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 Astro B.yond V4.1, WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD OF HD

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post Mar 29 2010, 10:48 AM

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Erm, Discovery HD has been known to be false alarm, unless Astro wants to surprise us or something. But maybe it might show up later this year. Astro PR promised at least 10 channels by end of 2010, who knows.

Now we're two Discovery HD channels behind the world. Not one, two.

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post Mar 29 2010, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Mar 29 2010, 01:05 PM)
something I just realised. When watching HD with Dolby Digital sound, the volume cannot be controlled by astro. Only can be adjusted on my AVR. anyone else noticed this?
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Known issue, volume canot be controlled when audio is output through HDMI. Use AVR volume control.

Iirc volume control only works for optical and RCA.

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post Mar 29 2010, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 29 2010, 02:46 PM)
No offences, HD has been there in the market ever since 2005 end , begining 2006. I watched Skysports in HD back in London somewhere in 2006.

That took ASTRO nearly 4 utter years to bring in HD. whistling.gif
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For what it's worth, Astro actually made the right choice to wait it out. In 2006, DVB-S2 was still in draft and HD was done using MPEG-2 over DVB-S which is bandwidth intensive. If Astro had went HD then, they'd have to upgrade again when DVB-S2 and H.264 went final last year. Plus, they also waited for MEASAT-3A to launch first instead of shoehorning the already crowded MEASAT-3. They won't be able to offer more than two HD channels if they use DVB-S and MPEG-2 over MEASAT-3.

Although I'm pretty confused on why Astro only use one satellite for SD and another for HD? Why not let both Measat 2 and 3 carry SD, and let 3A carry more SD channels as well as HD? That's what DishTV and DirecTV do in the US to be able to offer hundreds of channels. For example, use Measat 2 for AOD content, 3 for specific packages and 3A for HD and more specific packages? Then you'll have room for hundreds of channels.

Although, in the US, they have a pretty funny looking antenna called a "SuperDish" when they need to receive from 4 different satellites...

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post Mar 29 2010, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 29 2010, 03:46 PM)
Probably 2 satellites for 2 different broadcasting. SD & HD.
I guess the plan is to persuade Malaysians to upgrade to Astro Beyond fully, then they might have one Satellites  whistling.gif  sweat.gif
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We're so far already exactly that: M3 for SD and M3A for HD... why not stretch the game abit and use more than 2 for SD? We have 3 sats (4 if Measat hadn't sell/rent Measat-1 to Africa). So far only using 2.

Astro should move AOD back to Measat-2 so Measat-3 has more space. With the AOD channels freed up (that's 1-2 dozen channels), M3 can carry whole MTV, Star, HBO and Nat Geo ranges and still have wiggle room to spare.

Better yet, move AOD to IPTV. I notice that even latest SD decoder has Ethernet. Then have room for everything and you can claim that your AOD is true Video on Demand.

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post Mar 29 2010, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(m_imrun @ Mar 29 2010, 08:03 PM)
This is maybe the two sattelite that astro use is close to each other.
Anyway, i think Discovery HD is comig. Eventhough maybe not in april, but maybe soon. Remember astro has sign the agreement with Discovery.
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The agreement is to pay Astro $$$ for using Measat-3A to relay Discovery HD and Discovery World HD to rest of Asia. Whether Astro has to carry the channel was never mentioned. And that stinks. I hope that Astro getting to carry the channels is part of the deal tho. Astro has the entire Discovery SD range so far. It would be a shame if the same is not true for the Discovery HD range. And it's bad enough that Singapore already has Discovery HD before Malaysia.

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post Mar 30 2010, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(kelvin @ Mar 30 2010, 08:21 AM)
Any difference from 314 ?? 314 also showing TVB Classic drama mah.....
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Yet another TVB old shows channel.

Hey Justin, can you ask Astro to do us a favor? Ask them to stop being hypocrites?

