Minimum Phenom II X3 and MXM descreet Ati 5450 Graphics
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Nov 19 2010, 01:25 PM
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Minimum Phenom II X3 and MXM descreet Ati 5450 Graphics
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Nov 19 2010, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Nov 19 2010, 01:25 PM) I think built-in graphics from the mobo also can. But if you want to bitstream TrueHD etc, then the ATI 5450 discreet card is a must.Added on November 19, 2010, 2:50 pm QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 19 2010, 11:53 AM) what is the screen resolution supported in dell zino? want to hook up my hdready crt tv to dell zino if possible, via a pc to tv converter (which supports up to 1600x1200 resolution). Why would you want to use the PC to TV convertor? I'm sure you would not have problems to connect directly. I believe the Zino can support resolutions up to and including 1920 x 1080.This post has been edited by jchue73: Nov 19 2010, 02:50 PM |
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Nov 19 2010, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Nov 19 2010, 02:49 PM) I think built-in graphics from the mobo also can. But if you want to bitstream TrueHD etc, then the ATI 5450 discreet card is a must. He is asking about Bluray playback of course it is a TrueHDif normal MKV a build in Ati 4330 will do... but hey look at Zino it is so cheap might as well throw a few upgrades for future proofing... |
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Nov 19 2010, 03:58 PM
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coz my crt tv only have component/RCA video/S-video port. so i guess component cable shld give the best video quality in this situation. therefore the pc to tv converter is used to connect from my pc (or future dell zino) using vga port to component video
Added on November 19, 2010, 2:50 pm Why would you want to use the PC to TV convertor? I'm sure you would not have problems to connect directly. I believe the Zino can support resolutions up to and including 1920 x 1080. [/quote] |
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Nov 19 2010, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Nov 19 2010, 03:46 PM) He is asking about Bluray playback of course it is a TrueHD True. If I was starting out, the Zino presents as a very viable option.if normal MKV a build in Ati 4330 will do... but hey look at Zino it is so cheap might as well throw a few upgrades for future proofing... Anyway, I'm also playing Blurays. I don't have any HDMI AVR and rely on soundcard downmix to stereo. Added on November 19, 2010, 4:29 pm QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 19 2010, 03:58 PM) coz my crt tv only have component/RCA video/S-video port. so i guess component cable shld give the best video quality in this situation. therefore the pc to tv converter is used to connect from my pc (or future dell zino) using vga port to component video Ok, understood.This post has been edited by jchue73: Nov 19 2010, 04:29 PM |
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Nov 19 2010, 04:39 PM
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can play but you cant do DTS-MA and Dolby TrueHD the purpose of getting blurays is to enjoy picture and sound quality
but yeah you can play blurays on a Hardware accelerated graphic cards now days but your experience is not optimized lah... furthermore if you upgrade to MXM cards you are future proofing your unit as MXM card can be upgraded (MXM is a adapter designed by nvidia for easy replacement and upgrades) |
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Nov 19 2010, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Nov 19 2010, 02:49 PM) I think built-in graphics from the mobo also can. But if you want to bitstream TrueHD etc, then the ATI 5450 discreet card is a must. I think current AMD chipset still cannot handle HD audio bitstream.If u need a HTPC that can bitstream HD audio, look for Intel HD55 chipset motherboard and paired it with Core i3 cpu, no need to buy additional GPU, Intel Integrated Graphic is good enough liao. |
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Nov 19 2010, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Nov 19 2010, 06:30 PM) I think current AMD chipset still cannot handle HD audio bitstream. Yeah, I'm aware of this. Only thing coming from AMD / ATI that can do bitstream is the ATI 5xxx graphics card.QUOTE(piscesguy @ Nov 19 2010, 06:30 PM) If u need a HTPC that can bitstream HD audio, look for Intel HD55 chipset motherboard and paired it with Core i3 cpu, no need to buy additional GPU, Intel Integrated Graphic is good enough liao. That's correct. For those who are stuck with G45 / P45 chipset platform like myself, the ATI 5xxx or the Asus Xonar soundcard is the way to go.Anyway, what's the point of TrueHD bitstreaming when I don't have an AVR and speakers to fully utilise it? |
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Nov 19 2010, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Nov 19 2010, 06:44 PM) Yeah, I'm aware of this. Only thing coming from AMD / ATI that can do bitstream is the ATI 5xxx graphics card. Oh, I didn't aware that u don't have an AVR..then no point to bitstream lor.. That's correct. For those who are stuck with G45 / P45 chipset platform like myself, the ATI 5xxx or the Asus Xonar soundcard is the way to go. Anyway, what's the point of TrueHD bitstreaming when I don't have an AVR and speakers to fully utilise it? |
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Nov 19 2010, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Nov 19 2010, 06:44 PM) Yeah, I'm aware of this. Only thing coming from AMD / ATI that can do bitstream is the ATI 5xxx graphics card. Just buy one la That's correct. For those who are stuck with G45 / P45 chipset platform like myself, the ATI 5xxx or the Asus Xonar soundcard is the way to go. Anyway, what's the point of TrueHD bitstreaming when I don't have an AVR and speakers to fully utilise it? Mostly all latest AVR nowdays already have a TrueHD/DTS-HD feature. |
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Nov 19 2010, 11:18 PM
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oh Ati 5450 can do 24p stable... tried it loving it!!!!
