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Did you just replied my post 4 years ago? Interesting to look back what I wrote 4 years back.
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Apr 4 2014, 01:14 PM)
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besides O&G, which engineering area have higest paid??
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QUOTE(Carl Johnson @ Apr 11 2014, 02:42 PM)
besides O&G, which engineering area have higest paid??
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post Apr 21 2014, 11:32 PM

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Hello,
Is accreditation by IChemE really important in Malaysia?
I want to apply UTAR Chemical Engineering.
It is accredited by BEM but not IChemE.
What will the impact be, will it affect my life later on if I want to find a job?
Thx for reading this.
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post Apr 23 2014, 12:48 PM

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I wanna ask a few questions
1. I want to continue my study in petroleum engineering. So does it mean I have to work at the oil rig?
2. Is Heriot Watt in Malaysia accredited by BEM & MQA?
3. Which private university in Malaysia have the best engineering course?

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Jan 31 2010, 06:03 AM)
Simple Guide to Engineering
This guide is meant for school leavers but may be relevant to current undergraduate students as well.  Feel free to post any comments or questions here. 

Who should study engineering?
If your first question is any of the following:

-  Which is the highest paying engineering field?
- Which is the best engineering field to study?
- I like engineering but I hate math and I am not interested in a dynamic, ever changing environment
- I can’t even be bothered to Google the main branches of engineering so I’ll just post in the forum asking people about what is [insert] engineering subject

So, if your question is any of the above, don’t bother going into engineering.  You’re much suited at something else.  This may seem harsh but for yours and the futures’ sake, it is better if you don’t go into engineering. 

The above aside, it is not always easy, especially for school leavers to perfectly pinpoint their interest in engineering be in mechanical, electrical etc.  But if you have the following trait:

- You like taking things apart, i.e. you like to understand how things work etc
- You find solving a problem exciting and you can spend hours trying to solve a problem
- You enjoy learning, you always try to learn about new things and are always curious
- You have an interest in science based subjects, like math, physics etc
- You like getting hands on and wouldn’t mind getting your hands dirty

These are some signs that engineering might just be right for you although bear in mind there are other field of study that requires some of the same traits. 

Which engineering subject should I go for?
It is usually not easy for you to be absolutely certain about what you want to do at this stage.  Congratulations and good for you if you know what you want to do, so go for it. 

If you don’t know, then you will have to start speaking to course consultants/seniors and look deep within yourself.  Do you find mechanical parts, i.e. cars, moving parts fascinating?  Do you find electronics interesting?  These are some of the things you can explore.

Alternatively, after finishing school you will almost certainly have some free time at hand.  Try getting work in a local small size firm, people might be willing to hire you if you don’t mind too much about the pay and would be more than happy to plunge into and get your hands dirty.  I found a hint of my interest by working in a contractor firm as an errand boy during holiday. 

Next Step
Once you have a rough idea of which field you like, a personal suggestion is always to avoid plunging too deep into it too quickly, especially if it is a specialised field. 

What you can do, is start at the core engineering courses, e.g. E&E, mechanical, civil etc as a lot of times for degree level studies, you can branch into a more specialised area once you have completed your degree. 

Starting at a core subject is much better than a specialised subject as throughout your course, there is a very good chance that your interest may change, and it’s not a good idea if you’re locked into a specialised subject at this stage. 

I know some may *think* they are absolutely certain that is what they want to do, but my advice is still to start with a core course.  You may take a slightly longer route by starting at core course, e.g. you spend an extra year.  On the other hand, if you start off with a specialised course and decide to change later, you would have wasted a lot more time and effort. 

Lastly, with a core engineering course, it would be easier for you to branch into other areas, even after you have started working. 

Final Step
After you’ve made up your mind, go out and talk to people, especially your seniors.  They may shed some new light on your decision.  Also, speak to various course consultants in the university, for the sake of your money, they will try their best to help you (which is also a good reminder to speak to a few people, just like you wouldn’t trust the decision of one doctor alone, especially if you need to spend RM200,000 to follow their advice). 

Frequently asked questions about engineering
I am interested in cars, buildings and robotics, what should I do?
First off, be aware that these are generic interests.  A lot of people enjoy eating and food but not everyone is interested in how the food is produced etc.  So keep that in mind.

Secondly, you can have more than one interest, but you can’t have more than one career at one time.  Also, hold on to something or fall in everything.  Think hard which is the one you want. 

Oil & Gas/Nanotechnology/Renewable energy etc is really popular now and well paid, and I have some interest in it, so can I go for this?
Of course you can if that is what you like to do.  However, if your decision is swayed by the amount of money you’ll make, then do so at your own peril. 

