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post Mar 12 2010, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(netken @ Mar 12 2010, 08:29 AM)
anyone know's how to overcome the recent Astro Byond firmware upgrade?

seems that the pics are in Zoom now instead of stretch ..

can't see the subtitles and ppl's head are cut out ..

kuro settings : FULL

byond : Zoom

suggestions?
I thought my FIL press something and make the screen look zoom in doh.gif

and I did this to correct it

on b.yond = TV setting ---> choose pillar box
on the Kuro --> Option --> choose "Wide Zoom"

it will appear as 4:3 for like 3-4 sec and the TV will adjust to 16:9 automatically...but the Picture look not as good as the previous if the setting is wide zoom by the b.yond....
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post Mar 12 2010, 08:51 AM

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thanks bro - will try it out later when i get home ... biggrin.gif
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post Mar 12 2010, 04:25 PM

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sd - use component@1
hd - hdmi

byond - pillar box.

if byond use zoom, you ll stuck with cropped picture..blah
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post Mar 12 2010, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Mar 12 2010, 08:37 AM)
I thought my FIL press something and make the screen look zoom in  doh.gif

and I did this to correct it

on b.yond = TV setting ---> choose pillar box
on the Kuro --> Option --> choose "Wide Zoom"

it will appear as 4:3 for like 3-4 sec and the TV will adjust to 16:9 automatically...but the Picture look not as good as the previous if the setting is wide zoom by the b.yond....
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Thanks bos for the tips. 've got same issue as netken. i thought over time it will automatically adjust. tonite will try your tips.
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yup, it works just like u said. tq

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post Mar 13 2010, 01:16 PM

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Here are some settings that I created for my older 428XG for the Astro B.yond Box.

These settings are quite bright and can be used for all the HD channels. However, for the sports channels some might prefer a slightly brighter image. When I get the time I will create one for that. These settings were created using a pattern generator at 1080i. Since Astro does not broadcast any test signals, we have to hope that they adhere to the HD standards. The PACE STB uses Broadcom chipset that shd handle SD to HD colour space conversion correctly. However, YMMV with the various programming since they source the channels from various countries.

I have not tested the accuracy of them with Astro b.yond per se as my Astro is currently hooked up to my other set but they shd be pretty good.

Notes to keep in mind.

I will not be responsible if any problems arise with anyone using these settings. Use them if u want, else don't use them. They do not sustitute a proper calibration as each set is unique. My set has already 2500hrs on it so its pretty much broken in. The settings give a bright image (~40ftL) that shd be more than bright enuf. I doubt they can be used for the 508XG but it does not hurt trying. Also, if your set is less than 200hrs I woud suggest toning down the contrast to below 30. This reduces the chances of burn in from the bright Astro logos. If I use the ISF modes, the greyscale is flatter, but I can only do it on site.

Anyway enjoy. I also attach the calibration reports for these settings based on my set. BTW, I always fill the screen when I watch Astro, so under Options I use Auto Wide Zoom.




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Attached File  428XG_1080iHD_Report_Gamut.pdf ( 106.21k ) Number of downloads: 20
Attached File  428XG_1080iHD_Report_Greyscale.pdf ( 126.84k ) Number of downloads: 17
Attached File  8_G_Astro_B.yond_Box_Settings.txt ( 1.16k ) Number of downloads: 38
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post Mar 13 2010, 08:18 PM

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im in bertam now, will try this once im back in kl..smile.gif

@my set close to 2200+ hours too..hehehe

thanks mate!
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post Mar 15 2010, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Mar 13 2010, 01:16 PM)
Here are some settings that I created for my older 428XG for the Astro B.yond Box.

These settings are quite bright and can be used for all the HD channels. However, for the sports channels some might prefer a slightly brighter image. When I get the time I will create one for that. These settings were created using a pattern generator at 1080i. Since Astro does not broadcast any test signals, we have to hope that they adhere to the HD standards. The PACE STB uses Broadcom chipset that shd handle SD to HD colour space conversion correctly. However, YMMV with the various programming since they source the channels from various countries.

