The new models should be available soon. Best to sit and wait. Then decide

Guys...

who know market price for LX83 and VSX919.....
i have friends want to sell this 2 model....



tks

the cheapest vsx-919 is going for RM1.8k new

wow !

wrong issit?

vsx-1019 is RM2.3k a few month back.
i think got someone in garage sales sold his new vsx919 for rm1.8k a few weeks back.

VSX-1020 at RM3,599 and VSX-920 at RM2,999. Increase price liao.....

mahal!

Expect the same for other brands.

nods, think you are right, bro htkaki.

guess i ll have to wait a lil bit longer to stretch the budget.heh.

wonder hows 1020 will fare against lx52. or is it class D is a different animal already..

hi guys,

i'm using VSX1019. when i tested the iphone playback the first time couple of months back, no problem.

few days ago, tried and cant seem to be able to access the playback menu. I need to play the music on my iphone, then connect it to the AVR. only then will it playback.

today, i tried again..it played but i cant access the playback menu. when i press the 'Home Menu' button on the remote (which is suppose to display the playback menu) it says (on the AVR) "Not Available"

i cant skip, pause, fwd, reverse or do anything. my iphone (3GS) OS3.1.3.. i believe the phone OS was old version when i tried it the first time with the AVR.

anyone facing similar problem? can help? i dun listen to music from the phone very often but every once a while its cool to use the feature

thanks!!

Hi all a newbie here but been reading the posts at AVS but all the ang mo there with different pioneers vs our Asian models

Just to provide a few info after reading this thread:

1) the 508xg has subwoofer out. I am using it. I do not have an AV as I got 3 kids. Not very wise to get an AV.

2) Difference between Kuro and KRP is that i) KRP stands for Kuro Reference Panel... they are the last panels Pio produce when they closing in Apr 2009. Heard there are only 3000 KRPs produced world wide so KRP community is small. KRP Pure Mode is supposed to be perfect out of the box but KRP500A in Asia does not have Pure mode ii) The number behind the model is the generation ie 508 is 8th Gen and 609 is 9th Gen panel, but they are definitely Kuro.

3) Panasonic took over Pio engineers & IP last year and will be launching Kuro next year according to a Aussie display fair. Panny been a disaster this year due to the higher black issue. Hopefully next year they don't spoil the Kuro brand

4) BDP320 seemed to be the last of pioneer made players. It will be ODM by sharp in future. Think Pio will still make the AV

Hopefully after these contributions I can hope to get some response to these questions

1) Why is Source Direct from BDP320 looks better on my 508xg rather than 480p or 1080p from a normal 480i source? scaling and i/p conversion is better in the TV than the player? This means all BDP320 do is decoding (but in fidelity)??

2) THX Optimiser requires a higher contrast than recommended 30-40. I have mine at 45. Is that correct or I read the instructions wrong (should I focus on the 4 boxes or 8 boxes?)

Thanks all

1. The scalar on the 508XG is better than the scalar/deinterlacing chip on ur 320. All the BD320 is doing in Source Direct is converting from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2. The chroma upsampling bit is the only bit that is handled by the 320. If u send a clean 480i signal to ur 8G Kuro and set the PureCinema to Advance, the Kuro has the ability to rebuild the original 24p signal and play it back at 72Hz. In most cases, it is superior to most players out there (sans the Oppo BDP-83). I would also suggest u turn Deep Colour off on the 320 if u can.

2. On the 508XG never set the contrast past 40 as u start clipping the colours badly and u end up with a bad gamma curve. THX Optimizer are just not suitable for setting contrast on modern displays. U shd consider getting ur set calibrated with the ISF modes unlocked. PM me if u r interested.

today I visited Harvey Norman and saw the VSX920 on sale. The price is RM2999

920 is the lowest range that is using Anchorbay tech for video processing

Hi if that is the case what I don't understand is why we need to get a BDP320 in the first place if the TV is doing most of the job?? I got the 320 basically from good reviews and Kuros link function. I am assuming the Kuros link will take care of the Deep Color 16:235 issue as I use the "Pioneer Plasma" output setting in the 320.

Thanks much and hope to see u soon

In one sense, it has a Source direct Mode. With that mode, u at least have the option to see which does it better. I believe the deinterlacing of 480i might be indeed slightly better by the 320 however, with taht u would get 1080p/60 meaning u cannot get 72Hz refresh. Maybe I can evaluate when I am there to let u know which is better.

Actually, Kuro link is just another name for HDMI CEC... colour space still needs to be setup optimally.

can anyone tell me the current price for
pioneer vsx-819h-k
pioneer vsx-919ah-k

Thanks much... u are indeed the guru Can't wait for u to optimise my set

My conclusion after much discussion and threads elsewhere as to whether BDP320 is better than Pio TV is that it depends whether your TV is HD ready or FHD. Think if it is FHD then BDP320 processing is better to scale 1080p but if HD Ready then the Pio TV needs to rescale down again to 1366 which degrades the PQ... does that make sense?

1 Qn: on 24p/72hz I thought that only applies to Blu Ray and not to DVD 480i?

Thanks much

No, the Pios can recreate the original 24p from 480i/60 material and refresh it at 72Hz correctly. The older 8G Kuros had a bug when it detected a 480i signal and would occasionally drop in and out of 24p thus u would see brightness changes sometimes, but the newer 8G Kuros and the 9G Kuros don't have these problems.

On ur finding about scaling capabilities, this is what I found on sending a 720 vs 1080 signal to the Kuros. On the HD ready sets, it is actually better to send a solid 720p signal to the Kuro. The picture (assuming the source is 480i to start with), has less artefacts and is slightly sharper than sending a 1080p signal to the Kuro. If u do this, then u can still refresh at 72Hz if u select Pure Cinema advance. However, u need to do this using a good BD player. In my opinion the Oppo BDP-83 is the best I have seen on doing this. Even, BDs look better with less artefacts (if u really look) if scaled from the 1080p/24 source correctly and sent to the Pios.

Of course, its best to reduce scaling when possible, so for 1080p material, I would suggest sending the 1080p to the Pio without scaling, but at the hands of a good BD player that can scale well 720p can be pretty good as well.

Sorry for asking again but for the benefit of the forumers as well instead of a personal PM I think I have the brightness changing bug in my 508xg when I use Cinema Advance... is there a firmware fix for this?

BDP320 only outputs as 480i, 480p, 1080i, 1080p. Don't think there is a 720p option or am I missing something or that's only for your famed Oppo 83?

Thanks for your patience