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post Feb 20 2010, 08:50 AM

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Is that router a must for HSBB?
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post Feb 20 2010, 11:24 AM

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Any beta testers can test the youtube speed along with screenshots showing the speed.. like the one below in the spoiler.
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post Feb 20 2010, 11:33 AM

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Nope. I'm on 4mbps using vpn. I would only get around 30KB/s without VPN.
Unstable it may be, the video plays without stopping..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1172732/+2260
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Maybe that's why streamyx connection are a bit shit now so that their HSBB thing runs smoothly.
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post Feb 20 2010, 11:54 AM

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I see no reason why they would want to throttle HSBB right now under trial since those data would be useful to them to check on the load etc. They might throttle them after trial, but let's complain when that actually happens.
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post Feb 24 2010, 10:40 PM

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It would be nice if for once we get full speed downloading through the browser. Right now on streamyx we can only get full speed if we use download managers. Lovely results so far(aside from the speedtest to outside). Page instant load=win. Wonder if they can sustain it though. More users with bigger bandwidth+TMnetwork=Potential Fail.
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post Feb 25 2010, 09:56 AM

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If for beta, I think they throw coins to determine whether someone get it or not. When will they offer it? Sometime around April-May?
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post Feb 26 2010, 03:41 PM

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Dunno why TM want to be so secretive. It generates interest for HSBB which would be good for them, and apart from the pings to outside world, the actual speed is very good. Just let us drool over those videos/pictures/info. Oi TM staff.. go work on improving the connections than waste time reading forums and whatnot.
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post Feb 27 2010, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(azwan92 @ Feb 27 2010, 02:35 PM)
indeed will be lower than RM160 biggrin.gif . Minimum of 20Mbps is very good. Hopefully 100Mbps also available and affordable. brows.gif
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More wishful thinking that. 4mbps=160 currently.
With it being new as with most things, I doubt it will be that cheap at the start.
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post Feb 27 2010, 03:52 PM

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I price is lower than 200, that would be good news. I expect it to be around 200 tho.
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post Feb 27 2010, 08:31 PM

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It would only be true if pigs can fly. That 190 sounds more real. Pretty good price if true. People will scream expensive though.
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post Feb 28 2010, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Feb 28 2010, 02:57 PM)
Come on, with AirAsia, pigs can fly.

The package is very very possible. Just don't expect to get the same bandwidth for international lines. Don't forget, even the complaints only apply if you don't get 90% bandwidth when testing on TMNet servers, which is local. For local connections, the bandwidth is cheap if they routed everything to fiber optics. It's different case on international lines. So, don't be overexcited about the bandwidth they provide for the price. The complaints and the bandwidth they provide will be guaranteed applied for local connections, not on international connections. Don't worry on this though, I'm pretty sure Malaysians are pretty heavy torrenter so

With this change to fiber optic, they will be able to provide a much larger and more stable service radius compared to using copper line. Remember, Malaysia's policy on broadband is about penetration now, not on high speed. So, moving to fiber optic allows them to achieve the target.

For now, it's testing phase, that's why the testers can get such a bandwidth for international line. They have dedicated lines for HSBB for international line for now. Most likely it'll be merged into Streamyx international line, then it'll all go to slow connection if everyone was to download (then it'll be 20% users using 80% bandwidth again). Then I'm pretty sure there will be up-rage here asking why the heck 20mbps connection only translate to 2mbps connection when downloading from oversea servers.

HSBB is TM product, so is Streamyx. I think maybe they'll convert all users to HSBB after everything is deployed. It'll be a waste of time and energy if they split up between these 2 services.