You claim all BBC channels shows are old shows (which is a lie, the Dr. Who on BBCE is always the latest season, and Humf was only launched a few months ago and immediately picked up by CBeebies, making it bleeding edge) and that they're tired of it, and yet they bring in another old TVB shows channel. Despite the fact that you already have almost two dozen AOD/ABO channels that sometimes shows that, and a TVB channel that always shows that. And TV2, TV3, NTV7 and 8TV also shows old TVB shows as well. In other words, we have enough old TVB shows channels.

QUOTE(kelvin @ Mar 30 2010, 08:40 AM)
Maybe is April fool........
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Agreed. Considering that MSI also pulled theirs early (RTFM chip...)

QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Mar 30 2010, 09:35 AM)
I've seen the ad for Discovery HD also. Just now on Discovery Travel and Living. This is too often to be a blunder by Astro censors right? The ad shows splashing water, looks like the balls and paints ad on NatGeo HD, to highlight the HD capabilities.

Astro also does not confirm nor deny about this on their FB page, any insiders from Astro can confirm?
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Either case, we're now two Discovery HD channels behind.

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post Mar 30 2010, 10:40 AM

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Alright, I'll back down.

I'm still not satisfied with the fact that it's an error and we're neither getting Discovery HD or Discovery World HD in April tho.

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post Mar 30 2010, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Mar 30 2010, 02:10 PM)
these ads are all saying "This is what's out there, but they are not for you!!"
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It's saying "This is what even the Indonesians can get, but you Malaysians can't"

Malaysia boleh, eh? Full range of channels pun tak boleh. How to boleh?

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post Mar 31 2010, 10:12 AM

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Dun want to give us Discovery HD?

Dun expect money from my bill. Expect a termination call instead.

And if you insist on charging me RM300, You will need to talk to my lawyer.

What kind of &^%&%% deal do you need? Just take the &^%*^* offer and sign the a&^*(&) contract. We want the channel, we will pay. Even poor country like Indonesia has Discovery HD.

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post Mar 31 2010, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(freedom2912 @ Mar 31 2010, 02:03 PM)
spend too much time at work..no time to watch tv
rather than paying bills every month..better terminate lol  laugh.gif
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post Apr 2 2010, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Apr 2 2010, 02:40 PM)
clearly don't know what a monopoly means.
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Doesn't change the fact that Astro is monopolizing satellite TV in Malaysia.

Monopoly isn't too bad. It's when the monopolistic company decides to abuse it's status and subscribers that things get ugly.

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Apr 2 2010, 03:34 PM)
Infact most of our friends content are FTA chanels !
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Some shows make it to FTA over here, true. But local FTA has no respect for the content and only care about advertisements. I've seen shows that when they show commercial, they dun pause the show tape, so when come back from commercial or from solat, there's tons of missing scenes. And a particular channel has the worst case of trigger-happy censorship I've ever seen- since when are cartoon pigs not allowed to be shown on TV? In one nasty case, just a pig mask in a cartoon also cut. Yes, a toy that looks like a part of a pig in a cartoon! That also want to cut!

QUOTE(smileguy @ Apr 2 2010, 03:34 PM)
That MITV ! They could hv easily taken 1/2 out to them if only they kept their word and went nationwide but sad to say they chickened out for selfish reasons ! vmad.gif
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They didn't chicken out, they just failed due to their selfish reasons. Who will pay RM600 for a decoder and RM80 monthly for two only dozen channels at the time where Astro is practically giving the decoders away free?

And at that time Astro still semi-decent.

QUOTE(TallJustin @ Apr 2 2010, 03:38 PM)
that would be true if TV was only available over satellite but since it is not and there are lots of other players in the market including the web itself it is a mis-directed comment.
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Right, web.

