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 Astro B.yond V4.1, WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD OF HD

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post May 11 2010, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(eMKs @ May 11 2010, 11:11 AM)
but astro didn't use 1080p24 as a standard, maybe because old display not support this format.
The display does not do the video decoding; B.yond decoder does.

There is no reason for any HD movie channels that are broadcasting in PAL countries to not adopt 1080i24/720p24. Except maybe that they are afraid that people may find that their favorite Hollywood actors don't sound so teeny.
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Almost all display can handle 1080i50
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Most US displays sold can't do 1080i/p 25/50 even though it costs next to nothing to implement it.


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QUOTE(writesimply @ May 11 2010, 10:46 AM)
The 50Hz signal is only a factor when it comes to OTA broadcast via radio waves. Astro's signal is encoded prior to transmission, so there really is no need for 25fps video. Unless the feed comes from 25fps video camera, movies with 24fps telecine master need not be converted to 25fps.
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If you are asking why not 24fps, it is as good as asking why not catering some channels in 25fps, 29.97fps and 24fps.... imagine everytime u change channel to diff fps... the decoder will need to change fps mode signal to the tv... and the tv keep changing its display mode... it might be possible but annoying at the same time? the tv would go blank everytime i change to diff fps lol.... just as good as asking for pal+ntsc in one dvd, its possible... but rare..unless u force edit ureself.

i feel that the broadcaster just wanted to stick to one standard to avoid the problem above. It would be nice if they can do that, but... since it involves many diff things from the standards to many consumer's different tv... it gets complicated lol.

but it is different for YouTube =D. You see many diff fps possible (if u ever download them and analyze one by one), because of the computer progressive display.
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 11 2010, 01:21 PM)
If you are asking why not 24fps, it is as good as asking why not catering some channels in 25fps, 29.97fps and 24fps.... imagine everytime u change channel to diff fps... the decoder will need to change fps mode signal to the tv... and the tv keep changing its display mode... it might be possible but annoying at the same time? the tv would go blank everytime i change to diff fps lol.... just as good as asking for pal+ntsc in one dvd, its possible... but rare..unless u force edit ureself.

i feel that the broadcaster just wanted to stick to one standard to avoid the problem above. It would be nice if they can do that, but... since it involves many diff things from the standards to many consumer's different tv... it gets complicated lol.
Again, you set the setting on the decoder box. Just like how BD players can set the 1080p24 to auto or force it to always be on, the same thing can be done for the B.yond box. IF it's on, only the movie channels will be affected as they are the ones with the most 1080i/720p24 content. The rest would be 1080i50/720p25 content.

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but it is different for YouTube =D. You see many diff fps possible (if u ever download them and analyze one by one), because of the computer progressive display.
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The different fps possible is not because of the progressive display of the computer. A flat panel LCD/Plasma display is also a progressive display as they need to convert interlace to progressive even if the resolution is 1080i. Computers can do this because the GPU can match the video's FPS to the computer's refresh rates on the fly.


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post May 11 2010, 03:19 PM

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any news on additional HD channel?
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QUOTE(art6969 @ May 11 2010, 03:19 PM)
any news on additional HD channel?
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Probably next month on WC. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(writesimply @ May 11 2010, 01:34 PM)
Again, you set the setting on the decoder box. Just like how BD players can set the 1080p24 to auto or force it to always be on, the same thing can be done for the B.yond box. IF it's on, only the movie channels will be affected as they are the ones with the most 1080i/720p24 content. The rest would be 1080i50/720p25 content.

The different fps possible is not because of the progressive display of the computer. A flat panel LCD/Plasma display is also a progressive display as they need to convert interlace to progressive even if the resolution is 1080i. Computers can do this because the GPU can match the video's FPS to the computer's refresh rates on the fly.
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ahh i see, now that makes sense when i plug my laptop to my plasma at 60hz and every kind of fps plays fine lol...
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ May 11 2010, 05:11 PM)
ahh i see, now that makes sense when i plug my laptop to my plasma at 60hz and every kind of fps plays fine lol...
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some software like xbmc can force display refresh rate to match video, every time I start to play movie using my laptop, my tv will go blank for 2-3s. Some people might feel it annoying, but I find it is useful.
It will be good if Astro can do 1080p24 for some program like DIRECTV does. It actually uses almost same bandwith like 1080i50 that Astro currently using.
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QUOTE(eMKs @ May 11 2010, 06:07 PM)
some software like xbmc can force display refresh rate to match video, every time I start to play movie using my laptop, my tv will go blank for 2-3s. Some people might feel it annoying, but I find it is useful.
It will be good if Astro can do 1080p24 for some program like DIRECTV does. It actually uses almost same bandwith like 1080i50 that Astro currently using.
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1080p24? That's going to take time... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ May 11 2010, 04:03 PM)
Probably next month on WC. biggrin.gif
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i mean other channel such as AXN? MTV? DIscovery ?
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QUOTE(art6969 @ May 11 2010, 06:42 PM)
i mean other channel such as AXN? MTV? DIscovery ?
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AXN HD for SEA suppose around this month... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ May 11 2010, 06:48 PM)
AXN HD for SEA suppose around this month... smile.gif
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really hope astro can give more HD channel, and hopefully next EPL season, all match up will be on HD
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QUOTE(art6969 @ May 11 2010, 06:42 PM)
i mean other channel such as AXN? MTV? DIscovery ?
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Food Network HD - Possible SIN, MAl, KOR & TWN
http://www.contentasia.tv/pdf/Emag/95.Cont...il-9May2010.pdf

AXN HD - Launches May 25 in SIN & TBA Asia country
http://www.starhub.com/tv/packagebuilder.html?product=basic
http://www.casbaa.com/NewsDetail.aspx?id=0...93a345e42219cb3

FOX HD, FX HD, FOXCRIME HD, STAR WORLD HD, STAR MOVIES HD,
NAT GEO Adventure & NAT GEO WILD HD -- all channels already on AsiaSat 5 etc.
- No launch conutries announced yet.