I have not tested the accuracy of them with Astro b.yond per se as my Astro is currently hooked up to my other set but they shd be pretty good.

Notes to keep in mind.

I will not be responsible if any problems arise with anyone using these settings. Use them if u want, else don't use them. They do not sustitute a proper calibration as each set is unique. My set has already 2500hrs on it so its pretty much broken in. The settings give a bright image (~40ftL) that shd be more than bright enuf. I doubt they can be used for the 508XG but it does not hurt trying. Also, if your set is less than 200hrs I woud suggest toning down the contrast to below 30. This reduces the chances of burn in from the bright Astro logos.  If I use the ISF modes, the greyscale is flatter, but I can only do it on site.

Anyway enjoy. I also attach the calibration reports for these settings based on my set. BTW, I always fill the screen when I watch Astro, so under Options I use Auto Wide Zoom.
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Great info, adude! thumbup.gif


Added on March 15, 2010, 10:17 amPhew... just got back from a biz trip. Hope everyone is well biggrin.gif

Hey Mod, thanks for taking out the trash talkers. In the spirit of sharing, let's get back to our little discussion here nod.gif

For those KURO owners who have yet to own a HT system and would like to add a little bling with good audio to boot, check this out:


Q Acoustics - QAV 5.1

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Featured here is the Pioneer KURO 50"

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BMR (Balanced Mode Radiator) drivers based on NXT Tech (from New Transducers), Star Trek stuff yes? biggrin.gif

Want to know more, read the WhatHifi review below:

http://whathifi.com/review/Q-Acoustics-Q-AV/




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post Mar 15 2010, 02:41 PM

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thanks for the astro byond's settings
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post Mar 15 2010, 06:11 PM

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thanks AFD for the tuning tip!

S168 - u got jalan for that Q Acoustic speaker?

mine already comes with the standard side speaker

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post Mar 15 2010, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(netken @ Mar 15 2010, 06:11 PM)
thanks AFD for the tuning tip!

S168 - u got jalan for that Q Acoustic speaker?

mine already comes with the standard side speaker

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Bro, mine came with std speakers too. Then again, std speakers are std speakers, I guess biggrin.gif

No Kang-Tau at the moment. Not sure if some of the other models come with std speakers, if not then this might be worth considering?

Unlike the regular soundbars that either sits in front or hangs below the TV, this baby integrate seamlessly with the TV itself.

Btw, The Q-A emblem is a magnet. Can be removed, it need be. Nice touch, eh? thumbup.gif
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post Mar 15 2010, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(serendipity168 @ Mar 15 2010, 08:34 PM)
Bro, mine came with std speakers too. Then again, std speakers are std speakers, I guess  biggrin.gif

No Kang-Tau at the moment. Not sure if some of the other models come with std speakers, if not then this might be worth considering?

Unlike the regular soundbars that either sits in front or hangs below the TV, this baby integrate seamlessly with the TV itself.

Btw, The Q-A emblem is a magnet. Can be removed, it need be. Nice touch, eh?  thumbup.gif
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how much? where to buy? hmm.gif
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post Mar 15 2010, 09:18 PM

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[quote=norazwan79,Mar 15 2010, 09:03 PM]how much? where to buy? hmm.gif
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Bro, no idea la sweat.gif CT Seong, a little help please?

Even the subwoofer can be wall mounted. Zen eh? thumbup.gif

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Added on March 15, 2010, 9:51 pm[quote=formalin,Mar 10 2010, 12:02 PM]

Added on March 6, 2010, 3:34 pm

Dear Bro,

How do U rate this Home Theater: Pioneer HTZ-LX61? Can is your write a short review on this item based on your own experience? It will certainly help me whether to get it or not?
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Hi Buddy,

I've overlooked your query earlier, my bad tongue.gif

Review, huh? Hmmm.... no idea what to write laugh.gif Considering that I'm staying in an apt. this HTIB fits the bill. A lot of variables to consider e.g. living room space, look n feel (whether it'll blend in with the rest of the stuff i.e. furniture, etc.), fussy neighbors, wiring, etc, etc.

