New thread. Good job.

Here is Berry, she just went to her new home. Will miss this little girl.

Yes, and that is a 2 month old joey. Majority of my joeys have fluffy tails. I think the fluffiest is from Keera's batch.

Yes, I'm a homebreeder.

This is little JayJay

JayJay got innocent face, but he is very naughty. I like it when he stones quietly for pictures. He likes to explore and won't sit still for anything but the camera LOL.

Poor thing. It's so sad that something like that can happen. If I were her I would kick the maid out. So far I have not experience this before but luckily you asked for autopsy to know what happened.

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why would you want to do that? If you tie it too tightly, it would cut of blood flow. If you tie it loosely, it will slip out and get caught in the claws if it plays with it.

Well, it's just the right age I would say. If you have read all about breeding and proper introduction, shouldn't be a problem. Since you have planned nicely, should go on well.

Remember about the proper way of introducing yah.

Wow, like CNY glider cage. If you hang some ang paus sure look damn nice LOL. But ang paus not healthy for them, lead in the colouring hehehe. Anyway, nice.

It could be older. If the person who sold it to him was a middleman or a pet shop staff, they would not really know how to tell the age, so would just simply crap and say 2 months old since that is what we all want to hear. Best to take a picture so we can judge better.

Or it could be that the glider is a single joey, and sometimes single joeys will grow bigger or faster due to getting all of mom's attention and milk.

Bear indeed looks like a fighter. She is lucky.

I think Meeko stands out the most, he is so dark, black beauty dark.

Those bottles drip like crazy coz it lacks of a spring in it. Get a double ball metal tip bottle or one with a spring in it. The best bottle is Critter Canteen. Another one I have has double metal balls in the tip, no dripping too. I'll get the name of the brand for you.

Not to say companion as in opposite sex. What she has seen is that many SINGLE male gliders tend to self mutilate their penis. SINGLE females will also self mutilate but more on their tails. It is not linked to sexual desire. It is depression from being ALONE. So if you have a single glider and neglect him or her, no play time and bonding time, then there is a 50% chance he or she will self mutilate, be it the penis or leg or tail. Favourite parts are of course the penis and tail.

No, this one cheaper. The WILD brand naik harga already, it's RM16+ now. This brand I found, it's only available at very few petshops. Dunno why loh.... but it's good.

Your glider is tame, just it has not trusted you yet.

Carry in a bonding pouch. And while in the pouch, rub him and touch the pouch often. Your glider needs more handling. If you do not make him understand your touch and keep using the pen instead of your hands, it won't bond properly with you.

Why it crabs and sounds defensive? Is because it is annoyed, scared and uncomfortable with the way you taking it out. Do not put your hand inside the pouches when you want to take it out. This causes them to be protective and feel like a predator attacking it. So always gently ease your glider out of a pouch by pushing it out, like how you push out tooth paste a bit.

Doesn't look like a healthy 3month to me. Looks around 2 months, but then the belly size is disturbing. Your joey may be suffering from bloating. Did you get from a proper breeder? Coz some sellers these days buy joeys that are underage and then handfeed milk. The milk, which is cow's milk or goat's milk cannot be digested properly, causing gas build up. So it could be your joey got some gut problem. None of my joeys have such a tummy. Better bring her for a check up. Or it could also be a parasite problem. This one you need a vet to check.

OMG.... they are super underage. Please please read the link babyvey gave you.

You shouldn't take this lightly. You have to be responsible like a real mother now and do all you can to save them.

Normally males start showing their bald spot at around mid of 5 months to 6 months old but it is not very obvious. If you have a female, it will become obvious at around 6 months plus.

According to Dr Jenny, a glider can be neutered as long as the testicle has dropped fully. Meaning the little furry scrotum is no longer sticking close to the body but hangs out a bit.

Ask your vet some questions like how many gliders he has neutered. Many vets practice in zoos but then they don't really have a lot of knowledge on gliders because our zoos rarely have any. And your glider should be a healthy weight too.

It will take time. You first need to gain her trust. Handfeed and do touching first, before you move on to handling. Step by step should be the key and avoid spooking and scaring your glider coz she can get scared easily. Adults that are not tame get scared easily.

