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gtoforce
post Apr 17 2010, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 16 2010, 10:17 PM)
no.
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eggs...
i disregarded its effects but i remembered when i was purely bulking last time
20 eggs per day pun you can see effects in 2-3 months

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post Apr 17 2010, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Apr 17 2010, 12:24 PM)
lol, it seems like ppl are looking at the amt of eggs instead of looking at the protein that their body needs.

Rule of thumbs, take ur protein 1g to per lbs of ur bodyweight, i take 1.5 when i m cutting. Search in google for the nutrition fact on food, then u will know wat to eat.
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haha
one egg = roughly 5-6g of protein
so kene pandai pandai la makan up to 1-1.5lbs per body weight in lbs
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but i also take whey 2-3 scoop per day
and also beef / chicken / fish and sayur to complete the rest
and legumes and raisins and milk and 2-3l of plain water per day
and animal pak for vitamins also
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post Apr 19 2010, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(bata @ Apr 19 2010, 01:46 AM)
hurmm im not John but i can tell you that we're not focusing on being ripped at all. we want to become big too, but we have to eat way way more.
when i look at the member's posted meal plan and the comment like too much carbs, thats very little carbs to me.
Chow
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u kene makan takpe
people like us endos have to keep things in check
damn u mesos

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post Apr 20 2010, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 20 2010, 02:49 AM)
Go ask pedro, he's seen me in person. I can tell you now that i don't have a 6 pack, just a slightly visible 4 pack but I can guarantee you he'll verify that my waist looks relatively lean with a tight body hugging shirt.

6 packs are a boon if you're living in California and walk around without a shirt all the time but here in this shithole of a weather in this country, the only way to expose as much without being indecent is a muscle tee, a shirt with a low cut zipper, etc.
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hehe
but having to sport some is really great to differ us from the rest
hahahaha...

mine is flat and has minor flab
hate it but at least can feel the tautness at certain angle
only thing left is to turn that taut into 6 different sub-spaces or maybe 8
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whats ur waist size darklite?
30? mine's like 33" but with the stupid love handles it looks like 40
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post Apr 20 2010, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 20 2010, 03:34 PM)
I wear 33 inch waist pants and it's still slightly lose because I have to tighten up a lil more with a belt.  cool2.gif  But of course I have some flab, just not visible but the girls in my group say I look much better than last time, so it's a good indicator.
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i wear 33 or 34 and it snugs well but cannot walk unless wear belt
have flab yes (mase duduk but not visible)
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post Apr 20 2010, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 20 2010, 07:38 PM)
nobody answer my question ...  icon_question.gif
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cannot give good answer for general question like that la bro
u asking on duration of training or what kind of supps to take?
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post Apr 21 2010, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(diablokun @ Apr 20 2010, 10:52 PM)
muscle_fuel...
user posted image
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bukan die ade jual supps kat lyn ke
and they look a lot better than being tanned

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post Apr 21 2010, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 21 2010, 12:43 AM)
It's examples like these why i chose bodybuilding over powerlifting. Heh. Awesome.
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takde ke powerlifters yang huge as these monsters?
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post Apr 21 2010, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 21 2010, 12:49 AM)
There are but they will never be as well developed, period. I've seen some powerlifters who have dieted down just for the heck of it. They look impressive no doubt but enter a professional bb comp and they get their asses handed to them on a hat.
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asses on hat eh
now thats quite a statement
but then again, ive been to blogs here in malaysia about powerlifters
apsal sume macam afdlin shauki je (and some even made afdlin shauki look so small)

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post Apr 21 2010, 02:38 PM

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while people nowadays suka jay cutler, ronnie colemen, levrone
etc, i wud love to get the bodies of the likes of mike mentzer, arnold, lee haney (the classic bb'ers)
hehehehe