IPTV, on the other hand, is optional. You may subscribe for channels you want to watch, and with the bandwidth, there will be HD video-on-demand and also more HD channels. Of course, I think IPTV will include those RTM channels, NTV7 channels for free, but for sport channels, it'll most probably require subscription. Same with movie channels. Note that ASTRO and HSBB is not under the same company, so expect some competition here.
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5mbps for rm50? You truly believe that? laugh.gif Not possible unless they are about to offer current streamyx 1mb user at rm10. If not there would be riots. HSBB 5mbps, RM50. 1mbps combo(no HSBB available yet in your area)=RM110. Even if pigs can fly you won't get that price any time soon over here. If they were able to offer us that cheap, they would have done it long ago rather than make us pay between 90-160 for 1mbps-4mbps packages over the years. And think for a second why most new things cost a lot at the beginning before price settles down..

Well, they've blocked torrenting since ages ago. They would do the same too for HSBB I would imagine. As for international bandwidth.. from the screenshots it looks promissing. They can get full speed or close enough for the 20mbps package. Would be different though once it goes live and more people use it.. but it would still be fast enough.
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post Feb 28 2010, 06:08 PM

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Unless everyone subscribes to VPN or something, they won't be able to torrent much although latest utorrent allows that currently. But won't be long before they would block that. tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2010, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ash @ Mar 7 2010, 05:17 PM)
i dont know if its a good thing, while you get better ping from local server on hsbb, you actually get MUCH higher ping from overseas compared to streamyx.
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It's still in beta stages. Cacat here, there and everywhere is to be expected. Once they actually offer the package to end user, that's when we can start complaining about stuff. It'll get better no doubt. Just wonder if it'll be streamyx case again over time when users grow, the jalan still the same size.
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post Mar 17 2010, 12:08 AM

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They should let us use our normal routers. I don't want to give up my Linksys WRT54GL(DDwrt)..
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post Mar 18 2010, 06:39 PM

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They will use a special line for that. laugh.gif
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post Mar 19 2010, 07:27 PM

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I still remember the feeling when Streamyx was first introduced. Had me drooling over it but let down by the price initially.
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post Mar 20 2010, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Gh-x @ Mar 19 2010, 11:09 PM)
Well that was just an Example, even right now the price is unknown. For me i target the 10Mb to be around the Streamyx 4Mb package price.
Well i hope the HSBB come with a good bandwidth cap for an a little higher than average user.
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That would be an very good price. I'm expecting current 4mb price-200+. If lower than that, awesome! Streamyx will be way cheaper too if that happens.

QUOTE(rasyid @ Mar 20 2010, 02:58 AM)
i dont think it will cost more than RM150 .. cause the purpose of this is to increase the broadband penetration ...
who would use if its cost more than what they already paying ...  gov is not thinking of profit ..
they just want to achieve the target ..

govemen also have reputation to keep ... they will get bad name la if the broadband penetration sucks ..
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Streamyx is still available. A cheaper streamyx will boost the broadband penetration too.

So we definitely have to use the router given by them? That would be shit.
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post Mar 20 2010, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Mar 20 2010, 11:47 AM)
no matter what price, if roll out is slow/delayed then what for?
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What's your point? Even if it is delayed for another few months to reach my place, or even a year in fact, I won't mind at all knowing when it is available, I would be able to enjoy speeds up to 10mbps-20mbps(depending on the price of course). As for the meantime, normal browsing and whatnot using 1mbps-4mbps is more than sufficient for my and a lot of us, needs.
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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Mar 22 2010, 06:59 AM)
Speedtest from Hinet FTTX Taiwan

Local server:

KL:

LA:

DSL still beats FTTH anytime if conditions are right.Using VDSL2 is good enough
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Using a bicycle is good enough for us to move around too.


Added on March 22, 2010, 8:25 amThought it was today. Have to wait two more days huh? Crap

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QUOTE(siukeong7888 @ Mar 22 2010, 10:44 PM)
20 mb for local connection and 2mb for overseas . What's the diff btw HSBB and  current connection . sigh .

Mayb i can open maybank2u.com faster but still buffering with youtube .
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How do you know it's only 2mb from overseas? All people are doing is take little pop at them. Let's wait till we actually get to try it before complaining eh?

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