@entryman:Those other biotech branches appear lately.
Before this,only Plant Biotech.

@Fantasia:Anyway,enjoy your life there.
No comment on your choice and ur words about studying locally or not.

the facilities for biotech in monash sunway is still very basic. well, according to my friend who's doing food science there. its a still a very new course.

IINM, ucsi is the pioneer of all the IPTS is biotech course. already produced graduates for many years in Malaysia. facilities are good, new ones are building, more of their lecturers are doing their Ph.D and had received some awards.

of course, i can't give u solid facts on why is it one of the best la.

Oooh.. well I'm not sure about Notts science programmes too. And I don't think anyone in here is doing the biotech programme?

Anyway, as for the staff, I'm sure they're comparable too? People

@zstan:You can..because they are the pioneer in this field in malaysia..
not really sure bout monash.
but for engineering over here,lecturers do lotsa research and some receive awards also.lol

If u had seen the syllabus for biotech in nottingham and ucsi, u will know y i choose ucsi. if i go oversea, i'm aiming for university of queensland. u may say then y not study in taylor's since they r doing twinning with that uni too. but what if i suddenly change my mind and decide to do it locally? beside, ucsi allow me to do credit transfer/twinning not just australia uni, they also offer some uni from uk, canada and nz.
i think i use the wrong phrase. i mean something like student exchange programme. it's not about company
i know nottingham offer both general biotech and plant's biotech. but i already compared both syllabus from ucsi's biotech and nottingham's general biotech. i prefer ucsi 1.y?? u can look at nottingham's general biotech syllabus and compare with ucsi 1
i will ^^ feel a bit sad coz i really like nottingham's environment.

This post has been edited by Fantasia: Aug 22 2010, 02:06 AM

@Fantasia:It's Aussie,not Austria.
Undoubtedly,Nott Bioscience dept is not so strong in the moment as it is still quite new.
Comparatively,Plant Biotech dept is much better.
I think it's the only plant biotech research centre in malaysia.
no nid to sad la...haha..
just come here often to visit..
not too far..
i have a fren in ucsi too..
long didnt contact..

sry, typo XD. *edited.
nottingham's general biotech still new. i think they still need to arrange their syllabus. i still find it not much different from plant's biotech. my house to semenyih very far -.-" i live near sunway pyramid

wow,that;s good..
can always visit Jaben..
oops..i am talking at the wrong section haha..
hmm..i am not really sure..
but first year the syllabus wont differ a lot..
perhaps that's the reason..
they will soon expand la..
just need more time..

Compared and I like Notts.

http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Faculties/Sci...technology.aspx

http://www.ucsi.edu.my/programmes/BScBiotechnology.asp

Come on. UCSI is like so dead, no electives until third year, and what, so few only...
Not an expert in Biotech, but it seems Nottingham covers whatever UCSI covers as well, with more breath in the courses. Why would you say UCSI's better?

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Added on August 22, 2010, 2:23 amIf you are interested in what Nottingham is really teaching, go to:
http://modulecatalogue.nottingham.ac.uk/no...main_search.asp
and type in the course name. You get a brief for what the module is going to deliver to you.
This is what Malaysia education is not doing. Their module structures usually do not get published and you won't know if your Chemistry I (for example) covers how much chemistry compare to others' Chemistry I. Skeptical I would say.

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Added on August 22, 2010, 2:23 amFeel that I am like a salesman, bashing others. LOL!

This post has been edited by tanjinjack: Aug 22 2010, 02:23 AM

But one thing for sure,is that I heard UCSI can graduate earlier..
They don't have such long summer break =)

Actually UCSI is very elective. You get to choose which subjects in the beginning of each semester. You are compulsory to take certain subjects in year 3. If u study the syllabus carefully, you will notice UCSI is more on general while Nottingham is more specifically on plants. For the link you provided, mind to teach me how to use??

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Added on August 22, 2010, 2:36 amOh nevermind, I got it...

This post has been edited by Fantasia: Aug 22 2010, 02:36 AM

@Fantasia:It's ok one.
As long as u like it.
Your uni life might be a little hectic as lack of long holidays.
And as u can see,u have two placements for year 2 n 3.
while nott one is found by own.
each has pros and cons.
anyway,hope u good luck.

i used to travel back and forth from shah alam to semenyih every day, passing by pyramid along the way lol

If you look again at Notts' module outline.
http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Faculties/Sci...technology.aspx

Your core modules will be in Year 1 and Year 2. And also you have a choice of a number of electives.

And for Year 3, it's ALL electives. And I would say the electives that you will be choosing in Year 3 will be either a continuation, or a supplementation of the electives you chose in Year 1 and 2, i.e. your areas of interest.

Within the first week of classes you're still allowed to change your electives if you feel that it's not suitable. [correct me if I'm wrong guys].

It's not specifically on plants. I tried to place myself in the shoes of a scientist, and I saw that I could focus on food science+nutrition, while still having some electives on plants.