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post Apr 22 2010, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 21 2010, 08:54 PM)
help  icon_question.gif please..
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i tak paham how u wanna achieve whatever u wanna achieve in short duration la bro
we understand ur concern but asking away here every single thing without effort on ur side cannot get u anywhere bro
u gotta read read read
and bodybuilding doesnt happen in a day and depending on ur focus, routine, diet, GENETICS, rest, meds, etc, some get it in less than a year, some get it after certain years when they are matured in bb'ing

one side of the body is always stronger than the other cuz u use ur flexors more for one side
take a right handed man for example
in theory, his right hand for sure lagi kuat cuz he uses it for writing la, this la, driving la, TFK la, whatever la
but that's not really about strength its more on the flexors being tight and not and many other reasons
seriously, READ READ READ READ READ READ READ
u can ask things about ur workout routine etc
better yet, post vids also mane tau can help

im sure ur new to this
balancing is important also and ur body needs to get used to lifting / pushing / pulling / swinging / pressing / jumping

read this

Right arm bigger than the other

and this
Also another site

i've been there and penah kene marah by Terry Gallyot
he said must work the weaker muscle more but use lesser weight but more volume
i did but kena marah again cuz im using too little weight to work it out
trial and error bro trial and error

about ur diet, we cannot tell you in a precise manner how u shud go about it la
u plan to take 1 scoop + eggs? is that all ur having?
what about other nutrient source? veggies? fats? carbs? calcium? zinc? iron? etc etc
need to read more bro...

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post Apr 22 2010, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 22 2010, 05:44 PM)
ya i'm reading d all the info.. but i think ask should be faster right ??
and yeah , i'm still new , very new .. i plan to get a protein . that's around rm200 for 5lbs . 2 scoops of protein one day , then 10 eggs each day .. other nutrient source i didn't know it's necessary .. cause most people like didn't take only ?? so i thought protein is enough d ..  doh.gif

what else do i need then ?? i'm not planning to be like a body builder like wong hong ..i just wanna get like rain u know ? wear t-shirt looked really nice and get some strength ..

what could replace EZ bar curls ??
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as per what they said, u dun wanna be like wong hong but u wanna be like rain
have u google how he trained?
do u understand the mechanics of working out and main besi?
have u understood how your body works and its conditioning?
or my easiest question, have you worked out your diet?
water intake per day?
micro nutrient intake?

i ni tak la suke marah marah orang baru but when u said u think ask should be faster it reflects that u are not making enough effort for yourself and in anything bodybuilding or in what i do (LAW), I THINK ITS IDIOTIC...nuff said

QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 22 2010, 07:23 PM)
this is how i planned my work out ..i know it's kinda long .. but please help and correct any mistake .. i'm still new .. have been doing this for few weeks now .. without protein supplement .. plan to get one whey protein ... for my weight i think i gotta take in 132 g protein .. besides protein , can u guys tell me what other supplement i need to get ?? i know it's not easy .. and gotta eat and work out like wong hong .. it's just that for my height .. if i got such big muscles will be kinda funny .. please help  icon_question.gif

monday - rest (because normally sunday i'll sleep kinda late and wake up early on monday morning )

Tuesday - chest and forearm

for chest -Barbell Bench Press – 10-12 times, repeat 4 times
Barbell Incline Bench Press - 10-12 times , repeat 4 times

forearm -Wrist Curls 15-20 times - light weight, repeat 4 times
Reverse Wrist Curls - 15 to 20 times - light weight repeat 4 times.

wednesday - triceps and biceps

triceps -Skull Crushers, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times
Cable Press Downs, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times
Behind the Back Dumbbell Press Down, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times

biceps-Straight Bar Curls 10-12 times , repeat 4 times
Alternate Dumbbell Curls, 10-12 times , repeat 4 times
Thursday - upper and lower back

lower back - Deadlift- light weight , 15-20 times, repeat 4 times
Good Morning – light weight , 15-20 times, repeat 4 times
upper back - Seated Cable Row, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times
Barbell Row, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times
Pull Downs to the Front, 10-12 times , repeat 3 times

