and the comment like too much carbs, thats very little carbs to me. Chow |
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Apr 19 2010, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 19 2010, 01:10 AM) Heh, she thinks you're huge too. Hey, wanna go Al Safa's? I'm hungry. Wanna? Wanna? That was you? I didn't recognize the number and it was past midnight so I didn't answer. My bad bro! HahaAdded on April 19, 2010, 1:14 amNick i'm calling ya pick up!! Lol. |
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Apr 19 2010, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(bata @ Apr 19 2010, 01:46 AM) hurmm im not John but i can tell you that we're not focusing on being ripped at all. we want to become big too, but we have to eat way way more. Yeah.... from the surface it looks alot , but when it comes to numbers its actually little. I never tot of gulping 150g of carbs for post workout, but aft i tried to follow one of the diet plan, i actually did tat and tats my cutting phase XD.when i look at the member's posted meal plan and the comment like too much carbs, thats very little carbs to me. Chow |
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Apr 19 2010, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 19 2010, 01:52 AM) Bulking season. Ouch man... she should see me in person. Bad angle only lol. I'm gonna put on as much as I can before I start a cut. I cut carbs too much and went flat and it pissed me off. Lol bro, you know my gf saw that pic you took for me at CF that day. She was like who's the skinny guy taking the pic for you. I was like.... that's John91. He's quite big actually.  Should touch 85 or 86kg in another few days.This post has been edited by John91: Apr 19 2010, 05:11 PM |
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Apr 19 2010, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 19 2010, 05:10 PM) Ouch man... she should see me in person. Bad angle only lol. john... u r that heavy? omg... =.= Should touch 85 or 86kg in another few days.hahaha... i am 88kg and i am obese. but u r that ripped at 85kg? crazy! hahha... wats ur height? |
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Apr 19 2010, 05:29 PM
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I'm around 178 I think. 5"10. Bodyfat is climbing a bit as I get heavier lol.
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Apr 19 2010, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 19 2010, 05:29 PM) I'm around 178 I think. 5"10. Bodyfat is climbing a bit as I get heavier lol. i think ur bf in the pic is around 10% or so rite?haha post ur pics in few days time to see how u look when bulked. |
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Apr 19 2010, 07:23 PM
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I just started going for serious bulk around 1 and a half week ago. So far gained around 2-3kg only leh. In the pic my bf is 13.3% according to Celeb Fitness body scanner thingy.
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Apr 19 2010, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 19 2010, 07:23 PM) I just started going for serious bulk around 1 and a half week ago. So far gained around 2-3kg only leh. In the pic my bf is 13.3% according to Celeb Fitness body scanner thingy. hmmm... well, then abs slowly less visible de? =.=hahaha |
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Apr 19 2010, 07:36 PM
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No man, I don't know. Abs are always visible for me lol. I'll try taking a comparison picture these few days.
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Apr 19 2010, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 19 2010, 07:36 PM) No man, I don't know. Abs are always visible for me lol. I'll try taking a comparison picture these few days. Freakin jealous. |
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Apr 19 2010, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(bata @ Apr 19 2010, 01:46 AM) hurmm im not John but i can tell you that we're not focusing on being ripped at all. we want to become big too, but we have to eat way way more. u kene makan takpewhen i look at the member's posted meal plan and the comment like too much carbs, thats very little carbs to me. Chow people like us endos have to keep things in check damn u mesos |
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Apr 19 2010, 08:06 PM
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I'm an ecto...
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Apr 19 2010, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 18 2010, 09:39 PM) Scivation is actually the cheapest per scoop price. Scivation???Well actually 4ring's one is the cheapest but not available outside. yeshhh but the taste.... urghhhhhh..... *blue face* This post has been edited by ReonLim83: Apr 19 2010, 08:25 PM |
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Apr 19 2010, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 19 2010, 08:06 PM) I'm an ecto... damn u big ecto's. haha... u guys can get cut easy... but then problem is ur bulking. it takes more effort to be big. salute u guys... hahaha... |
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Apr 19 2010, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 19 2010, 08:28 PM) damn u big ecto's. i think im endohaha... u guys can get cut easy... but then problem is ur bulking. it takes more effort to be big. salute u guys... hahaha... |
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Apr 19 2010, 09:25 PM
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huh.. u guys seemed to be really really pro @@
i think last time i bought mass XXX in GNC.. it's their house brand .. so that's why 14 servings only .. next time gonna buy ON's whey then .. in msia it's how much uh ? i'm in singapore now .. it's around 200 for 2 tong besar.. one is like 235 ringgit d .. member should be cheaper i think ... i just wanna be like the korean star kwon sang woo or like rain like that.. how long will it take uh ?? u guys work out with a personal trainer ?? |
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Apr 19 2010, 09:37 PM
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I think supps are cheaper in Sg than in Msia.
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Apr 20 2010, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Apr 19 2010, 09:37 PM) I think supps are cheaper in Sg than in Msia. more or less the same there are even Sgporean and Bruneian bought supps from here plus SG laws quite strict, NoXplode n Nitrotech also got banned di Chow |
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Apr 20 2010, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 19 2010, 05:10 PM) Ouch man... she should see me in person. Bad angle only lol. Should touch 85 or 86kg in another few days.QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 19 2010, 05:24 PM) john... u r that heavy? omg... =.= hahaha... i am 88kg and i am obese. but u r that ripped at 85kg? crazy! hahha... wats ur height? QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 19 2010, 05:29 PM) I'm around 178 I think. 5"10. Bodyfat is climbing a bit as I get heavier lol. QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 19 2010, 05:52 PM) i think ur bf in the pic is around 10% or so rite? haha post ur pics in few days time to see how u look when bulked. QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 19 2010, 07:36 PM) No man, I don't know. Abs are always visible for me lol. I'll try taking a comparison picture these few days. I'm a pure ecto. When pedro and I had supper yesterday, I told him i was 50kg before. He didn't believe until he could totally encircle my tiny wrist joint with his whole hand and have some space left for finger movement. John, sacrificing abs a bit is no big deal when on a bulking phase. Do you think Terry has a 8 pack all year round? Here:- Branch Warren guest posing off season. NO 6 pack. Barely visible 4 pack. But HUGE.  |
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Apr 20 2010, 02:49 AM
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Go ask pedro, he's seen me in person. I can tell you now that i don't have a 6 pack, just a slightly visible 4 pack but I can guarantee you he'll verify that my waist looks relatively lean with a tight body hugging shirt.