Nick UK videos: You cannot watch this video because you're outside the UK
iPlayer: You cannot watch this video because you're outside the UK
Nick US videos: You cannot watch this video because you're outside the US
Hulu: You cannot watch this video because you're outside the US
Disney: You cannot watch this video because you're outside the US
Youtube: You cannot watch this video because you're outside the US/UK

Using a VPN: I've never achieved a speed that videos will just play naturally when viewing content through VPN. Plus, Hulu and many other providers are wising up and blocking VPN now.

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Apr 2 2010, 05:27 PM)
IPTV ? Its very unclear cos  the charges seem to very high, capping another issue, poor connections,no nation wide take off, then comes the question of contents,all these are in whose favour is of course a known fact  drool.gif   , 6 others having licence but cannot do business ? What the .... ? Cant we have a cable TV like megatv at least ? I doubt it cos nothing can takeor shall be ppermitted to take  A's place ! DETV is comfortable enough to go multi racial and nationwide why is it still hiding ? hmm.gif
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IPTV has nationwide takeoff, since it works out of the box with 1Mbps minimum. DETV actually delivers their decoder through courier, no installer comes to the house. Not sure about FineTV, but I assume the same applies. Only TM-IPTV is not nationwide because the CEO is extremely keras kepala and insist on only offering it to HSBB users.

It is agreed that FineTV makan orang, but DETV is quite reasonable (RM100 deposit for decoder refundable upon return of decoder, RM40 a month for one package or RM70 for both packages currently offered).

But yeah, capping is still a big issue with IPTV. The gomen has no ruling stating that IPTV packets cannot be capped. As a result I was warned by DETV to not use the decoder with P1, DiGi, Maxis BB, Celcom BB, etc.

As for DETV hiding, maybe they're preparing themselves...

QUOTE(neb @ Apr 2 2010, 06:05 PM)
fancy starting your own satellite tv operation, this satellite got 60 ku band transponders, you only needed one to begin drool.gif
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Good suggestion. Except that you forget that the gomen will not grant rights to start satellite PayTV. Partly because of Astro monopoly and partly because they blindly believe that IPTV is the future (nevermind that most people in Malaysia still has crappy internet connection. Even DETV has problems over stimix during "internet prime time" (which is around 10:30pm-midnight, when internet is very busy).

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post Apr 8 2010, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Apr 8 2010, 06:12 AM)
just like assto itself this forum too is turning sleepy !!!!!!!

One thing is sure as long assto keeps these pack of crap channels itsgoing to bore the nation until a new provider comes to teach it a lesson . I  wonder is it so hard to give us the HBO pack ? ! From what I see Beyond is not in demand at all, cosmost new customers know that old customers like us are already regreting the change, HD so what all repeat only ! NGC and History got nothing new fed up to watch already HBO mostly upscaled .Now World Cup so what no big deal in HD ! doh.gif
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Agreed. Why can't Asstro carry full channel lineup? That's my biggest gripe right there.

QUOTE(tme_guy @ Apr 8 2010, 11:01 AM)
Anyone here tried recording Astro Beyond channels? Wonder if there's a TV tuner card that's compatible with Windows Media Center that can do that.
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There is nothing stopping one from recording Beyond Channels through composite/component, but video quality is downscaled to 576i.

If you have the cash and patience, can use HDFury with Hauppage HD-PVR, AverMedia HD-DVR or Blackmagic Intensity Pro/Decklink to capture in HD. Of course, be warned that HD recording requires good CPU/GPU and a lot of hard disk space on a extremely fast hard disk. Cash because the aforementioned devices aren't cheap, and patience because the setting up of the thing requires some Rube-Goldberg complicated style linkings.

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post Apr 11 2010, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(klseet @ Apr 10 2010, 10:18 PM)
Why Astro want to "remove" the zoom option from the decoder which suppose to enrich viewing experience?  blink.gif
How many of us like to watch distorted "FatFat-Shortshort" TV?? cry.gif
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Rather FatFat-Shortshort than screen burn in. Look up "LCD persistence". Different name, but same problem. If use Pillarbox too much soon screen will have faint bars because the black part will contrast with image part. Not everybody is so rich that they can afford to replace the TV everytime it burns in. As for zoom, tak nak. Cut off the head in many SD channels.
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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Apr 11 2010, 02:01 AM)
The zoom feature is really meant for watching 4:3 letter boxed programmes on a 16:9 screen,you get full frame picture and correct aspect ratio.

use it on a full frame SD channel and it will cut the top and bottom off the picture.

