complain directly to astro, they will then make improvement, future subscribers will thank you for it because they will enjoy less buggy byond box

This post has been edited by neb: Apr 10 2010, 11:03 PM

holy .... you mean we have to treat the HD decoder like a notebook and buy a Cooler Master underneath it ??
Even then, if I'm not wrong, those notebook cooler is not flat, so how to .....
This is REALLY getting VERY troublesome now

wow that's serious

mine only hanged twice since i had it

Small cooler is fine. Mine is big because that cooler use to cool my laptop before. Anyway, i would like if zoom funtion is back as 3rd option.

This post has been edited by Qash-M: Apr 10 2010, 11:20 PM

Bro..obviously there are certain things u seem not to be informed of..
U have not read previous threads is it?
Ok..there are 2 USB ports on the box..
U can use the laptop cooler if u want to reduce heat..
If u dont use the cooler, ur Byond box will still be fine
About ur remote control issue, u can use Byond remote to control volume and even turn on/off TV power..
U just need to synchronize the Byond remote with ur TV..
The instructions for it is in the Byond manual when u get it

Yes, I didn't read through all the posting here as I only knew last night that Astro is giving life-time warranty and free installation for Beyond and I was in the rush trying to understand more and quickly get it over and done over the weekend ....

Huh, luckily it has USB, so I just go and get a Cooler Master to solve the heat problem!

So you mean the Beyond remote control can "learn" from the TV remote control so we just need to use 1 remote ?
If like that not so bad la, at least still got 1 hand for the beer

It doesnt control everything..it just controls the volume, power of decoder and Tv and also connection output channel..
Like u wanna switch from HDMI mode to AV or others..
There are 2 USB ports..1 at the back aNd 1 at the front
Byond remote will have recording, play, rewind, fastforward function in the future..
U can read the manual once the Byond arrive or u can look at previous versions of this thread..

I work for them.

read the B.yond v.3 tread and talk to all the others on here about the zoom feature. I was probably the only one that used it, so they took it away.

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Added on April 11, 2010, 12:16 amwhat was solved? you cooled it down but you never had a problem.

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Added on April 11, 2010, 12:17 amI don't cool mine down, it's fine.

This post has been edited by TallJustin: Apr 11 2010, 12:33 AM

Mine is, only use the decoder 1-2 hours and is easily overheat. Cooled it down solved the problem.

This post has been edited by Qash-M: Apr 11 2010, 12:30 AM

yeah they can get warm but if it was over heating it wouldn't work

It's back to normal now. Was using HDMI.

Rather FatFat-Shortshort than screen burn in. Look up "LCD persistence". Different name, but same problem. If use Pillarbox too much soon screen will have faint bars because the black part will contrast with image part. Not everybody is so rich that they can afford to replace the TV everytime it burns in. As for zoom, tak nak. Cut off the head in many SD channels.

Er, there are 126 pages in V.3 I guess I just have to put down my beer and hold the TV remote .....

Sorry but I just couldn't understand what do you mean by you are probably the only 1 use that and "they" took it away?
Who are "they"? Astro? But why?

Mind me, the rest prefer to watch FFSS (FatFat-ShortShort) distorted TV is it ?? Or simply don't bother??

If like that also can, might as well design it to allow those who are still using CRT able to squeeze HD channels become SSTT (SlimSlim-TallTall) to fit into 4:3 nicely

Just couldn't understand how Astro can even think of designing a decoder like this, really amazing, really BEYOND imagination .....

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Added on April 11, 2010, 1:30 amI'm getting a Plasma and intend to upgrade to HD, that's why I'll NOT watch 4:3 in pillarbox to prevent burn-in.

Most LCD/Plasma has the function to zoom 4:3 to fit 16:9 by keeping the aspect ratio and I was hoping that the decoder has such function so I don't have to use TV remote to zoom between channels.

This post has been edited by klseet: Apr 11 2010, 01:30 AM

The zoom feature is really meant for watching 4:3 letter boxed programmes on a 16:9 screen,you get full frame picture and correct aspect ratio.

use it on a full frame SD channel and it will cut the top and bottom off the picture.