6 packs are a boon if you're living in California and walk around without a shirt all the time but here in this shithole of a weather in this country, the only way to expose as much without being indecent is a muscle tee, a shirt with a low cut zipper, etc. |
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Apr 20 2010, 06:04 AM
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Not to say that I didn't believe you bro,but its kinda hard to think about it.
The reason why your waist looks lean even tho you're bulking is cause of the width of your lats! Remember,all about illusions bro!  |
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Apr 20 2010, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 20 2010, 03:47 AM) I'm a pure ecto. When pedro and I had supper yesterday, I told him i was 50kg before. He didn't believe until he could totally encircle my tiny wrist joint with his whole hand and have some space left for finger movement. Trust me, I'm not trying to keep my 6 pack lol. Its just... there.John, sacrificing abs a bit is no big deal when on a bulking phase. Do you think Terry has a 8 pack all year round? Here:- |
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Apr 20 2010, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 20 2010, 09:30 AM) Trust me, I'm not trying to keep my 6 pack lol. Its just... there. haha... damn u john!wakkaka... so easy to maintain it... gila jealous. hahaha... some of us trying so hard to even get there. yet urs is just there all the time. hahaha... |
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Apr 20 2010, 11:41 AM
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Forget packs,am struggling to even make it flat!
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Apr 20 2010, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 20 2010, 06:04 AM) Not to say that I didn't believe you bro,but its kinda hard to think about it. I love my lats. =P This is weird. Some of the guys here are like 80++kgs. I'm 85. The reason why your waist looks lean even tho you're bulking is cause of the width of your lats! Remember,all about illusions bro! QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 20 2010, 09:30 AM) Trust me, I'm not trying to keep my 6 pack lol. Its just... there. Aren't you competing like wildcat said? QUOTE(pedro @ Apr 20 2010, 11:41 AM) Forget packs,am struggling to even make it flat! You've got the mass. Some fine tuning would be good. |
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Apr 20 2010, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 20 2010, 09:30 AM) Trust me, I'm not trying to keep my 6 pack lol. Its just... there. Argh!!! i've been cutting for almost 9 weeks and still no 6 packs. $%^&!!!!you lucky #$% lol. |
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Apr 20 2010, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 20 2010, 02:49 AM) Go ask pedro, he's seen me in person. I can tell you now that i don't have a 6 pack, just a slightly visible 4 pack but I can guarantee you he'll verify that my waist looks relatively lean with a tight body hugging shirt. hehe6 packs are a boon if you're living in California and walk around without a shirt all the time but here in this shithole of a weather in this country, the only way to expose as much without being indecent is a muscle tee, a shirt with a low cut zipper, etc. but having to sport some is really great to differ us from the rest hahahaha... mine is flat and has minor flab hate it but at least can feel the tautness at certain angle only thing left is to turn that taut into 6 different sub-spaces or maybe 8  whats ur waist size darklite? 30? mine's like 33" but with the stupid love handles it looks like 40 |
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Apr 20 2010, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 20 2010, 03:31 PM) hehe I wear 33 inch waist pants and it's still slightly lose because I have to tighten up a lil more with a belt. but having to sport some is really great to differ us from the rest hahahaha... mine is flat and has minor flab hate it but at least can feel the tautness at certain angle only thing left is to turn that taut into 6 different sub-spaces or maybe 8 whats ur waist size darklite? 30? mine's like 33" but with the stupid love handles it looks like 40 But of course I have some flab, just not visible but the girls in my group say I look much better than last time, so it's a good indicator. |
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how do we lose those love handles beside cardio?ideas?i know diet is one of em.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 20 2010, 03:45 PM) I love my lats. =P This is weird. Some of the guys here are like 80++kgs. I'm 85. I don't know. Should I? Don't think can win also.Aren't you competing like wildcat said? You've got the mass. Some fine tuning would be good. |
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Apr 20 2010, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 20 2010, 05:03 PM) I don't know. Should I? Don't think can win also. just go and get some experience and the fun.at least u dont regret never trying. haha... make full use of ur life. u have ur youth only once. =.= just give it a try... winning or losing doesnt matter. hehe |
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QUOTE(D_Predator @ Apr 20 2010, 04:23 PM) how do we lose those love handles beside cardio?ideas?i know diet is one of em. Love handles is body fat too. just depends on genetics where most of the fats are stored. some ppl store more on the handles, some ppl more at the gut area.aim to reduce bf% in general shd reduce those love handles too. QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 20 2010, 05:03 PM) I don't know. Should I? Don't think can win also. Just go for the experience!However, you just started bulking not too long ago right? can u still switch to comp condition in such short period? might be possible since your abs are always there regardless -.-" |
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Apr 20 2010, 05:30 PM
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That was what I was thinking but I don't know where to get the underwear and no one to train me for posing lol.