Don’t forget it’ll take you four years to graduate, by that time anything could have happened and robots might have replaced all engineers out there, who knows?  If you go down this route, you’ll end up with a degree in something you only have a vague interest in and no one would hire you.  Good luck. 

Alternatively, you might end up with something that you like and are passionate about and no one would hire you.  I’m sure it’s clear which one gives you a better chance. 

Should I go for Masters?
Yes, it is becoming the norm nowadays and my view is that it will become the new ‘degree’ in the future, i.e. the minimum education threshold before people employ you.  Don’t forget Chindia is churning out tonnes of competent graduates each year, you’ll need all the advantage you can get. 

I like [insert] engineering course, but I heard jobs are not available nowadays?
It’s true there are jobs out there which have been replaced because of new technology etc.  This applies not just in engineering but in other dynamic careers. 

As long as you like what you do and are good at what you do, your skills will be sought after and you can always carry your problem solving skills into another area.  The real danger is when you graduate with a course that you don’t like.
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post Apr 30 2014, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(anbb @ Apr 23 2014, 12:48 PM)
I wanna ask a few questions
1. I want to continue my study in petroleum engineering. So does it mean I have to work at the oil rig?
2. Is Heriot Watt in Malaysia accredited by BEM & MQA?
3. Which private university in Malaysia have the best engineering course?
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1. no
2. do your homework, google it 1st, dun expect spoon feed
3. best?? based on what?? best money?
best ranking?? best lecture?? best facilities??
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post Apr 30 2014, 05:44 PM

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Hi, here to ask some may-off-topic questions, recently im a STPM leaver and waiting for IPTA intake... i'm interested in engineer (civil the most), Just ask

1. If i complete my study with architecture in IPTA, can i study civil engineer (degree) again in IPTA? (no money to IPTS)

2. If can, which route shuld i go to the admissions? Adult class? Which cert it refer to? Does it still need my old STPM result?

3. Can i take major + minor or double major or double degree in IPTA? (Heard from others is no.)

Just ask these because scared cannot get civil engineer course in IPTA. =( heard competitive in civil without 4 flat.
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QUOTE(walaua94 @ Apr 30 2014, 05:44 PM)
Hi, here to ask some may-off-topic questions, recently im a STPM leaver and waiting for IPTA intake... i'm interested in engineer (civil the most), Just ask

1. If i complete my study with architecture in IPTA, can i study civil engineer (degree) again in IPTA? (no money to IPTS)

2. If can, which route shuld i go to the admissions? Adult class? Which cert it refer to? Does it still need my old STPM result?

3. Can i take major + minor or double major or double degree in IPTA? (Heard from others is no.)

Just ask these because scared cannot get civil engineer course in IPTA. =( heard competitive in civil without 4 flat.
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To secure your place in civil engineering even in top IPTA universities, you only need around 3.5-3.7 cgpa in STPM.
Civil engineering is one of the lowest cgpa needed in Engineering among other engineering like Electrical, Chemical, Electronics, Aerospace etc.

Some questions hard to answer because different universities may have different rules. For example, USM do not have major, minor in engineering faculty.
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[quote=Geminist,Jan 31 2010, 05:03 AM]

Hi, thanks for your information it's useful.

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Is it better for me to take up computer science? Since I will pursue my further study in engineering course. (Currently waiting for the intake of matriculation)

Actually, I don't really interested in studying computer science. In fact, I also haven't much knowledge and concept about what computer science is.

Can somebody please explain briefly about computer science?

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hi guys, i just finished my matrik waiting for ipta intake in september, i have chosen petroleum engineering utm chemical engineering UM and USM

may i know which computer should i buy for my future engineering courses? i planned to buy MSI GE70 2PE Apache Pro Intel Core i7-4700HQ http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/laptops/130...-2pe-apache-pro for running graphic intensive games, autoCAD, matlab, and other engineering simulation software, or should i build a custom small portable SFF desktop on my own and buy a cheaper netbook for portability? thanks a million =)

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Apr 30 2014, 06:59 PM)
To secure your place in civil engineering even in top IPTA universities, you only need around 3.5-3.7 cgpa in STPM.
Civil engineering is one of the lowest cgpa needed in Engineering among other engineering like Electrical, Chemical, Electronics, Aerospace etc.