And this would be my choice:

YEAR 1
Semester 1:
Introductory Biochemistry
Genetics and Cell Biology
Whole Organism Biology
+ 30 credits Optional Modules from:
Techniques in Plant Biotechnology
Applications of Biology
Plant Science
Introduction to Nutrition

Semester 2:
Introductory Biochemistry
Genetics with Specialist Options
Data Transfer Analysis and Presentation
+ 30 credits Optional Modules from:
Microbial Physiology
Plant and Cell Physiology: Growth and Differentiation
Applied Entomology
Introduction to Nutrition
Food Hygiene

YEAR 2
Semester 1:
Molecular Pharming
Mammalian Biochemistry 1 – Development
+ 40 credits Optional Modules from:
Introductory Plant Pathology
Plant and Cell Physiology: Energy, Water and Nutrients
Community and Whole Plant Physiology
Soil Science
World Agroecosystems
Nutrition, Metabolism & Disease
Principles of Immunology
Endocrinology & Metabolism

Semester 2:
Research Project in Biotechnology 1
+ 50 credits Optional Modules from:
The Dynamic Cell
Plant Developmental Genetics
Practical Methods in Experimental Biology
Plant Responses to Abiotic Stress
Computing Techniques
Nutrition, Metabolism & Disease
Principles of Human Nutrition
Mammalian Biochemistry 2 – Techniques & Functional Regulation
Communicating Biosciences
Molecular Biology of the Cell

YEAR 3
Semester 1:
40 credits Optional Modules from:
Fundamental & Applied Aspects of Plant
Genetic Manipulation
Plant Microbe Interactions
Molecular Plant Pathology
Plant Cell Signalling
The Microflora of Foods
Applied Bioethics 1: Animals, Biotechnology & Society
Science, Technology & Business

Semester 2:
40 credits Optional Modules from:
Current Issues in Biotechnology
Genomics
Downstream Processing of Biotechnology Products
Pharmaceuticals & Nutraceuticals from Plants
The Microflora of Foods
Applied Bioethics 2: Sustainable Food Production, Biotechnology & the Environment
Environmental Microbiology

But of course, my selections above are flawed. Flawed in the sense that some of the electives could be a repetition or overlap some other things you may have learnt in previous semesters, and also might require you to have taken some previous electives in previous semesters. For such details, you'll have to look into the module catalogue tanjinjack provided.

But the important thing here is, I don't see how your Nottingham is more specifically on plants comes into effect.

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Added on August 22, 2010, 4:48 amThe determinant of you entering the above are based on results, correct?
And I also notice some of the unis if you transfer will take more than 3 years to complete. [mind to explain?]

I will actually say, Nottingham offers the same thing, i.e. exchange/twinning. [but of course also dependent on your results]

And if you haven't heard, degrees awarded by all 3 campuses will be identical [meaning no difference. same paper, same wordings]. I'm not sure what accreditations the science faculty has, but the business faculty certainly has got international accreditation bodies to verify the quality standard. But then again some forumers will say employers' aren't so stupid as to NOT distinguish you [I would say to be biased] a Malaysian grad from the UK grad. But in terms of this, you've still got a better chance than the UCSI grad, who is completely Malaysian grad. Better chance because of what I've pointed out: those who are in the know that Nottingham Malaysia's degree awarded is identical to the UK.This is not by merit of anything else, just pure human psychology. And to boost your marketability, you can go for the exchange/transfer to UK if you qualify, as what you would also do if you're in UCSI.

This post has been edited by entryman: Aug 22 2010, 11:38 AM

what is food science n nutrition doing in a biotechnology course?

this means that notts can't find enough biotech subjects to fill up the slots.

oh really?

let tanjinjack explain and see. i know nuts about science programmes.

okay put food science aside, what about the other concentrations? you're gonna give the same statement?

and hey the food science is just an OPTION to cater for students' interest. The core modules are already present and compulsory, something Fantasia would call "genera".

This post has been edited by entryman: Aug 22 2010, 02:10 PM

Shit, that's my line. I know about Engineering only. LOL!
I believe the breath of the course is good. You get to study what you like. You are not forced to study what you don't like. And electives this kind of thing, in term of a growing school, will increase in numbers as time passes by. My Mechanical department, despite being established since 2005 (or 2006?), is still adding new modules for electives.

Biotechnology - this term is too wide to define correctly. Is food science and nutrition not a topic under the big umbrella of biotechnology? It depends on your definition of biotechnology. Nottingham has their understandings on it and design a course within their capability while delivering the best to the students.

I saw in the overseas campus vid that NingBo campus has a green energy lab (my targeted specialisation), but the school of engineering there is not participating . Anyone know the reason?

This post has been edited by DJFoo000: Aug 22 2010, 05:28 PM

Where did you get the info from?

Probably you can provide a few links for me to have a look.

In this page http://www.nottingham.edu.my/Students/Page...eProgramme.aspx :

Under list of participating schools in NingBo Campus only the Business School and the Modern and Cultural Studies School are listed.