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Apr 20 2010, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 20 2010, 05:30 PM) That was what I was thinking but I don't know where to get the underwear and no one to train me for posing lol. Ask Kmaru for tips since he posed before.http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/suits/mens.html get the hot pink! lol |
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 20 2010, 05:30 PM) That was what I was thinking but I don't know where to get the underwear and no one to train me for posing lol. local u can ask from TeckLeong i think he still sells itChow |
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Apr 20 2010, 07:25 PM
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haha... kmaru can teach u how to pose la. =.=
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 20 2010, 03:34 PM) I wear 33 inch waist pants and it's still slightly lose because I have to tighten up a lil more with a belt. i wear 33 or 34 and it snugs well but cannot walk unless wear belt But of course I have some flab, just not visible but the girls in my group say I look much better than last time, so it's a good indicator.have flab yes (mase duduk but not visible)  |
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 19 2010, 09:25 PM) huh.. u guys seemed to be really really pro @@ nobody answer my question ... i think last time i bought mass XXX in GNC.. it's their house brand .. so that's why 14 servings only .. next time gonna buy ON's whey then .. in msia it's how much uh ? i'm in singapore now .. it's around 200 for 2 tong besar.. one is like 235 ringgit d .. member should be cheaper i think ... i just wanna be like the korean star kwon sang woo or like rain like that.. how long will it take uh ?? u guys work out with a personal trainer ??  |
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 20 2010, 07:38 PM) nobody answer my question ... cannot give good answer for general question like that la brou asking on duration of training or what kind of supps to take? |
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 20 2010, 07:38 PM) nobody answer my question ... ON 100% whey 5lb is around RM180-200 here Depends on how discipline and rich u r, result may vary, it takes different time to reach that Rain body. My guess, 9 months . Yes, i train with a personal trainer |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 20 2010, 07:49 PM) cannot give good answer for general question like that la bro both... my chest is still very small ... do you guys have the standard inches for certain tall? not only the chest, the arms the waist which is the standard one for all the height.. i gotta achieve that in very short duration ..u asking on duration of training or what kind of supps to take? I'm around 56,57 kg and 170 cm.. is it not suitable to take whey protein yet ? should i start with weight gainer first?? QUOTE(david890701 @ Apr 20 2010, 07:52 PM) ON 100% whey 5lb is around RM180-200 here whey protein, you guys tak how many scoop one day ? if 5lb is 70+ servings.. and one day take one scoop..one day will be around 3 ringgit.. which I can afford lar.. another thing .. i know you can calculate the protein intake for everyday.. how u guys actually calculate the normal meal like lunch and breakfast?Depends on how discipline and rich u r, result may vary, it takes different time to reach that Rain body. My guess, 9 months . Yes, i train with a personal trainer i mean like chicken pieces and pork meat ball.. that's hard to calculate right ??i plan to take one scoop protein and 10 eggs one day . that will be around 60 g protein d . plus my normal meal isit enough to achieve 132 g which is required by my body ?? Added on April 20, 2010, 9:37 pmbesides that, do you guys sometimes realise that one side or one of the hand will have bigger muscle or has better strength than the other ? This post has been edited by heroes of earth: Apr 20 2010, 09:37 PM |
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Who's teck leong lol.
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 20 2010, 09:30 PM) both... my chest is still very small ... do you guys have the standard inches for certain tall? not only the chest, the arms the waist which is the standard one for all the height.. i gotta achieve that in very short duration .. wah bro, ur questions are quite specific at times. Bb to me is not rocket science. I'm around 56,57 kg and 170 cm.. is it not suitable to take whey protein yet ? should i start with weight gainer first?? whey protein, you guys tak how many scoop one day ? if 5lb is 70+ servings.. and one day take one scoop..one day will be around 3 ringgit.. which I can afford lar.. another thing .. i know you can calculate the protein intake for everyday.. how u guys actually calculate the normal meal like lunch and breakfast? i mean like chicken pieces and pork meat ball.. that's hard to calculate right ??i plan to take one scoop protein and 10 eggs one day . that will be around 60 g protein d . plus my normal meal isit enough to achieve 132 g which is required by my body ?? Added on April 20, 2010, 9:37 pmbesides that, do you guys sometimes realise that one side or one of the hand will have bigger muscle or has better strength than the other ? To me it's better if u bulk up first. Probably set urself a certain weight as ur goal. 60-65 kg mayb? Then whey can come into play. For those specific questions, it's better answered by our pros here. Ps: ON whey contains 24g of protein per serving. U need around 5-6 scoops per day based on ur weight. In addition to tat is the protein from ur daily meals. This post has been edited by janson_kaniaz: Apr 20 2010, 10:33 PM |
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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 20 2010, 09:52 PM) Who's teck leong lol. muscle_fuel... |
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These guys look like they are on adamantium armour suits!