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ May 11 2010, 06:48 PM)
AXN HD for SEA suppose around this month... smile.gif
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wow are u sure? if it is... its really a great addition, watching series in hd is among the highlight =D
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QUOTE(chuppachop @ May 11 2010, 07:22 PM)
Food Network HD - Possible SIN, MAl, KOR & TWN
http://www.contentasia.tv/pdf/Emag/95.Cont...il-9May2010.pdf

AXN HD - Launches May 25 in SIN & TBA Asia country
http://www.starhub.com/tv/packagebuilder.html?product=basic
http://www.casbaa.com/NewsDetail.aspx?id=0...93a345e42219cb3

FOX HD, FX HD, FOXCRIME HD, STAR WORLD HD, STAR MOVIES HD,
NAT GEO Adventure & NAT GEO WILD HD -- all channels already on AsiaSat 5 etc.
- No launch conutries announced yet.

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StarHub is first, which is second platform is...?

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AXN HD is free for customers with Entertainment Basic Group and HubStation HD/HD Interactive set-top box from
25 May to 31 July 2010.


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post May 11 2010, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ May 11 2010, 07:32 PM)
StarHub is first, which is second platform is...?
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AXN HD....could be Astro or now TV in HK….

Since AXN HD is free till Jul 31, likelihood Starhub would package AXN HD with FOX HD, FX HD, FOXCRIME HD & STAR WORLD HD into a possible ‘Entertainment HD’ group -- Hence could be a Jul/Aug launch date across Asia.

Just like ‘Education HD’ now comprises of History HD, Nat Geo HD & Discovery HD World.

Cheers.

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QUOTE(chuppachop @ May 11 2010, 07:41 PM)
AXN HD....could be Astro or now TV in HK….

Since AXN HD is free till Jul 31, likelihood Starhub would package AXN HD with FOX HD, FX HD, FOXCRIME HD & STAR WORLD HD into a possible ‘Entertainment HD’ group -- Hence could be a Jul/Aug launch date across Asia.

Just like ‘Education HD’ now comprises of History HD, Nat Geo HD & Discovery HD World.

Cheers.
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ermmm... I think singapore and HK will be airing AXN HD first.... sad.gif
But really hope that's Malaysia... on Astro.... notworthy.gif

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Ah, so two mysteries have been solved. One carrier will be Starhub and the launch date will be 25th May. Will the other carrier be Astro? Pleassssssseeeeeeee. Let it be Astro!
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ok guys..take a look on astro's FB..or look at the link below..

12 World Cup Channels on ASTRO

12 dedicated channels available both in HD and SD..
So this confirms what I have been saying all along..

World Cup channels is NOT PART of the 10 HD channels promised by astro..

So astro still owes us another 5HD channels

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QUOTE(dxjb @ May 11 2010, 09:42 PM)
ok guys..take a look on astro's FB..or look at the link below..

12 World Cup Channels on ASTRO

12 dedicated channels available both in HD and SD..
So this confirms what I have been saying all along..

World Cup channels is NOT PART of the 10 HD channels promised by astro..

So astro still owes us another 5HD channels
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10 additional HD channel? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ May 11 2010, 09:52 PM)
10 additional HD channel? shakehead.gif
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Not sure but what I think is the HD will only be available when a game goes on..
Much like ESPN HD right now..


Added on May 11, 2010, 9:57 pm
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Astro sports customers can experience the 2010 FIFA World Cup™ euphoria via 12 channels, including 10 dedicated channels in bringing all 64 matches, live in both High Definition (HD) and Standard Definition (SD) for one month starting from June 11. This will be Astro’s first HD broadcast of the 2010 FIFA World Cup™ on Astro B.yond.

Astro’s sports proposition extends beyond linear TV to online where its sports customers can enjoy live video streaming of all matches via www.astro.com.my/stadiumastro. Malaysians who are non customers of Astro can also register on www.astro.com.my and enjoy free access to 64 live matches of 2010 FIFA World Cup™.

Besides a strong TV and online presence, Astro has collaborated with Maxis Berhad to bring mobile content of the 2010 FIFA World Cup™ exclusive to Maxis customers via the Astro B.player application on hand-held devices. The Astro B.player application is the latest service innovation by Astro B.yond, which enables live streaming of all matches, downloading of caller ringtones, news alerts and videos on the phones anytime, anywhere.

In addition to the 10 (ten) 2010 FIFA World Cup™ channels, in support of localization, selected live matches are also available on two other Astro’s channels; Astro Arena (Channel 801) in Bahasa Malaysia commentary and Astro Wah Lai Toi (Channel 311) in Cantonese commentary while Astro Vaanavil (Channel 201) will broadcast match highlights at 7pm daily during the World Cup.

The access to the 10 dedicated channels for 2010 FIFA World Cup™ is available to all Astro sports customers. Consumers can call 1 300 82 3838 or visit www.astro.com.my to subscribe to the sports pack.


This is the Astro FB statement

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