some males gliders don't have visible bald spots..mine their bald spots are slightly visible when they are about 6-7 months old..then i took them for neutering

really??
hopefully mine dont have visible bald spot 2..
i dun like him become botak

This post has been edited by dreak89: Feb 23 2010, 01:51 PM

well if u dun want botak then u neuter him lor..when they mature will have strong odour also..neutering will reduce the smell a lot

make sure u change their pouch very very often... the best is everyday. and clean them using baby wipes everyday because underage joeys can't take care of themselves. So you are their parent now, cleaning them and feeding them. Good luck. May god Bless the babies. Please sms Kelvin when u are free, i'm sure he can help you alot!

if you don't have a female, the bald spot may not be as obvious as those males that are paired with a female.

actually,i buy a pair glider..and i'm afraid both of them are twin..
that's why i want to neuter the male..

i found one vet in penang,told me he can do neuter male glider..
he also work with zoo before n want to look at my glider first to make sure it is ready or not.
can i trust him??
he seems like have an experience with suggy..

This post has been edited by dreak89: Feb 23 2010, 04:27 PM

Hi guys,
newbie here..
Want ask about SG diet..
How to balance the diet?
Based on my reading, they need 75% fruit+veggie and 25% meat..
As an extra information, i do breed cricket and king mealworm for my tarantula..
The problem is how to ensure the ratio is right? Still blur blur..
Yes,i do read the PDF table from 1st page..

By the way my SG is adult female approx. 1 years old. Izit ok to adopt mature SG?
Will take her next week..

Please help me as Im in love with SG since 3 years back.Just now got the chance and Im afraid i will not be able to serve the right food for her.

Thanks in advance.

In my opinion.. i would not change the pouch to often. Well at least not daily i change mine every 5 days now.. sometimes a week baru tukar.. Because they are so accustomed to the scent that is on the pouch~ later if change too often, they will always need to get accustom to a new pouch smell. I experienced before that my suggies rather sleep outside in the bowl rather than the pouch cuz the pouch doesnt have his smell.

Perhaps u can get reference from him, if he did any neutering in the past. If not just come take a drive to KL and neuter your glider at Hands n Paws.

A balance diet for me would be HPW. But there is actually a few more which u can choose from. Fruits and veges should be accompanied with that balanced diet the mealworms are just treated as treats for your suggies if you feed on HPW. If you check the Cal : ph ratio table, you can see what kind of fruits and veges you can balance out when feeding. Just remember.. too much phos are not good XD Please remember depending solely on fruits and veges~ is a nono. Get at least 1 stable diet like HPW or BML or other diets.

You can view some discussion here at Suggie Nutrition 101 = http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=800472&hl=

Adopting mature SGs will require more time on bonding if the glider isnt tame. Is this gonna be your first glider? If it is, i hope you are a patient person else get a joey

This post has been edited by SugarCoatedCandy: Feb 23 2010, 06:29 PM

thanks for the reply. Looking forward for it..

So far she doesn't look very tame. How long will it take to tame it? I might play with her most of my time since all my tarantula are aggresive type

My first wild glider took me 4 months to get her to trust me. She STILL bites me occasionally XD it depends on the glider too.. sometimes they can adapt fast.. some may take longer. Dont let it discourage you, keep bonding tho

Armand : Please read more on first page k. It is no use if i spoonfeed u thru sms. Waste of my effort and Erics to write those information based on researches and own observations.

lol,ok kelvin.
thanks for all ur help.
getting the hang of it.
i have purchased milk replacers for them, feeding them bit by bit,but they dont like it.
tomorow im taking them to the vet at aman suria.

Hello sg expert! I recently adopted 2 sg last friday in kl and melaka. Im in johor btw..
I have a problem with one of the joey. Its a female and 4 weeks oop. The trouble is she seems not eating well. She eats some of the baby food(pear) buy only from ny finget and licked off some of the apple slices but not so much. She doesnt even touch the hpw diet i made with some fruits slices and vegs..
Im getting worried here.. What should i do?
Thanks!