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Apr 20 2010, 10:52 PM) muscle_fuel... bukan die ade jual supps kat lyn keand they look a lot better than being tanned This post has been edited by gtoforce: Apr 21 2010, 12:04 AM |
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Apr 20 2010, 10:52 PM) muscle_fuel... It's examples like these why i chose bodybuilding over powerlifting. Heh. Awesome. |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 21 2010, 12:43 AM) It's examples like these why i chose bodybuilding over powerlifting. Heh. Awesome. takde ke powerlifters yang huge as these monsters? |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 21 2010, 12:44 AM) takde ke powerlifters yang huge as these monsters? There are but they will never be as well developed, period. I've seen some powerlifters who have dieted down just for the heck of it. They look impressive no doubt but enter a professional bb comp and they get their asses handed to them on a hat. |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 21 2010, 12:49 AM) There are but they will never be as well developed, period. I've seen some powerlifters who have dieted down just for the heck of it. They look impressive no doubt but enter a professional bb comp and they get their asses handed to them on a hat. asses on hat ehnow thats quite a statement but then again, ive been to blogs here in malaysia about powerlifters apsal sume macam afdlin shauki je (and some even made afdlin shauki look so small) |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 21 2010, 12:51 AM) asses on hat eh They can be bigger but they won't be as well developed, period.now thats quite a statement but then again, ive been to blogs here in malaysia about powerlifters apsal sume macam afdlin shauki je (and some even made afdlin shauki look so small) |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 21 2010, 12:44 AM) takde ke powerlifters yang huge as these monsters? Couldn't find local ones. Anyway, ni hah:  Mariusz Pudzianowski (Strongman)  Dave Tate (powerlifter) Not the sort of definition BBers have. But hey, it's an unfair comparison that runs both ways (comparing BBers to powerlifters, and/or powerlifters to BBers). <---re-phrased for clariry. You won't compare a powerlifter's physique using BB's requirements... just as you won't compare BBer's strength using strongman's rules. This post has been edited by iamyuanwu: Apr 21 2010, 02:39 AM |
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Which is exactly why it's
called bodybuilding where physiques are judged by bodybuilding standards, not strength. Cannot deny these 2 look impressive but they'd be knocked out in prejudging fast. Here, contrary to popular belief, I have a healthy respect for powerlifting, here's one dedicated to it:- This post has been edited by darklight79: Apr 21 2010, 03:55 AM |
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But, compare bodybuilders' physiques (size wise then) now, strength is secondary:-
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 21 2010, 12:04 AM) bukan die ade jual supps kat lyn ke ye la bro...die jual vitargo stacks KNS...and they look a lot better than being tanned when you mean better tu, looks more like normal being ker ?? they apply tanning lotion to look more defined...provided that, not too dark...  Added on April 21, 2010, 9:41 am QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Apr 21 2010, 02:20 AM) Couldn't find local ones. Mariusz rules !! Anyway, ni hah: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Not the sort of definition BBers have. But hey, it's an unfair comparison that runs both ways (comparing BBers to powerlifters, and/or powerlifters to BBers). <---re-phrased for clariry. You won't compare a powerlifter's physique using BB's requirements... just as you won't compare BBer's strength using strongman's rules.  look for his shoulder training @ youtube...crazy poundages for power clean... more pictures of liaw teck leong...he's a very friendly person...gave me a lot of advice on food and routine...he's a natural bber... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by diablokun: Apr 21 2010, 02:42 PM |
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Apr 21 2010, 09:33 AM) ye la bro...die jual vitargo stacks KNS... when you mean better tu, looks more like normal being ker ?? they apply tanning lotion to look more defined...provided that, not too dark... Added on April 21, 2010, 9:41 amMariusz rules !! look for his shoulder training @ youtube...crazy poundages for power clean... more pictures of liaw teck leong...he's a very friendly person...gave me a lot of advice on food and routine...he's a natural bber... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Yup. he's a natural Body Builder. under MSN too. I bought my supp from him his NutriHealth is based in kuching but will drop down to KL once in awhile. will usually meet him up when he's down. i think he's coming down next week, his stock is touching down at port klang anytime now. Added on April 21, 2010, 1:38 pmVitargo!!!!!!! AWESOME STUFF!!! This post has been edited by ReonLim83: Apr 21 2010, 01:38 PM |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « while people nowadays suka jay cutler, ronnie colemen, levrone etc, i wud love to get the bodies of the likes of mike mentzer, arnold, lee haney (the classic bb'ers) hehehehe |
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 20 2010, 09:30 PM) both... my chest is still very small ... do you guys have the standard inches for certain tall? not only the chest, the arms the waist which is the standard one for all the height.. i gotta achieve that in very short duration .. help I'm around 56,57 kg and 170 cm.. is it not suitable to take whey protein yet ? should i start with weight gainer first?? whey protein, you guys tak how many scoop one day ? if 5lb is 70+ servings.. and one day take one scoop..one day will be around 3 ringgit.. which I can afford lar.. another thing .. i know you can calculate the protein intake for everyday.. how u guys actually calculate the normal meal like lunch and breakfast? i mean like chicken pieces and pork meat ball.. that's hard to calculate right ??i plan to take one scoop protein and 10 eggs one day . that will be around 60 g protein d . plus my normal meal isit enough to achieve 132 g which is required by my body ?? Added on April 20, 2010, 9:37 pmbesides that, do you guys sometimes realise that one side or one of the hand will have bigger muscle or has better strength than the other ? please.. |
