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News Official TM High Speed Broadband (HSBB) Thread V2, TM HSBB Launching Live Now !

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post Mar 23 2010, 10:21 AM

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Hi... sorry if this was posted before. I just got off the line with the HSBB sales rep from TM and was told that at the launch tomorrow there will be 3 packages. 1 for 5mb then 10mb and the last 20mb. Only for internet and IPTV will be seperate.

Pricing will only know tomorrow as they don't know also.
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post Mar 23 2010, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Mar 23 2010, 10:10 AM)
superb at normal browsing but any FLV steaming(youtube and other similiar) is cap at morning only smooth after 12pm/1am
Download is depend of the Server side Mostly 200kb +- and some 400kb +- with Download Manager
Torrenting (good seeder) 200-500kb night                          100-200kb Day
Using Utorrent & Xun Lei depend which country seeder
If US/Europe Utorrent perform better
If china Seeder Xun lei is better
But recently it have some routing issue to China and europe. No perform as well as last time.
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in short (or tl;dr version):

better download but it's ratio still sux...

betting on constant and stable connection for international servers with HSBB, especially game servers, say 3 months later?

download from international file servers?
CS:S / MW2 to europe?
10/25 men raid for WoW/ Aion/ Rapplez/ WH?

*laughing menacingly*

overcrowded is overcrowded...

i'll enjoy more seeing people yell 'FUUUUUUUUU - TV SHOW lags like sh!t (*operator: plz flip ur modem sideways, restart and chant 'wooka buuka kaala baanga' when it tries to connect*)' thru hotlines when they turn on IPTV then...
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Mar 23 2010, 11:24 AM)
in short (or tl;dr version):

better download but it's ratio still sux...

betting on constant and stable connection for international servers with HSBB, especially game servers, say 3 months later?

download from international file servers?
CS:S / MW2 to europe?
10/25 men raid for WoW/ Aion/ Rapplez/ WH?

*laughing menacingly*

overcrowded is overcrowded...

i'll enjoy more seeing people yell 'FUUUUUUUUU - TV SHOW lags like sh!t (*operator: plz flip ur modem sideways, restart and chant 'wooka buuka kaala baanga' when it tries to connect*)' thru hotlines when they turn on IPTV then...
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Hahaha i remember those old days when we was using the old tv set. When the tv signal lost we would give a slap to the tv and it will fix automatically.

I can't imagine IPTV lagging. laugh.gif
Buffer 2 second, playing 1 second. Sekat2
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post Mar 23 2010, 12:13 PM

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haiz....I just hope I can get something which is better than the current 4 mbps dsl speed which is cheaper than rm100,,,,,,,, sad.gif
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post Mar 23 2010, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(arslow @ Mar 23 2010, 12:13 PM)
haiz....I just hope I can get something which is better than the current 4 mbps dsl speed which is cheaper than rm100,,,,,,,, sad.gif
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Can ha...me also want...
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post Mar 23 2010, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Mar 23 2010, 08:10 AM)
No, even if you stay back using Streamyx, it'll be the same. The international link is shared between all broadband and dial-up.

Seriously guys, even if you get 2mbps for Youtube it's better than using dial-up. Stop ranting about it. If can't help it, just go directly to TM to rant. Don't want to subscribe then fine. If less user subscribe then better for those subscribers -- can get better speed.

There's downtime for the service when a lot of users are downloading, it happens.

The advantage of HSBB over Streamyx is that we can get better torrent speed (higher upload speed so hopefully there will be more seeders), and that's important enough for most subscribers. If during non-peak hours, then we can get full bandwidth for international content (there will still be latency problems).
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and malaysia hsbb seed become faster laugh.gif
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QUOTE(arslow @ Mar 23 2010, 12:13 PM)
haiz....I just hope I can get something which is better than the current 4 mbps dsl speed which is cheaper than rm100,,,,,,,, sad.gif
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if they offer 5mbps at the price of current 1Mbps or 512k, i sure take it. i just want internet so i can download more files biggrin.gif
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if they do not bundle IPTV with HSBB Internet, it will be an issue unless the person does not subscribe to Astro. Just imagine:

HSBB - RM150 - 180
IPTV - RM50
Astro - RM100 - 120

My wallet gonna torn apart!
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post Mar 23 2010, 12:28 PM