Hi djazmy, of coz u r to be worried. Coz the female joey is supposed to be still nursing with the mother for another month. It has not learnt to eat solid food yet at this time.

As for whoever that might be posting and asking again, joeys that are underaged or bought earlier than 2 months OOP, shud be handfeed with Wombaroo Milk Replacer or Pet's Own Milk.

And again to remind those who doesnt understand the terms OUT OF POUCH or it's shortform OOP : please take ur time to digest this.

Glider pregnant for 16days. Then give birth to joey(s) the size of a rice grain. The joey(s) will crawl into the mom's pouch and nurse for 2 months in the pouch, this is the time the joey(s) also known as IN POUCH or IP joey(s). Becoz of the joey(s) keep growing and wont fit inside the pouch anymore, joey(s) will be nursing for another 2 months outside the pouch. This is known as OUT OF POUCH or OOP.

So the safest age to get joey(s), is when the age is 2 months OUT OF POUCH. This also means the age is the same as 4 months old from birth (if u r so lucky like me to see glider gave birth THREE times with own eyes).

Why 4 months? answer = 2 months IP + 2 months OOP.

Any joey(s) being bought/underaged shud be fed with those i said on the above.

Cheers

djazmy,we suffer the same problem.
its ok,all the peeps here are really helpful.
ull get thru it.

Wow.. so many underaged gliders lately... The earlier you adjusted back to the proper diet and housing, then the bigger chance they can survive. My Money used to be very underaged, but now she is doing really fine. Thanks to BUGSY products.

Again, it's pretty normal for underaged joey for not eating much solid food or even HPW. Because they are in weak condition, their body and stomach still developing and not ready to take that kind of food yet. Go for milk replacer, it's more digestible for underaged joey.

Met amanda today, i guess his gliders will be fine, because at least i can see he putting effort in learning how to take care of the gliders.

Keep it up ~~

Normally males start showing their bald spot at around mid of 5 months to 6 months old but it is not very obvious. If you have a female, it will become obvious at around 6 months plus.

According to Dr Jenny, a glider can be neutered as long as the testicle has dropped fully. Meaning the little furry scrotum is no longer sticking close to the body but hangs out a bit.

Ask your vet some questions like how many gliders he has neutered. Many vets practice in zoos but then they don't really have a lot of knowledge on gliders because our zoos rarely have any. And your glider should be a healthy weight too.

It will take time. You first need to gain her trust. Handfeed and do touching first, before you move on to handling. Step by step should be the key and avoid spooking and scaring your glider coz she can get scared easily. Adults that are not tame get scared easily.

Good good. Now keep them warm and give feeding every 2 hours. Should be fine.

Stop babyfood. Jar babyfood has little nutrition. It's just full of water, vitamin A and C. Babyfood will just make your glider full but not give it nutrition. You have to use a milk replacement. Get the joey milk replacement that is sold by petshack. You shouldn't be feeding solid food to underage joeys. Naturally joeys start eating solids at 6 weeks old. 4 weeks still too young to digest fruits and veggies properly and it can cause gas build up. Read the link babyvey previously posted. There is no short cuts. Also, underage joeys do not know how to feed themselves. So you shouldn't put a bowl and expect it to eat itself. A syringe or spoon should be used to coax a joey to eat. Underage joeys should be eating every 2 to 3 hours.

Man, did i mess up here... I meant 8 weeks! Sorry for the misinformation.. The tail is already bushy by the way and she didnt try to eat solid food... Just like the above info but 8 weeks...

That means she didn't wean properly from her mom. Could be she was forced and separated from her mom when she was underage. Coz joeys learn how to eat from their parents.

So you have to do like how we feed underage joeys. Coax her to eat by handfeed.

Ok, will do! Thanks guys