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 21 2010, 08:54 PM) help i tak paham how u wanna achieve whatever u wanna achieve in short duration la bro please..we understand ur concern but asking away here every single thing without effort on ur side cannot get u anywhere bro u gotta read read read and bodybuilding doesnt happen in a day and depending on ur focus, routine, diet, GENETICS, rest, meds, etc, some get it in less than a year, some get it after certain years when they are matured in bb'ing one side of the body is always stronger than the other cuz u use ur flexors more for one side take a right handed man for example in theory, his right hand for sure lagi kuat cuz he uses it for writing la, this la, driving la, TFK la, whatever la but that's not really about strength its more on the flexors being tight and not and many other reasons seriously, READ READ READ READ READ READ READ u can ask things about ur workout routine etc better yet, post vids also mane tau can help im sure ur new to this balancing is important also and ur body needs to get used to lifting / pushing / pulling / swinging / pressing / jumping read this Right arm bigger than the other and this Also another site i've been there and penah kene marah by Terry Gallyot he said must work the weaker muscle more but use lesser weight but more volume i did but kena marah again cuz im using too little weight to work it out trial and error bro trial and error about ur diet, we cannot tell you in a precise manner how u shud go about it la u plan to take 1 scoop + eggs? is that all ur having? what about other nutrient source? veggies? fats? carbs? calcium? zinc? iron? etc etc need to read more bro... This post has been edited by gtoforce: Apr 22 2010, 12:12 AM |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 22 2010, 12:11 AM) i tak paham how u wanna achieve whatever u wanna achieve in short duration la bro ya i'm reading d all the info.. but i think ask should be faster right ??we understand ur concern but asking away here every single thing without effort on ur side cannot get u anywhere bro u gotta read read read and bodybuilding doesnt happen in a day and depending on ur focus, routine, diet, GENETICS, rest, meds, etc, some get it in less than a year, some get it after certain years when they are matured in bb'ing one side of the body is always stronger than the other cuz u use ur flexors more for one side take a right handed man for example in theory, his right hand for sure lagi kuat cuz he uses it for writing la, this la, driving la, TFK la, whatever la but that's not really about strength its more on the flexors being tight and not and many other reasons seriously, READ READ READ READ READ READ READ u can ask things about ur workout routine etc better yet, post vids also mane tau can help im sure ur new to this balancing is important also and ur body needs to get used to lifting / pushing / pulling / swinging / pressing / jumping read this Right arm bigger than the other and this Also another site i've been there and penah kene marah by Terry Gallyot he said must work the weaker muscle more but use lesser weight but more volume i did but kena marah again cuz im using too little weight to work it out trial and error bro trial and error about ur diet, we cannot tell you in a precise manner how u shud go about it la u plan to take 1 scoop + eggs? is that all ur having? what about other nutrient source? veggies? fats? carbs? calcium? zinc? iron? etc etc need to read more bro... and yeah , i'm still new , very new .. i plan to get a protein . that's around rm200 for 5lbs . 2 scoops of protein one day , then 10 eggs each day .. other nutrient source i didn't know it's necessary .. cause most people like didn't take only ?? so i thought protein is enough d .. what else do i need then ?? i'm not planning to be like a body builder like wong hong ..i just wanna get like rain u know ? wear t-shirt looked really nice and get some strength .. what could replace EZ bar curls ?? |
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Apr 22 2010, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 22 2010, 05:44 PM) ya i'm reading d all the info.. but i think ask should be faster right ?? ez bar curls? and yeah , i'm still new , very new .. i plan to get a protein . that's around rm200 for 5lbs . 2 scoops of protein one day , then 10 eggs each day .. other nutrient source i didn't know it's necessary .. cause most people like didn't take only ?? so i thought protein is enough d .. what else do i need then ?? i'm not planning to be like a body builder like wong hong ..i just wanna get like rain u know ? wear t-shirt looked really nice and get some strength .. what could replace EZ bar curls ?? why bother doing curls when u r just new? train ur basic strength first i would suggest. unless u r already strong. some basic exercises for few months then u can switch to isolations. try doing squats, deadlift, bench press, barbell rows, chin up or so. |
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Apr 22 2010, 06:08 PM
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U have to train like wong hong first... then somewhere along the line, u will look like rain, then u can stop there and maintain.
EZ bar curls can be replaced with any other curl. barbell curl, dumbell curl. but follow what jonYeap just said. get the foundation right first. |
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 22 2010, 05:44 PM) ya i'm reading d all the info.. but i think ask should be faster right ?? o.O u eat as many as u need, 1 g protein to per lbs of ur bodyweight and eat accordingly not blindly. Just because we somehow talk about eggs alot, tat doesnt mean tat egg is the only source of protein dude. Protein can comes from meat, milk, nuts, oat and etc just tat they are different in carb:protein:fat ratio. U still got to eat like wong hong to get tat gay rain body =.=. and yeah , i'm still new , very new .. i plan to get a protein . that's around rm200 for 5lbs . 2 scoops of protein one day , then 10 eggs each day .. other nutrient source i didn't know it's necessary .. cause most people like didn't take only ?? so i thought protein is enough d .. what else do i need then ?? i'm not planning to be like a body builder like wong hong ..i just wanna get like rain u know ? wear t-shirt looked really nice and get some strength .. what could replace EZ bar curls ?? |
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 22 2010, 06:03 PM) ez bar curls? why bother doing curls when u r just new? train ur basic strength first i would suggest. unless u r already strong. some basic exercises for few months then u can switch to isolations. try doing squats, deadlift, bench press, barbell rows, chin up or so. Have you seen they way Rain trains for his Ninja Assassin movie? It is CRAZEEEEEEE! He trained like a fighter. And... Oh, he didn't do curls. He does SLED PULLS! w00t! |
