Anfieldude, do you think its worth paying abt RM2000 more for a p50v20 instead of getting a p50u20?

Have not seen the V20 to comment however the RM2000 will basically go to the Anti Reflection Coating (which shd mean better blacks, and better colour reproduction with ambient lighting) and hopefully the Pro mode that allows for calibration in the user menu. The panel will also be of higher grade and built to a tighter tolerance.

The biggest chunk of the RM2000 will be in the NeoPDP panel. What this means is that essentially brighter whites/colours (without clipping) and lower power consumption. With the ARC and the NeoPDP panel, the contrast ratio will be significantly higher. There will also be a sharper image as the NeoPDP panels have lest dithering.

For me that is RM2000 well spent.

Then again, I hv not viewed the panel...but some of this still stands.

I saw some of u guys getting the U 50"...
wonder how was it playing on Xbox360 ?

thanks a lot. What you say is very true. Also I hear it is purely Made in Japan and also comes with 5 years warranty. Maybe it isw worth adding that little more.

lol just now the shop call me said p50u20k don have stock now call me wait unit june 4/5 .... boring wan wait so long .... samsung c6500 plasma good ?

The offer is way too good to be true. Maybe you need to long long wait.

FYI there are lots of stock everywhere else. Almost every place also got stock. Only no such pricing.

i cannot wait ady cannot tahan .... i think i will go samsung c6500 not sure ... btw u know v20 when market have ?

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This post has been edited by ask8900: May 25 2010, 10:00 PM

was not referring to you. Did you see any quote?

If I have been offered a deal of Rm4k with 50u20 + BD45, I think it is worth to wait for another 1 or 2 weeks.

Why let go such a wonderful deal to get other expensive model?

I can drive down to Melaka to get ur offered deal if u want to chAnge of model.

Don't waste this deal.

me2 me2
although ordered from homedec and the shop called me got stock adi...
but new house not ready so i tell them to store there....
even late june is fine for me

With the current prices of the 42V20 ~ RM4600, the prices that u guys quoted for the 50V20 is pretty good. If the technical specs are similar to The VT except the 3D (this remains to be seen), this makes a Full HD 50in PDP (a good one if it meets the specs) very affordable.

Is there a street date on the 50V20?

Also is the 42V20 already being delivered to customers?

I wouldn't mind waiting for 1 or 2 months either.You are one of those persons who should know well enough what this is. He he he. You know what I and many of the old timers here mean.

Sorry I could not get the unit from you as I am in North and you are in Central on my recent enquiry.

So, what is the latest or cheapest price for the 50v20 currently?

seen a review of Panasonic TC-P50S2 on plasma TV buying guide. Think this is europe or US model. It was rated as best plasma choice for 50" plasma among other makers. see...

http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/pla...0s2-review.html

It seems a V20 equal

and it is priced at $1169, means @ 3.3 = RM3857....

shall we wait???

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Panasonic TC-P50S2 Plasma TV Review

Overview Review Specifications Calibration


Model: Panasonic Viera TC-C50S2
Description: 50" Full 1080P HD Plasma TV
Reviewer: Phil Conner
Date: Spring 2010




Test and Optimum Viewing Distance: 12 feet


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calibration results
Calibration Notes: Overall, calibration to D6500K was very easy with this TV. Though there are no white balance adjustments available on the menu without entering the service menu, the 50S2 calibrated so close to D65 from the start that it would have improved the TV inappreciably. We started our calibration from the custom setting in the Warm 2 color temperature position. The S2 series TV does not contain the THX picture setting option. Follow the following settings to calibrate to a nearly perfect D65. These picture settings are best viewed in a controlled light environment fairly dark room:

Picture Mode Custom Color Mgmt: OFF
Color Temp Warm2 x.v.Color: OFF
Brightness +74 C.A.T.S.: OFF
Contrast +75 Video NR: Weak
Color +45 Block NR: Off
Tint -2 Misquito NR: Off
Sharpness +15 Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: Off
HD Size: 2
Picture Presentation from 480i signals: We always test every TV with a 480i resolution. It is a great test of a TVs upconversion and processing chip sets. The signal may be likened to what you would see with your normal digital cable or satellite signal.The TC-P50S2 series plasma contains the new an updated version of the NEO PDP (i.e. plasma screen) from Panasonic. This is the same screen used in some of the higher end Panasonic series which should make this model a good value if picture quality is your primary objective. We find the picture quality overall improved from the prior S1 series. The drives do a little better job of eliminating motion artifacts than the S1 series did. Color rendition is still with black levels being the primary progress area of the S2 series delivering more depth and solidity. As was the case on the S1 series, brightness is a strength of the these newer Panasonic plasma models.


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test results
1080p HD Picture Quality: The picture presentation of the from the 50S2 is still very bright and with the improved black levels much improved. Black levels are deep and strong with an HD signal input through HDMI. While not the best we've seen lately, they lose the dark gray haziness that the S2 can display with a 480i signal. Color is plenty saturated and dark shadow detail remains excellent.