Some questions hard to answer because different universities may have different rules. For example, USM do not have major, minor in engineering faculty.
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LOL, lately, the requirement being rised quite a lot already. Averagely you need 3.8 even for the last time lowest CGPA's Civil Engineering.
sos (sorry it is in Chinese)
http://www.quansheng.org/p/blog-page_11.html

Worse that some U had cut down the quota to make way for foreign student, so the competition aren't as easy as you thought would be.

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QUOTE(walaua94 @ Apr 30 2014, 05:44 PM)
Hi, here to ask some may-off-topic questions, recently im a STPM leaver and waiting for IPTA intake... i'm interested in engineer (civil the most), Just ask

1. If i complete my study with architecture in IPTA, can i study civil engineer (degree) again in IPTA? (no money to IPTS)

2. If can, which route shuld i go to the admissions? Adult class? Which cert it refer to? Does it still need my old STPM result?

3. Can i take major + minor or double major or double degree in IPTA? (Heard from others is no.)

Just ask these because scared cannot get civil engineer course in IPTA. =( heard competitive in civil without 4 flat.
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1. I will suggest you the other way round. Since for Civil Engineering, you deal with calculations, so you better have good foundation in Maths and Physics. Architecture on the other hand is about art. Your STPM's qualification (I assume you are of science stream) will have a higher chance to get a slot when you just done your STPM than after 5 years studying architecture (architecture degree is 3+2 years IINM).

An engineering degree course will took 4 years. After your graduation with your engineering degree, you can still consider to apply for degree in architecture. Though I guess the basic interview process will still apply, and it still largely depend on your luck to see if they accept you. But I highly doubt you will still be interested or passionate to get a Degree in Architecture provided your Civil Engineering lecturers probably often brainwashing you that Architect is evil, wasting, illogical and bla bla.

2. As above, it shall go back to your STPM. Your degree in old field won't interfere with the newer field. You have to start all over from scratch.

3. AFAIK, nope. Also, not much IPTA actually offering Architecture and Engineering together. Even so they also gonna be 2 separate faculties which don't interact or interfere.

And yup, Civil Engineering in IPTA have becoming more and more high requirement.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 3 2014, 01:13 AM)
LOL, lately, the requirement being rised quite a lot already. Averagely you need 3.8 even for the last time lowest CGPA's Civil Engineering.
sos (sorry it is in Chinese)
http://www.quansheng.org/p/blog-page_11.html
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This is a good reference for everyone. Thanks for sharing. laugh.gif

Let's take USM Civil Engineering as an example, link
From the table, 2012/2013 for STPM min-max still do need 3.50-3.92 to get Civil Engineering.
2013/2014 table for UTM, need cgpa 3.67-3.92.
2013/2014 table for UM, need cgpa 3.50-3.92.

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ May 3 2014, 01:33 AM)
This is a good reference for everyone. Thanks for sharing.  laugh.gif

Let's take USM Civil Engineering as an example, link
From the table, 2012/2013 for STPM min-max still do need 3.50-3.92 to get Civil Engineering.
2013/2014 table for UTM, need cgpa 3.67-3.92.
2013/2014 table for UM, need cgpa 3.50-3.92.
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And majority of them are at the upper boundary (what I mean is the 3.5x candidate just 1 or 2 person, while most of the rest are the top score)...

Also, take a look at UPM, LEL... Only 5 candicates and minimum also 3.84... rolleyes.gif
http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/202428953...iew_mode=scroll

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 3 2014, 01:40 AM)
And majority of them are at the upper boundary...

Also, take a look at UPM, LEL... Only 5 candicates and minimum also 3.84... rolleyes.gif
http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/202428953...iew_mode=scroll
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Seems getting tougher and tougher to enter. brows.gif

Do notice that USM and UTM recruit a lot of civil engineering students. shocking.gif
So, if student hit the minimum requirement mark, they have a chance. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ May 3 2014, 01:56 AM)
Seems getting tougher and tougher to enter.  brows.gif

Do notice that USM and UTM recruit a lot of civil engineering students.  shocking.gif
So, if student hit the minimum requirement mark, they have a chance. laugh.gif
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Actually UM do shocked me.

More than half of their candidates are non-bumi. hmm.gif
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Hi guys ,

I just saw you guys mentioning the minimum STPM CGPA to enter some of the engineering courses , but how about the CCA part?

Since I wasn't really that active during Form 1 to 3 , so my koko grade wasn't that high for SPM. The most i can get is a B for STPM sweat.gif

Will my chances still be high to enter the competitive engineering course providing if I hit the CGPA for STPM but only with a koko grade of B? icon_question.gif

Hmm , after a thorough research , I've changed my mind and it's Chemical Engineering.

Thanks.

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