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guess no matter what HSBB still will cap on torrent/youtube
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post Mar 23 2010, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(casmadscientist @ Mar 23 2010, 12:28 PM)
guess no matter what HSBB still will cap on torrent/youtube
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TM cap Torrent, yes
YouTube? so? TM cap or YouTube Server cap?

and HSBB use T1 or Level 3 Carrier?
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Hi... where can see the coverage for HSBB? i think ampang sure belum sampai lagi coverage dia... anyone have info or map that can check the fiber backbone or timeline on expected coverage in ampang?
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post Mar 23 2010, 01:04 PM

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pfff i live in bangsar and its not available for my condo. thats crap?
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IS THE TIME CUT OFF ASSTHROW!!!
THIS ASSTHROW PRODUCE LOW QUALITY SD CHANEL
KEEP COMPRESSED!!!
godie!
support tmnet iptv-HD
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post Mar 23 2010, 01:30 PM

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seeing that 'terms and conditions' are on their side, plus the 'best effort' policy they offered... what else can we do?

help line? we all know what it does...
MCMC? i feel like my complains thru emails ended up in it's 'spam' section...

then we have our minister of communication...

who warns of legal action against errant private groups and bloggers...
who wants to ensure Internut not abused...
who wants to filter the internut...
who warn us be wary of western influences like facebook, twitter that would damage religious believes...
who wants us to think thousand times before mixed marriage...
who puts silly and irrelevant quotes until people had fed up with his kuno-minded thinking and made him famous thru #yorais...

an incompetent minister overlooking an incompetent communication department that monitor an incompetent GLC, and conficker is still harassing TMNut servers last year when the virus is supposed detected and clean up by most commercial software and open source software (clamwin) in a short period of time, what can you expect?

fast?
stable?
reliable?

we got stuck and forced to use it becoz of the monopoly...

if other isp like singtel start their service here, we'll see share for TMNut will drop drestically.
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post Mar 23 2010, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(thankyou @ Mar 23 2010, 12:22 PM)
if they do not bundle IPTV with HSBB Internet, it will be an issue unless the person does not subscribe to Astro. Just imagine:

HSBB - RM150 - 180
IPTV - RM50
Astro - RM100 - 120

My wallet gonna torn apart!
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They bundle IPTV together with HSBB. It's part of their Triple Play thing. If you want to watch additional channels (besides the free channels), then you'll have to pay. e.g. +RM10 for Channel [V]. The free channels include normal TV channels such as RTM1, 2, 3, NTV7 and 8TV (Should have more). If you don't have to subscribe for additional channels, then you only have to pay for HSBB.

Just hopefully they will come out with Video on Demand services so we can enjoy HD movies. Personally I don't think it will lag when streaming these contents and it will be better than Astro during rain or cloudy weather.

Trust me, even if other ISP comes here, their price will still be higher. They need to buy the lines from TM.

Helpline personnel are not trained thoroughly. What they can do is to inform their supervisor or technician about problems, but if you think that they can advise you, think again. They are only trained to follow the manual.

Fortunately our internet is not filtered that much. Look at countries like China. They banned most of the websites, citing that its not good for their country. Look at SG, the users are not allowed to torrent. Which policies do you think is better? Malaysia's or other countries?

This post has been edited by Demonic Wrath: Mar 23 2010, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(Mokuton @ Mar 23 2010, 01:04 PM)
pfff i live in bangsar and its not available for my condo. thats crap?
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Talk to your condo management perhaps?
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post Mar 23 2010, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Mar 23 2010, 01:30 PM)
seeing that 'terms and conditions' are on their side, plus the 'best effort' policy they offered... what else can we do?

help line? we all know what it does...
MCMC? i feel like my complains thru emails ended up in it's 'spam' section...

then we have our minister of communication...

who warns of legal action against errant private groups and bloggers...
who wants to ensure Internut not abused...
who wants to filter the internut...
who warn us be wary of western influences like facebook, twitter that would damage religious believes...
who wants us to think thousand times before mixed marriage...
who puts silly and irrelevant quotes until people had fed up with his kuno-minded thinking and made him famous thru #yorais...

an incompetent minister overlooking an incompetent communication department that monitor an incompetent GLC, and conficker is still harassing TMNut servers last year when the virus is supposed detected and clean up by most commercial software and open source software (clamwin) in a short period of time, what can you expect?

fast?
stable?
reliable?

we got stuck and forced to use it becoz of the monopoly...

if other isp like singtel start their service here, we'll see share for TMNut will drop drestically.
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I totally agree sad.gif


Added on March 23, 2010, 2:06 pm
QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Mar 23 2010, 01:54 PM)
They bundle IPTV together with HSBB. It's part of their Triple Play thing. If you want to watch additional channels (besides the free channels), then you'll have to pay. e.g. +RM10 for Channel [V]. The free channels include normal TV channels such as RTM1, 2, 3, NTV7 and 8TV (Should have more). If you don't have to subscribe for additional channels, then you only have to pay for HSBB.