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 22 2010, 06:03 PM) ez bar curls? why bother doing curls when u r just new? train ur basic strength first i would suggest. unless u r already strong. some basic exercises for few months then u can switch to isolations. try doing squats, deadlift, bench press, barbell rows, chin up or so. QUOTE(Neek @ Apr 22 2010, 06:08 PM) U have to train like wong hong first... then somewhere along the line, u will look like rain, then u can stop there and maintain. this is how i planned my work out ..i know it's kinda long .. but please help and correct any mistake .. i'm still new .. have been doing this for few weeks now .. without protein supplement .. plan to get one whey protein ... for my weight i think i gotta take in 132 g protein .. besides protein , can u guys tell me what other supplement i need to get ?? i know it's not easy .. and gotta eat and work out like wong hong .. it's just that for my height .. if i got such big muscles will be kinda funny .. please help EZ bar curls can be replaced with any other curl. barbell curl, dumbell curl. but follow what jonYeap just said. get the foundation right first. monday - rest (because normally sunday i'll sleep kinda late and wake up early on monday morning ) Tuesday - chest and forearm for chest -Barbell Bench Press – 10-12 times, repeat 4 times Barbell Incline Bench Press - 10-12 times , repeat 4 times forearm -Wrist Curls 15-20 times - light weight, repeat 4 times Reverse Wrist Curls - 15 to 20 times - light weight repeat 4 times. wednesday - triceps and biceps triceps -Skull Crushers, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times Cable Press Downs, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times Behind the Back Dumbbell Press Down, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times biceps-Straight Bar Curls 10-12 times , repeat 4 times Alternate Dumbbell Curls, 10-12 times , repeat 4 times Thursday - upper and lower back lower back - Deadlift- light weight , 15-20 times, repeat 4 times Good Morning – light weight , 15-20 times, repeat 4 times upper back - Seated Cable Row, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times Barbell Row, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times Pull Downs to the Front, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times friday - deltoid and traps deltoid - Dumbbell Shoulder Press -10-12 times , repeat 3 times Dumbbell Side Laterals – 10-12 times , repeat 3 times Dumbbell Front Raise- 10-12 times , repeat 3 times traps- Barbell Upright Rows – 10-12 times, repeat 4 times Barbell Shrugs – 10-12 times , repeat 4 times saturday - rest sunday start all over again from chest and forearm , tuesday is biceps and triceps .. meaning that every saturday and monday is offday ..i'm not training my abs since i think my abs is ok d ..please advise .. |
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 22 2010, 05:44 PM) ya i'm reading d all the info.. but i think ask should be faster right ?? as per what they said, u dun wanna be like wong hong but u wanna be like rainand yeah , i'm still new , very new .. i plan to get a protein . that's around rm200 for 5lbs . 2 scoops of protein one day , then 10 eggs each day .. other nutrient source i didn't know it's necessary .. cause most people like didn't take only ?? so i thought protein is enough d .. what else do i need then ?? i'm not planning to be like a body builder like wong hong ..i just wanna get like rain u know ? wear t-shirt looked really nice and get some strength .. what could replace EZ bar curls ?? have u google how he trained? do u understand the mechanics of working out and main besi? have u understood how your body works and its conditioning? or my easiest question, have you worked out your diet? water intake per day? micro nutrient intake? i ni tak la suke marah marah orang baru but when u said u think ask should be faster it reflects that u are not making enough effort for yourself and in anything bodybuilding or in what i do (LAW), I THINK ITS IDIOTIC...nuff said QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 22 2010, 07:23 PM) this is how i planned my work out ..i know it's kinda long .. but please help and correct any mistake .. i'm still new .. have been doing this for few weeks now .. without protein supplement .. plan to get one whey protein ... for my weight i think i gotta take in 132 g protein .. besides protein , can u guys tell me what other supplement i need to get ?? i know it's not easy .. and gotta eat and work out like wong hong .. it's just that for my height .. if i got such big muscles will be kinda funny .. please help pening la baca monday - rest (because normally sunday i'll sleep kinda late and wake up early on monday morning ) Tuesday - chest and forearm for chest -Barbell Bench Press – 10-12 times, repeat 4 times Barbell Incline Bench Press - 10-12 times , repeat 4 times forearm -Wrist Curls 15-20 times - light weight, repeat 4 times Reverse Wrist Curls - 15 to 20 times - light weight repeat 4 times. wednesday - triceps and biceps triceps -Skull Crushers, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times Cable Press Downs, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times Behind the Back Dumbbell Press Down, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times biceps-Straight Bar Curls 10-12 times , repeat 4 times Alternate Dumbbell Curls, 10-12 times , repeat 4 times Thursday - upper and lower back lower back - Deadlift- light weight , 15-20 times, repeat 4 times Good Morning – light weight , 15-20 times, repeat 4 times upper back - Seated Cable Row, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times Barbell Row, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times Pull Downs to the Front, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times friday - deltoid and traps deltoid - Dumbbell Shoulder Press -10-12 times , repeat 3 times Dumbbell Side Laterals – 10-12 times , repeat 3 times Dumbbell Front Raise- 10-12 times , repeat 3 times traps- Barbell Upright Rows – 10-12 times, repeat 4 times Barbell Shrugs – 10-12 times , repeat 4 times saturday - rest sunday start all over again from chest and forearm , tuesday is biceps and triceps .. meaning that every saturday and monday is offday ..i'm not training my abs since i think my abs is ok d ..please advise .. u have to construct properly please refer to darklight79's workout journal and other journals too u susun betul2 then we answer dont bantai je and expect answers coming from the sky bro and looking at ur routine, in my opinion concentrate on the compounds first cuz thats where u build ur strength, balancing, conditioning, and where u measure the angle, whether ur comfortable with the routine, when can u injure etc etc when ur new, ur focus aint about hypertrophy in my opinion at least...its about getting the basics right dulu like i said MAKE A VISIT TO TERRY GALLYOT'S GYM CUZ I STARTED THERE TOO... |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 22 2010, 07:35 PM) as per what they said, u dun wanna be like wong hong but u wanna be like rain Sabar bro. Sabar. Deep breaths. LOL.have u google how he trained? do u understand the mechanics of working out and main besi? have u understood how your body works and its conditioning? or my easiest question, have you worked out your diet? water intake per day? micro nutrient intake? i ni tak la suke marah marah orang baru but when u said u think ask should be faster it reflects that u are not making enough effort for yourself and in anything bodybuilding or in what i do (LAW), I THINK ITS IDIOTIC...nuff said pening la baca u have to construct properly please refer to darklight79's workout journal and other journals too u susun betul2 then we answer dont bantai je and expect answers coming from the sky bro and looking at ur routine, in my opinion concentrate on the compounds first cuz thats where u build ur strength, balancing, conditioning, and where u measure the angle, whether ur comfortable with the routine, when can u injure etc etc when ur new, ur focus aint about hypertrophy in my opinion at least...its about getting the basics right dulu like i said MAKE A VISIT TO TERRY GALLYOT'S GYM CUZ I STARTED THERE TOO... |