Good good. Now keep them warm and give feeding every 2 hours. Should be fine.

Stop babyfood. Jar babyfood has little nutrition. It's just full of water, vitamin A and C. Babyfood will just make your glider full but not give it nutrition. You have to use a milk replacement. Get the joey milk replacement that is sold by petshack. You shouldn't be feeding solid food to underage joeys. Naturally joeys start eating solids at 6 weeks old. 4 weeks still too young to digest fruits and veggies properly and it can cause gas build up. Read the link babyvey previously posted. There is no short cuts. Also, underage joeys do not know how to feed themselves. So you shouldn't put a bowl and expect it to eat itself. A syringe or spoon should be used to coax a joey to eat. Underage joeys should be eating every 2 to 3 hours.

That means she didn't wean properly from her mom. Could be she was forced and separated from her mom when she was underage. Coz joeys learn how to eat from their parents.

So you have to do like how we feed underage joeys. Coax her to eat by handfeed.

Your glider is a joey or adult? It really depends. Some gliders will outgrow their grey and turn a bit brown. Some will stay grey. I got a male that I kept since he was born, he is still the same colour since he was a joey and he is 1 year old. I have a male that was grey as a joey, and now he is brown and he is 3 years old and it's his natural colour.

But if it is turning brown like fast and from the tail.... it could be your glider is not grooming itself properly. So stains from the pee and environment can cause it. If you are using a wooden house or plastic house or coconut, it's very likely to cause it.

Syringe is the best. Why joeys do not like the replacement milk is cause it actually taste damn weird. The only way is to force feed. You can use a spoon but I find a syringe is more precise and you can monitor how much she drinks. But make sure you change the syringe every 2 days. Milk residue can cause bacteria to grow.

Keeping fruits and veggies in the freezer will only slightly change the vitamin content. Not much difference if you keep it nicely in an air tight container. If you just leave it open in the freezer, bound to get freezer burn and it will cause oxidation. Don't defrost using microwave. You end up destroying some of the vitamins and enzymes with the radiation. And it is normal for fruits to become soggy after freezing cause the water defrosts faster than the fibers, so once the juice is all melted, the left over fibers become mushy.

Yups. It is normal. Some also end up sleeping in their food bowls.

Your Chipmunk just left? Died?

The cage is not suitable for chipmunk or glider. Both need huge cages to stay active, healthy and sane.
Are you and your friend going to live with each other for the next 10 to 15 years? Sharing a pair of pets is never a good idea. You can end up stressing the gliders if you guys go separate ways. And you must remember about breeding. Don't jump into conclusions that gliders are easy pets and easy to breed. Yes, they may appear easy, but then they are not.
Do not buy from the same parents if you are gonna get a male and female. Inbreeding..... animals do not have smart brains that can think like humans. Obviously we won't want to marry and have children with our brothers and sisters. Animals think using instinct, and that is to mate at a given chance, produce and breed to repopulate.
Read the first page and google about sugar gliders. They are cute but they require a lot of commitment.

Yes, it's ok. And it's good coz if you are thinking about breeding, then the female is not underage. But then think about it yah, about breeding and neutering. If you just want a companion for your female, then get another female.

Your joeys were seperated from their mom too young, so they never learn how to groom themselves. You have to wipe everyday and for quite some time before you can see and smell improvements. The unpleasant smell is from pee, joey musk and food.
Yes, joeys do musk, and it is a creamy whitish liquid from their butt that some people thought it is pee but it is their musk.

It's super hard with 22 gliders, but I can tell them apart alright hahaha. But sometimes I mix up with the joeys, coz they all almost look alike when they are young.

Now got joeys just OOP heheheh

Well, good that you are thinking about it and plan first. Make sure your family is alright with it.

Plan and read up on breeding. You must understand that breeding also will give you more cost. Neutering is more cost effective.

When you get a pair, they breed.... but what if the female dunno how to jaga joeys? You would have to be the "mom" and feed every 2 hours for the next 2 months. You seriously can do that or not? How about extra cage? Extra food? Extra accessories? What happens if the female dies from exhaustion?