Just hopefully they will come out with Video on Demand services so we can enjoy HD movies. Personally I don't think it will lag when streaming these contents and it will be better than Astro during rain or cloudy weather.

Trust me, even if other ISP comes here, their price will still be higher. They need to buy the lines from TM.

Helpline personnel are not trained thoroughly. What they can do is to inform their supervisor or technician about problems, but if you think that they can advise you, think again. They are only trained to follow the manual.

Fortunately our internet is not filtered that much. Look at countries like China. They banned most of the websites, citing that its not good for their country. Look at SG, the users are not allowed to torrent. Which policies do you think is better? Malaysia's or other countries?
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European country is better (except France....)



Anyway 10 mbps broadband is suppose to be 1.25 MB/s download speed max is it?

I used this website to calculate http://web.forret.com/tools/bandwidth.asp?speed=10&unit=Mbps

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Mar 23 2010, 02:13 PM
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post Mar 23 2010, 02:11 PM

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Here's what we can do to help out the problems faced in Malaysia:-
  • Provide a server to help host contents (e.g. filehippo, filefront)
  • Deal with Google to add a new server here in Malaysia (youtube)
  • Use torrent to share, it saves a lot of bandwidth
  • Find a way to work as TM management

Here's things that will not help:-
  • Rant here
  • Rant anywhere
  • Spam TM helpline
  • Shoot anyone that supports TM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Mar 22 2010, 11:37 PM)
11g 54Mbps is full duplex total speed. We are getting a theoretical Maximum of 27Mbps each way on 11g, not accounting other factors.
I tested the 11g in my hometown where there is very little interference from neighbours and 1 reached 22Mbps for file transfer within the LAN, 7M from the router with 2 walls.

In the congested residential area where i study/live, I could scan many wifi routers around, I managed to reach 14Mbps being 4M from the router.
Another test behind 1 wall and about 6Meters from the router upstairs yielded less than 10Mbps.

I'm sure 11n comes in handy if you want to 'utilize' your HSBB
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Wow, thanks for the info!! It'd be great if my adapter is N, unfortunately it's not. sad.gif

QUOTE(Suk @ Mar 23 2010, 05:15 AM)
For IPTV i think u can get guarantee speed.
all content from local...

For international bandwidth I bet they do not guarantee the bandwidth..
even HSBB is > 1 year..

As what i know, HK , SG also do not guarantee u subscribe 10mbps and get 10Mbps international link.
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Not guaranteeing the bandwidth is normal practice for any ISP. I totally understand that. It's only a crime when they hide behind that rule so that they don't have to give "best effort".
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Mar 23 2010, 01:54 PM)
They bundle IPTV together with HSBB. It's part of their Triple Play thing. If you want to watch additional channels (besides the free channels), then you'll have to pay. e.g. +RM10 for Channel [V]. The free channels include normal TV channels such as RTM1, 2, 3, NTV7 and 8TV (Should have more). If you don't have to subscribe for additional channels, then you only have to pay for HSBB.

Just hopefully they will come out with Video on Demand services so we can enjoy HD movies. Personally I don't think it will lag when streaming these contents and it will be better than Astro during rain or cloudy weather.

Trust me, even if other ISP comes here, their price will still be higher. They need to buy the lines from TM.

Helpline personnel are not trained thoroughly. What they can do is to inform their supervisor or technician about problems, but if you think that they can advise you, think again. They are only trained to follow the manual.

Fortunately our internet is not filtered that much. Look at countries like China. They banned most of the websites, citing that its not good for their country. Look at SG, the users are not allowed to torrent. Which policies do you think is better? Malaysia's or other countries?
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I am wondering, does the free channel will be in HD? 1080p?

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