This shot shows a nice bright background with realistic flesh tones and vibrant color
Black Level/Contrast: Black levels were an area that the S1 series needed a makeover on. They got it with this S2 series. These are not going to be the best black levels we see this year and we dont anticipate them coming close to some of the Samsung plasma black levels. However, Panasonic has brought black levels back into welcomed focus. Final ANSI contrast measurement was 1261:1 which is a nice improvement over last year but far from what we want. One of the TVs greatest strengths lies in its white brightness which measured an average luminance of 31.50. This result nears LCD TVs in brightness and points to Panasonic's desire to compete with LCD TVs in this area.

Dark Shadow Detail: Partly due to the high brightness of this plasma dark shadow detail is excellent. Panasonic plasma TVs have long been a favorite of ours in this important area.

Color Rendition/Color Accuracy: Color rendition is much more saturated with HD content. The TV excels with HD content and is much more subdued in presentation with lower signals. Colors can seem a little weak and hazy at times with lower end signals. I will give them the thumbs up on reality however.


Color background information appears super saturated in this brightly lit HD image of singer/guitarist Orianthi.
Viewing Angle/Off Axis Viewing: The 50S2 displayed perfect off axis viewing of 90 degrees without degradation of contrast.

Motion Lag: There was no motion lag apparent in any content viewed.

False Contouring/ Mapping: We noted very little banding around images like the sun or rounded objects in dark scenes.



Features: One of the key feature differences of the S2 series with the G20 series of plasma by Panasonic is the absense of The Viera Cast feature set, which enables online content via a web interface. As a result, there is also no Ethernet port. The included Viera Link feature allows the user to control other Viera link capable outboard equipment. Viera Image viewer is the Panasonic compatible technology which enables use of SD memory card viewing via the SD card slot.The S2 has discrete picture settings for each input as well as Panasonic's new "600 Hz" specification for blur reduction.

This TV is Energy Star compliant due to an energy saver feature option. Power consumption for the S2 has been reduced from the S1. This is one of the main feature differences aside from improved black levels. Panasonic started improving efficiency in their plasma TVs in 2007 and have improved it 400% with this S2 model. They are now close enough to LCDs in energy efficiency that is should not matter.

Aesthetic Considerations: The black gloss bezel framing is a little wide for my taste at over 2 inches. Panasonic designates the design of the new S2 series as the "Clean Touch Bezel Design". At first glance it appears there are speaker perforations throughout the bezel, however upon closer inspection they are are not speakers but just raised vertical tabs. It's an average, fairly plain looking screen, not in any way refined or unique. The TV depth is average for a 50" screen at 3.7".

Video Aspect Ratio Sizing: The Format button on the remote controls this function with options: Just, 4:3, Zoom, Full, H-Full. Panasonic's Just aspect ratio setting does a great job of displaying an algorithmically balanced picture image.

Inputs: 3 HDMI, 2 Component, 1 15pin PC, digital SD card slot.

Remote Control/Menu Funtionality: The menu is very simple and straightforward but with ample options except white balance controls. Picture settings are discrete per input which is always a plus. The remote is functional, easy to use and rather plain.

Audio Output: There is no voice enhanced feature option for sound though I found the volume to be sufficient. Sound is a little muddy and I would recommend every TV include a voice enhanced option as so much broadcast material these days needs it. Speakers are 10W X 10W. The A-I sound option equalizes sound as a compressor and is useful for watching TV by toning down volume increases in those annoying ads.



The 50S2 is priced at an attractive $1169. The main two features of the G20 over the S1 is inbuilt Internet compatibility and the THX picture setting. The newer NEO PDP screen and other features are basically the same and so is the picture quality. Competition from other manufacturers in the plasma arena will be the Samsung PN50C6500 and Samsung PN50C7000. LG contends with the LG 50PK550 and the LG 50PK750 which is THX certified, has Netcast, and TruBlack features to boot.



Rating scale from 70 (denoting poorest quality) to 100 (signifying the very best quality). A rating in the 60s for any particular category of a product review indicates a serious defect which causes the product not to operate properly. Picture quality is double-weighted in the Overall Rating Score calculation.

Overview Review Specifications Calibration


Review Equipment Used: Sony Blu Ray BDP-S1 High Definition DVD player, Sony DVP-S50 DVD player (480i), Digital Broadcast Television, Sencore Color Pro 5000, Sencore Auto Cal Pro TWC6500, Sencore signal generator.

This post has been edited by Kieff: May 26 2010, 12:20 AM

Got a friend who ordered it from Homedec. P42V20 delivered. Friend was playing Avatar BD in a brightly lit room at night and it looks so good. Very good blacks and bright.

Can't comment on whether PQ beats U20 but I suspect for normal viewers, the U series should be good enough.

Also, the P42V20 has LAN connection for the Viera Cast + 2 USB ports.

it's a shame , unlike us , very very few TV retailers heard of our anfieldude . if i were them , i would engage him to review every popular make and model. it makes life so much easier for the about-to-be buyer and including the TV seller as well. really like anfieldude short and get to the point type of intro/presentation/recomendation


maybe he should open a shop selling TV and we all buy from him. what say you anfieldude

Actually, to tell u the truth, it is easier for me to comment on all types and brands of displays becoz I am not associated to any brand or display type. So there is no bias, if I were to actually sell them or be associated with them, then the judgement would be biased I think.

If this were my day job, then it would be difficult to knock down displays, and I doubt any retailer would want me to say bad things about the stuff they sell..

ask8900,

you got my pm?

can pm me the shop?

big THANKS!