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Apr 22 2010, 07:07 PM) Have you seen they way Rain trains for his Ninja Assassin movie? sled pulls FTW lol, gotta diy one. It is CRAZEEEEEEE! He trained like a fighter. And... Oh, he didn't do curls. He does SLED PULLS! w00t! Note: help you to edit your youtube link, not to paste the link but the embed code (underneath of Viewing Count) lol |
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 22 2010, 06:03 PM) ez bar curls? Nonsense. Want big arms do direct arm work. Want big chest do direct chest work, etc.why bother doing curls when u r just new? train ur basic strength first i would suggest. unless u r already strong. some basic exercises for few months then u can switch to isolations. try doing squats, deadlift, bench press, barbell rows, chin up or so. |
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in my opinion, whenever newbie come and ask this ask that. i will just point them to Rippetoe training
i think BB style training got too much type of excercise which might confuse and take more time to learn. instead of doing so why dont stick to the Basic big 4, Squat, Bench Press, Overhead Press, deadlift After they gone thought that program, i think they should have a good base and basic knowledge to start with. instead of seeing alot funny shit doing curls 4 time per week with a chicken leg For sure, start light! |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 22 2010, 09:40 PM) Nonsense. Want big arms do direct arm work. Want big chest do direct chest work, etc. that's what i heard also .. but it seems many people just not happy with what i asked .. QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Apr 22 2010, 10:11 PM) in my opinion, whenever newbie come and ask this ask that. i will just point them to Rippetoe training i've included those 4 into my workout.. so means i'm over doing d /??i think BB style training got too much type of excercise which might confuse and take more time to learn. instead of doing so why dont stick to the Basic big 4, Squat, Bench Press, Overhead Press, deadlift After they gone thought that program, i think they should have a good base and basic knowledge to start with. instead of seeing alot funny shit doing curls 4 time per week with a chicken leg For sure, start light! |
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 22 2010, 10:17 PM) that's what i heard also .. but it seems many people just not happy with what i asked .. You should be worried about not doing enough. It's very hard to overtrain as a beginner and intermediate. You should see how the professional bodybuilders advise people in their threads. One sentence, short, sweet and simple. i've included those 4 into my workout.. so means i'm over doing d /?? What absolutely slays me is that "Rip" doesn't claim Rippetoe to be a bodybuilding program. Per him. Why I try not to say too much about his program. Not his fault that a vocal percentage of people that follow his program are f*cking dolts. It does suck though that his parrots on here are far more zealous about his program than he is. To him, it is a program for beginner's to achieve basic fitness results, etc. To them, it is the end all, be all program to do anything and everything. To be a bodybuilder, TRAIN like a bodybuilder. Simple as abc. |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 22 2010, 11:29 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « To be a bodybuilder, TRAIN like a bodybuilder. Simple as abc. To be a bodybuilder, TRAIN like a bodybuilder, TRAIN WITH a bodybuilder. If you're new, no point go balls out devicing your own programme. If you have no guidance, might as well follow rippetoe, stronglift, or Max OT, or whatever programme that works. Reason being they are simple and they give you a kick start until you're good enough to plan your own training. Asking here is going to get you a million answer. All of them valid, but not necessarily applicable to you. You want to be bodybuilder type: then you should refer to Darklight, Wildcat, Kmaru. Go to Terry's gym. |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 22 2010, 11:29 PM) You should be worried about not doing enough. It's very hard to overtrain as a beginner and intermediate. You should see how the professional bodybuilders advise people in their threads. One sentence, short, sweet and simple. What absolutely slays me is that "Rip" doesn't claim Rippetoe to be a bodybuilding program. Per him. Why I try not to say too much about his program. Not his fault that a vocal percentage of people that follow his program are f*cking dolts. It does suck though that his parrots on here are far more zealous about his program than he is. To him, it is a program for beginner's to achieve basic fitness results, etc. To them, it is the end all, be all program to do anything and everything. To be a bodybuilder, TRAIN like a bodybuilder. Simple as abc. QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Apr 23 2010, 12:33 AM) Allow me to add: nuff saidTo be a bodybuilder, TRAIN like a bodybuilder, TRAIN WITH a bodybuilder. If you're new, no point go balls out devicing your own programme. If you have no guidance, might as well follow rippetoe, stronglift, or Max OT, or whatever programme that works. Reason being they are simple and they give you a kick start until you're good enough to plan your own training. Asking here is going to get you a million answer. All of them valid, but not necessarily applicable to you. You want to be bodybuilder type: then you should refer to Darklight, Wildcat, Kmaru. Go to Terry's gym. PWNED!!!! |
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 22 2010, 07:23 PM) this is how i planned my work out ..i know it's kinda long .. but please help and correct any mistake .. i'm still new .. have been doing this for few weeks now .. without protein supplement .. plan to get one whey protein ... for my weight i think i gotta take in 132 g protein .. besides protein , can u guys tell me what other supplement i need to get ?? i know it's not easy .. and gotta eat and work out like wong hong .. it's just that for my height .. if i got such big muscles will be kinda funny .. please help here u go...basic push & pull Day 1 : Biceps n chest Day 2 : Back & triceps Day 3 : Legs Day 4 : Shoulder & Abs Lain2: cardio & rest day each part must have compounds n iso Chow This post has been edited by bata: Apr 23 2010, 04:46 AM |
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QUOTE(bata @ Apr 23 2010, 04:45 AM) here u go...basic push & pull Looks good but I would advise a day break in between Day 1 and 2. Tris will still be fried on Day 1 from training chest and will be at suboptimal strength.Day 1 : Biceps n chest Day 2 : Back & triceps Day 3 : Legs Day 4 : Shoulder & Abs Lain2: cardio & rest day each part must have compounds n iso Chow |
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oh, i didnt state which day rest day. LOL.