Anyway new plasma's have better burn in prevention technology. I wouldn't worry about it, just watch it in pillar box.
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And how many SD channels broadcast letterboxed?

Also, I prefer LCD. Uses less power.

QUOTE(smileguy @ Apr 11 2010, 07:15 PM)
With repeated contents all year long I dont think recording feature really matters  hmm.gif
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Repeated contents is not their problem, it's the content providers. The problem can be circumvented if Asstro adds more channels. Problem is, they're adding new channels too slowly, and when they do add a channel all it shows are the same exact repeats as other channels (latest case of point: TVB Classic Drama. If half of the stuff wasn't on Wah Loi Toi before, it was on Xing He or RTM...)

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 12 2010, 01:29 PM)
*sigh* read the previous posts. Just because a channel is available on Measat-3A doesn't mean Asstro will carry it. Otherwise we'd already have Discovery HD and Boomerang.

Asstro is run by hypocrites that just don't care.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Apr 13 2010, 02:33 AM)
Every time you post something like this, I think your blood pressure goes up. So for your own health's sake, don't read this thread. And stop subscribing to Astro if they are causing you this much anxiety.
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I would, except that now they want RM500 if I cancel, say I signed two year contract. My contract was for one year! Even the contract copy I have said 1 year!

Not only the salesperson tell lies to get you to sign, they do trickery to your contract as well and make you cannot cancel for longer than the contract says! mad.gif vmad.gif

QUOTE(writesimply @ Apr 13 2010, 02:33 AM)
And they wouldn't want foreign channels either; they'd want local channels to be in HD. That's going to be a lot more money to spend than getting deals from HD channels because each 44-minute episode is going to cost RM50-80,000.
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When I sign up for satellite, the last thing I want is local programming. I'm sure there are many who feels that way too, especially expats. It's sad to hear/see that Asstro is still in their little world of their own, and thanks to big daddy gomen's protection, don't have to care if people are angry or not.

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Apr 13 2010, 11:31 AM)
I think it's time for you to try something more sophisticated, try hurling some molotov cocktail at their HQ.
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I'm going to just bite the bullet. Nothing I can do.

I'm done melepaskan geram now.

QUOTE(writesimply @ Apr 13 2010, 12:37 PM)
Then you could engage yourself a lawyer and find out if the B.yond contract is for one or two. I doubt it's for a two-year contract especially if the copy is right in front of you.

As others have said, it's only a two-year contract if you are a new subscriber to Astro.

We'll wait until you sort this problem out. Do let us know.
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Sorted out with another call to customer support. Previous cs rep who answered the call is clueless and called out the wrong thing, this other cs rep say I'm no longer under any obligation as my contract has expired and can terminate with no penalty.

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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Apr 14 2010, 05:17 PM)
Very interesting forum!  Am across the causeway and chance upon this forum while searching the terms "ESPN HD"  on the net.

f.y.i. Chinese Subtitles [Simplified characters] is available on HBO HD here.....it should be available depending if Astro wants to turn it on....there could be Malay Subts too.

Also,

HISTORY HD - Chinese Subtitles [Traditional characters]
Discovery HD World - no subtitles here cos Starhub took the fiber optic feed from the HQ here but understand there is Chinese Subts while watchin' in a friend's home in HK

not sure how to post pixs here.....so hope this helps.

cheers!
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You Singaporeans have it good. You guys have Discovery HD among many other things. We dun even have Discovery HD....

And oh, our HBO HD is one-hour-delayed for no good reasons (I do not consider censorship a good reason). At least you guys get HBO HD "live".



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