friday - deltoid and traps

deltoid - Dumbbell Shoulder Press -10-12 times , repeat 3 times
Dumbbell Side Laterals – 10-12 times , repeat 3 times
Dumbbell Front Raise- 10-12 times , repeat 3 times

traps- Barbell Upright Rows – 10-12 times, repeat 4 times
Barbell Shrugs – 10-12 times , repeat 4 times

saturday - rest

sunday start all over again from chest and forearm , tuesday is biceps and triceps .. meaning that every saturday and monday is offday ..i'm not training my abs since i think my abs is ok d ..please advise ..
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pening la baca
u have to construct properly
please refer to darklight79's workout journal and other journals too
u susun betul2 then we answer
dont bantai je and expect answers coming from the sky bro

and looking at ur routine, in my opinion concentrate on the compounds first cuz thats where u build ur strength, balancing, conditioning, and where u measure the angle, whether ur comfortable with the routine, when can u injure etc etc
when ur new, ur focus aint about hypertrophy in my opinion at least...its about getting the basics right dulu

like i said
MAKE A VISIT TO TERRY GALLYOT'S GYM CUZ I STARTED THERE TOO...
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post Apr 23 2010, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 22 2010, 11:29 PM)
You should be worried about not doing enough. It's very hard to overtrain as a beginner and intermediate. You should see how the professional bodybuilders advise people in their threads. One sentence, short, sweet and simple.

What absolutely slays me is that "Rip" doesn't claim Rippetoe to be a bodybuilding program. Per him. Why I try not to say too much about his program. Not his fault that a vocal percentage of people that follow his program are f*cking dolts.

It does suck though that his parrots on here are far more zealous about his program than he is. To him, it is a program for beginner's to achieve basic fitness results, etc. To them, it is the end all, be all program to do anything and everything.

To be a bodybuilder, TRAIN like a bodybuilder. Simple as abc.
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Apr 23 2010, 12:33 AM)
Allow me to add:
To be a bodybuilder, TRAIN like a bodybuilder, TRAIN WITH a bodybuilder.

If you're new, no point go balls out devicing your own programme. If you have no guidance, might as well follow rippetoe, stronglift, or Max OT, or whatever programme that works. Reason being they are simple and they give you a kick start until you're good enough to plan your own training.
Asking here is going to get you a million answer. All of them valid, but not necessarily applicable to you.

You want to be bodybuilder type: then you should refer to Darklight, Wildcat, Kmaru. Go to Terry's gym.
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nuff said
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post Apr 23 2010, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 23 2010, 05:30 AM)
Heh I remember my recovery used to be crap until I got my nutrition in order. Especially post and intra workout. Now DOMS isn't really an issue for me anymore. Bcaa's rule.
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i used to think that pre workout is just a myth (although ive been following rigorously without any faith in it i.e. high protein, medium carbs, low fat food 1-2 hours before workout + creatine)
but yesterday i was in a meeting til lunch hour and i only had 2 pieces of tuna sandwiches
was playing chest during lunchtime and i could not even press 25kgs dumbbell on flat (27.5 is my maximum 10reps depending on days) and could only stick to 15kgs db for my incline (maximum 10 reps is 22.5kgs)
SHE*T
lepas ni kene betul betul jaga
darn...
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post Apr 23 2010, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 23 2010, 05:49 PM)
so means my work out has no problem. i just hav to stick with it and take as much protein as i could?
i'm going to gym. i'm training with lots of people with better body than me. they teach me the work out, i went online to search the correct way to work out also .. it's just i'm not sure whether i'm doing enough or not enough .and also whether i'm taking enough of protein and other nutrients. please advice on that ... thanks ..
thank you chow, really helpful. but what's compounds and iso ? can explain further ?
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i thought chow is the signature of saying bye bye
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QUOTE(heroes of earth @ Apr 23 2010, 06:01 PM)
Thank you dan, got it. that's your body ?? huh .. i think it's nice .. the hand especially .. i heard if you have the size you want and you want to sort of tune it .how you do that ?
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there u go dan...
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what do u mean by tune tu?

 

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