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Nov 20 2010, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(minimize @ Nov 19 2010, 10:10 PM) i reckon he said he don't even have speakers for it. probably no HT setup yet. QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Nov 19 2010, 11:18 PM) noticed any motion judder? |
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Nov 20 2010, 10:36 AM
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on mkv - nope, on m2ts - nope, not tried bluray yet but I assume it is a nope
it has a additional buffer time which made 24p playback a stable one... |
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Nov 20 2010, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Nov 20 2010, 10:36 AM) on mkv - nope, on m2ts - nope, not tried bluray yet but I assume it is a nope that's what i thought. initially.it has a additional buffer time which made 24p playback a stable one... plug the 5450 to a large screen tv, a plasma tv (which generally have higher motion resolution than an LCD/LED LCD) or a projector (preferably DLP) and you'll notice plenty of motion juddering. i first notice it at A&L Audio (IINM they're running either Optoma HD20 or HD67 can't remember) and straight away i can notice the motion judder on my setup (playback at A&L is a lot smoother). nothing that i do will make it go away. running 3:2 pulldown to 60Hz will reduce it, but won't totally remove the judder (but it also made the motion be too smooth for my preference, like soap opera effect). thanks to echohesian, i ran ReClock and it goes away. never noticed it before when i was running on an LCD TV. motion judder are largely more noticeable on bigger screen. more area for the unresolved lines to appear. |
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Nov 20 2010, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 20 2010, 11:13 AM) that's what i thought. initially. i am using 46inch samsung series 9 led tv (Not 3d version) and playback with ati 5770 using 23.976 also using the motion 100hz found on samsung and notice no motion juddering.plug the 5450 to a large screen tv, a plasma tv (which generally have higher motion resolution than an LCD/LED LCD) or a projector (preferably DLP) and you'll notice plenty of motion juddering. i first notice it at A&L Audio (IINM they're running either Optoma HD20 or HD67 can't remember) and straight away i can notice the motion judder on my setup (playback at A&L is a lot smoother). nothing that i do will make it go away. running 3:2 pulldown to 60Hz will reduce it, but won't totally remove the judder (but it also made the motion be too smooth for my preference, like soap opera effect). thanks to echohesian, i ran ReClock and it goes away. never noticed it before when i was running on an LCD TV. motion judder are largely more noticeable on bigger screen. more area for the unresolved lines to appear. Remarks: using 10.6 driver. |
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Nov 20 2010, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 20 2010, 11:13 AM) that's what i thought. initially. Glad to know that you gotta a smooth playback now... mine is still not working with i3 , I guess because you are using a discreet GPU insteadplug the 5450 to a large screen tv, a plasma tv (which generally have higher motion resolution than an LCD/LED LCD) or a projector (preferably DLP) and you'll notice plenty of motion juddering. i first notice it at A&L Audio (IINM they're running either Optoma HD20 or HD67 can't remember) and straight away i can notice the motion judder on my setup (playback at A&L is a lot smoother). nothing that i do will make it go away. running 3:2 pulldown to 60Hz will reduce it, but won't totally remove the judder (but it also made the motion be too smooth for my preference, like soap opera effect). thanks to echohesian, i ran ReClock and it goes away. never noticed it before when i was running on an LCD TV. motion judder are largely more noticeable on bigger screen. more area for the unresolved lines to appear. |
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Nov 20 2010, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Nov 20 2010, 11:30 AM) i am using 46inch samsung series 9 led tv (Not 3d version) and playback with ati 5770 using 23.976 also using the motion 100hz found on samsung and notice no motion juddering. good for you. my eyes seem to notice the judder even at 23.976Remarks: using 10.6 driver. or maybe it's just my system hehe |
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Nov 20 2010, 06:18 PM
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yeap Ati 5 series has hardware acceleration very smooth playback...
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Nov 20 2010, 09:42 PM
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Guys, need comfirm one thing.. Maybe i will get this Graphic card HD5570 since now are rarely hard to get 5450, but i found this card dun have HDMI output, only got Display port, DVI and D-sub, now my AVR only support HDMI input, so i have to use DVI to HDMI dongle just like i did with my HD4670, so we know that HD4xxx cant bitstream True HD sound to AVR, but HD5xxx series can do that, ok if i use the DVI to HDMI dongle, did it still support at HD5xxx, i worry after i bought this one back still cannot bitstream to my AVR, it will become no different with my HD4670 now...
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Nov 20 2010, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Nov 20 2010, 09:42 PM) Guys, need comfirm one thing.. Maybe i will get this Graphic card HD5570 since now are rarely hard to get 5450, but i found this card dun have HDMI output, only got Display port, DVI and D-sub, now my AVR only support HDMI input, so i have to use DVI to HDMI dongle just like i did with my HD4670, so we know that HD4xxx cant bitstream True HD sound to AVR, but HD5xxx series can do that, ok if i use the DVI to HDMI dongle, did it still support at HD5xxx, i worry after i bought this one back still cannot bitstream to my AVR, it will become no different with my HD4670 now... hi bro,no u cant use dvi to hdmi dongle which u still cant get truehd or dtsma sound from avr, so my suggestion is get from brand like sapphire for ati 5 series which i did for mine that i have hdmi port. |
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