for me depends on each person Chow |
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QUOTE(bata @ Apr 23 2010, 05:22 AM) oh, i didnt state which day rest day. LOL. Heh I remember my recovery used to be crap until I got my nutrition in order. Especially post and intra workout. Now DOMS isn't really an issue for me anymore. Bcaa's rule.for me depends on each person Chow |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 23 2010, 05:30 AM) Heh I remember my recovery used to be crap until I got my nutrition in order. Especially post and intra workout. Now DOMS isn't really an issue for me anymore. Bcaa's rule. i used to think that pre workout is just a myth (although ive been following rigorously without any faith in it i.e. high protein, medium carbs, low fat food 1-2 hours before workout + creatine)but yesterday i was in a meeting til lunch hour and i only had 2 pieces of tuna sandwiches was playing chest during lunchtime and i could not even press 25kgs dumbbell on flat (27.5 is my maximum 10reps depending on days) and could only stick to 15kgs db for my incline (maximum 10 reps is 22.5kgs) SHE*T lepas ni kene betul betul jaga darn... |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 22 2010, 11:29 PM) You should be worried about not doing enough. It's very hard to overtrain as a beginner and intermediate. You should see how the professional bodybuilders advise people in their threads. One sentence, short, sweet and simple. so means my work out has no problem. i just hav to stick with it and take as much protein as i could?What absolutely slays me is that "Rip" doesn't claim Rippetoe to be a bodybuilding program. Per him. Why I try not to say too much about his program. Not his fault that a vocal percentage of people that follow his program are f*cking dolts. It does suck though that his parrots on here are far more zealous about his program than he is. To him, it is a program for beginner's to achieve basic fitness results, etc. To them, it is the end all, be all program to do anything and everything. To be a bodybuilder, TRAIN like a bodybuilder. Simple as abc. QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Apr 23 2010, 12:33 AM) Allow me to add: i'm going to gym. i'm training with lots of people with better body than me. they teach me the work out, i went online to search the correct way to work out also .. it's just i'm not sure whether i'm doing enough or not enough .and also whether i'm taking enough of protein and other nutrients. please advice on that ... thanks ..To be a bodybuilder, TRAIN like a bodybuilder, TRAIN WITH a bodybuilder. If you're new, no point go balls out devicing your own programme. If you have no guidance, might as well follow rippetoe, stronglift, or Max OT, or whatever programme that works. Reason being they are simple and they give you a kick start until you're good enough to plan your own training. Asking here is going to get you a million answer. All of them valid, but not necessarily applicable to you. You want to be bodybuilder type: then you should refer to Darklight, Wildcat, Kmaru. Go to Terry's gym. QUOTE(bata @ Apr 23 2010, 04:45 AM) here u go...basic push & pull thank you chow, really helpful. but what's compounds and iso ? can explain further ?Day 1 : Biceps n chest Day 2 : Back & triceps Day 3 : Legs Day 4 : Shoulder & Abs Lain2: cardio & rest day each part must have compounds n iso Chow |
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Compounds are exercises that require the use of more than one muscle. Isolation exercises tend to focus on the targetted muscle only.
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Apr 23 2010, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 23 2010, 05:54 PM) Compounds are exercises that require the use of more than one muscle. Isolation exercises tend to focus on the targetted muscle only. Thank you dan, got it. that's your body ?? huh .. i think it's nice .. the hand especially .. i heard if you have the size you want and you want to sort of tune it .how you do that ? |
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Apr 23 2010, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 23 2010, 05:49 PM) so means my work out has no problem. i just hav to stick with it and take as much protein as i could? i thought chow is the signature of saying bye byei'm going to gym. i'm training with lots of people with better body than me. they teach me the work out, i went online to search the correct way to work out also .. it's just i'm not sure whether i'm doing enough or not enough .and also whether i'm taking enough of protein and other nutrients. please advice on that ... thanks .. thank you chow, really helpful. but what's compounds and iso ? can explain further ? haha QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 23 2010, 06:01 PM) Thank you dan, got it. that's your body ?? huh .. i think it's nice .. the hand especially .. i heard if you have the size you want and you want to sort of tune it .how you do that ? there u go dan... what do u mean by tune tu? |
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Apr 23 2010, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 23 2010, 06:01 PM) Thank you dan, got it. that's your body ?? huh .. i think it's nice .. the hand especially .. i heard if you have the size you want and you want to sort of tune it .how you do that ? seriously, you need to read more to gain the knowledge instead of asking one by one.www.bodybuilding.com is very nice gold mine! |
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Apr 23 2010, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 23 2010, 05:49 PM) thank you chow, really helpful. but what's compounds and iso ? can explain further ? LOL!! Bata. I can't stop laughing sorry. |
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Apr 23 2010, 10:24 PM
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+100 LOL This post has been edited by janson_kaniaz: Apr 23 2010, 10:26 PM |
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Apr 23 2010, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Apr 23 2010, 08:02 PM) seriously, you need to read more to gain the knowledge instead of asking one by one. yeah, thanks a lot ..i'll start reading.www.bodybuilding.com is very nice gold mine! |
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