Anyway new plasma's have better burn in prevention technology. I wouldn't worry about it, just watch it in pillar box.

Or maybe the B.yond Software team can make a sofware that can bring animated pillarbox that prevents the burn-ins, the users can choose between their fav pillarbox design... Don't know its possible or not.

I'm guessing u wanna use the Tv remote out of laziness to find the page on how to sychronise TV and Byond remote is it?
Look at this page given..
http://stinkyfruit.wordpress.com/2010/03/0...-more-tv-codes/
It's from TallJustins' blog..
Yes he works as an Astro tech guy and regularly helps out here and updates us on latest news regarding tech stuff related to Astro
So when he refers to we, it means Astro k..

Bout the zoom mode, people were angry coz Astro took out the stretch mode
It left them with the zoom and pillar box mode
They wanted stretch mode back as another option but didnt mind if Astro wanted to keep the zoom mode as well as the pillar box mode
As it turns out however, TallJustin has noted that Byond box can only offer 2 options
Thats y Astro decided to give back the stretch mode along with pillar box
People didnt want to use the pillar box as it could have caused screen burn
N also the fact some just wanted their widescreen plasma and LCD to be filled up
Dont go blasting these pople coz everyone has their own viewing preferances
U'll be public enemy number 1 here if u knock people for watching distorted image in stretch mode
Its up to them whether they want correct aspect ratio or distorted image or fat people n stuff..up to them..me included

+...the problem with the zoom mode was it cut off the top and bottom part of the picture
Means if u were watching the news, the top of the womans forehead is gone
Watching a movie bottom line of the subtitle is gone
Watching a football match, the scoreboard at the top or bottom of the screen gone..
That was the reason people hated the zoom mode even though the picture quality was better

Okey..hope i have summarised the whole V3.0 thread for u klseet
Now u can do some reading regarding the Byond remote or just wait for ur Byond to arrive and see what u got

This post has been edited by dxjb: Apr 11 2010, 04:53 AM

Many thanks for the explanation dxib!

Actually I'm using "Cinama1" mode on my current Redza LCD output from the current Astro decoder.
It's able to fit full screen into 16:9 nicely, only small portion of sub-title and top section gone, but I don't really see a lot being chop, at least not to the extend that hair/head disappear.

So that's why I'm really hoping the new HD decoder can do that, or oblige to to that judging on the facts that :

1. we are paying for the new HD service which suppose to have proper HD display for all channels.
2. however, since not all the channels are in HD at this moment, the source provider Astro should indeed allow others who really want to see proper images with proper aspect ratio.
3. currently some of us use TV remote to setup zoom effect simply because we are paying the non-HD and that's a 1-time off setup on TV, the source provider Astro has no obligation to do so.
4. end of the day, we as the consumer really do not have control over the new HD decoder, Astro is the ONLY who has full control over the decoder, we are at their mercy.

Also thanks for reminding me not to become public enemy here, from now I won't talk about FFSS thing anymore.
My apologize if others feel unhappy about my words here, I really don't mean to angry anyone here.


Anywhere, I already submitted my application form and waiting for the "surprise" moment
Also I'll use the following device to consolidate all remote controls:
http://www.chunghop.com/en/products_view.asp?id=137
http://www.chunghop.com/en/products_view.asp?id=313

So, still got 1 hand on beer

Where to get these chungshop universal remotes in Malaysia ?

Bro..another thing probably u got wrong or I'm the one who doesnt understand u
The HD channels are in correct HD ratio..
The zoom/stretch debate only affected SD channels..
HD channel are still in HD ratio..no worries there mate..

Another thing is if u havent heard any response from Astro regarding ur application, its better to call and apply..
Online application takes a while and sometimes wont event have any effect..
Call straight to Astro n within 24 hours u should get a reply..
Installation will proceed in the next2-5days period

This post has been edited by dxjb: Apr 11 2010, 12:16 PM

Hi guys, just installed byond, and i have a question. I have a few HD TV, the one connected to the decoder of coz very clear, coz using hdmi cable. But, is it possible to make other tv also playing hd quality? coz when i use other tv, i only can watch standard quality.