Sugar gliders do not bond automatically. If joeys, bonding period is faster, like a few days to a few weeks. But if wild adults, they will take quite some time. And on the first day we should never touch them.

You also gotta understand, bonding with 2 gilders is quite hard. Coz they have each other, so they won't trust you properly and always see you as the predator while when you bond with them singly, they would slowly learn to trust you because they are forced to have you as a companion.

Remember, gliders are not domestic animals. They are wild animals, even if breed from breeder in captivity, they are still wild animals.

It is normal. As they lick something, they would bite cause they would like to extract more of the food stuff.

Welcome here.

I do have many friends from Indonesia. Which part are you from? But my friends say they have never seen gliders sold in Indo. But my friends are from Jakarta so maybe it's rare there.

Anyway, the best is do your own homemade food. Google for BML or Priscilla's diet, they are good to follow and give a variety of fruits. You don't need to feed too many crickets. 2 to 3 a day is enough. You can give a little fruit yogurt once a week, and order some stuff from the US for your gliders. Fruits, best is papaya but don't give too much coz very high in calcium. Later overdose if too much calcium.

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Added on March 12, 2010, 10:37 pmHigh calcium, low phosphorus.

Gliders are awake once the sun goes down. It can be from 7pm, but normally the glider is most active around 10pm onwards. So it depends on your gliders.

That is not barking. Barking sounds like puppy barking, and it is normally a sound to show they need you or they wanna communicate or they are sounding an alarm for danger.

What you heard is crabbing, sounds like a machine. It's to warn you that they are scared. Raising their hands means they are scared and angry, and will attack if you provoke more.

You should bond by using the pouch during the day. At night you should do handling and touching as a way to bond.

Your joey is crabbing mainly coz it is scared and still unsure. So any slight movement, weird sound or sudden action can cause a joey to crab. And the pouch provides security, so they would crab if you disturb their pouch too much also. But this will always happen to new joeys, once they are used to you, you won't hear much crabbing anymore.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Mar 12 2010, 10:37 PM

Your Venus is very adorable. Well, I'm guessing she could be biting you out of habit. How long have you had her? Sometimes gliders nip and bite to tell you something. My gliders nip me if I obstruct their mobility or hold them in an uncomfortable position and some would gnaw on me to groom me or show stress. So find out what ticks your joey off. It could be she is biting you out of habit or she just want to eat your fingers. Don't finger feed your joey anymore. Place food on your palm instead of coating on your finger and see how.

Yes. Use those that are free of alcohol and fragrance. Don't use those antibacterial coz it has alcohol or some sort of chemical that can be dangerous if it enters a glider's eyes.

It just takes time. As each glider bonds differently. Some bond in less than a week, some bond after a month.... so all you gotta do is slowly gain your joey's trust and companionship.

What some people do with cloth is that they wear it with them for a whole day. I'm not talking about baju here yah. You can get a piece of old cloth cut from an old tshirt or get those blankies or scent patches sold in pet store here. You just take that, wear it on your body or sleep on it till it has some of your scent. Some people would take this cloth and wipe their whole upper body (neck, arms, chest, face) and then leave it in the sleeping pouch for their joey. This lets your joey "smell" you and it will get used to your scent. Talk with it every now and then to get it used to your voice. If possible, try carrying it around in a bonding pouch for 4 to 6 hours during the day time to get it used to your movement as well.

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Added on March 15, 2010, 11:12 pmFrom my experience, they will all sleep together..... but they end up snatching and killing each others joeys before it OOPs. Better do not do this. Some websites say it's ok. But I already experience this and it is not healthy for the females.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Mar 15 2010, 11:12 PM

In time she will recognize your shampoo smell. As long it's not sprayed perfume or cologne or deodorant lah. It's best to let yourself settle a bit. After you bath, give like 30 minutes or an hour for the shampoo smell to settle, then you can handle Venus. I normally handle after I shower too but not immediately, normally I give an hour gap. That's just me anyway.

I think yours may not be 2 months....

See mine.... 2 months OOP.