There's always a trade-off between brawn and finesse flex.gif

I'm very pleased with it. Though it'll only decode standard Dolby & DTS, your BD player should be able to handle Dolby True HD & DTS-HD Master Audio to LPCM. Special thanks to Ngto, for shedding some light into this topic.

Though small, it can dish out sonic booms albeit it can't shake the 2000sq ft apt brows.gif

I opt for this unit as I couldn't find a way to fit the LX-70's massive double cone subwoofer around my TV cabinet doh.gif

You'll also need to tinker with the settings a bit starting off with MACC calibration to get the best out of it.

Other than the lower price point, the LX61 comes with a very capable 1080P upscalling DVD player. I tend to use it a lot for my music CD collection biggrin.gif

Oh yeah, the touch sensors is pretty cool and KURO link works exceptionally well with the rest of my setup

You'll find more info in the attachment below cheers.gif

Attached File  5.1_DVD_Home_Theatre_System___HTZLX61___Pioneer_Australia.pdf ( 121.44k ) Number of downloads: 12



Added on March 15, 2010, 10:10 pm[quote=lightastral,Mar 13 2010, 08:18 PM]
im in bertam now, will try this once im back in kl..smile.gif

@my set close to 2200+ hours too..hehehe

thanks mate!
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Well, there's still a whole lot of mileage left. 2200+ is a drop in the bucket biggrin.gif

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post Mar 16 2010, 09:44 AM

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Thanks Bro serendipity168,

For your short write up on the Pioneer HTZ-LX61, I still considering it or others, BTW my AV room is also quite small 14’ X 12”..

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QUOTE(formalin @ Mar 16 2010, 09:44 AM)
Thanks Bro serendipity168,

For your short write up on the Pioneer HTZ-LX61, I still considering it or others, BTW my AV room is also quite small 14’ X 12”..
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Bro, if space is a constraint then better not get something too bombastic.

If you can't play it at the optimal level then your investment is underutilized.

Yeah, a big setup will also take up more of your existing space.

Boys will be boys. Bigger boys, bigger toys brows.gif

As tempting as it might be to fill your room with toys, I think comfort also plays an important role in your overall HT experience biggrin.gif


Added on March 17, 2010, 10:10 am
QUOTE(norazwan79 @ Mar 15 2010, 09:03 PM)
how much? where to buy? hmm.gif
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Bro, managed to find out that the QAV 5.1 is available in these locations:

- HiWay Laser (SS2)
- the HifiShop (1U)
- Desa HT, Kepong

Word is, display units are available in both HiWay & Desa (I have not visually confirm this). Best to call before heading over.

Damage around $4K ish.



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post Mar 18 2010, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(serendipity168 @ Mar 16 2010, 10:27 AM)

Bro, managed to find out that the QAV 5.1 is available in these locations:

- HiWay Laser (SS2)
- the HifiShop (1U)
- Desa HT, Kepong

Word is, display units are available in both HiWay & Desa (I have not visually confirm this). Best to call before heading over.

Damage around $4K ish.
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Which AVR U think work best with it? drool.gif
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QUOTE(formalin @ Mar 18 2010, 11:15 AM)
Which AVR U think work best with it? drool.gif
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Susanno SC-LX90........ tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(formalin @ Mar 18 2010, 11:15 AM)
Which AVR U think work best with it? drool.gif
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Bro, I don't think you need an AVR with this HT system. Everything is built-in unless you need some extra input/output for your setup.

If you're still keen in AVR, it is best to explore other options smile.gif
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post Mar 18 2010, 02:50 PM

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Isn't it a complete speaker system that required an AVR to drive it?
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QUOTE(formalin @ Mar 18 2010, 02:50 PM)
Isn't it a complete speaker system that required an AVR to drive it?
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Not too sure, haven't really dwell into it hmm.gif

This might help:

http://www.qacoustics.co.uk/q-av/51-system.htm
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post Mar 18 2010, 06:57 PM

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so nice now - astro back to normal .... biggrin.gif

hmmm ... .... what's next?

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