So is that tweeter real or fake, can someone else confirm for sure?
Speaker Discovery Channel, Speaker brand giving fake spec
Speaker Discovery Channel, Speaker brand giving fake spec
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Jan 17 2010, 10:58 PM
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So is that tweeter real or fake, can someone else confirm for sure?
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Jan 17 2010, 11:02 PM
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Fake!
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Jan 17 2010, 11:07 PM
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That one is Piezo tweeter lmao~ i wonder how Sonic Gear fans react when they see that
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Jan 17 2010, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jan 17 2010, 04:32 PM) i oso keep thinking. if it is fake tweeter. why they so borther to solder cable on it. it waste 2 wire and worker time too. haha... the cable is to make it look like real, anyway i already dismantle the metal part of the tweeter so i will show u all the items i get after i dismantle it.could it be a peizo tweeter covered by plastic infront to mimic normal tweeter out look? hm.. The SG boss will tell u " it look like peizo tweeter, made like peizo tweeter but it is not peizo tweeter" Beside that, i also find out the IC for the sub is TDA2030 which max RMS is 14w (Correct me if i m wrong), but the RMS stated by SG is 18w for the woofer. How the extra 4w RMS came fr??? I m think a way to take the picture of the IC, anyone can help? Below a some pic of the dismantle tweeter, hope u guy like it This post has been edited by 7Eleven: Jan 17 2010, 11:11 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Jan 17 2010, 11:16 PM
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From wikipedia:
"While piezoelectric tweeters are cheap and rugged when compared to typical voice coil tweeters, most are not capable of the same level of linearity and accuracy of reproduction compared to high quality conventional tweeter designs. Piezoelectric tweeters are most commonly found in inexpensive stereo and public address speakers, where cost and reliability are more important than accuracy." |
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Jan 17 2010, 11:23 PM
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I can confirm this is fake tweeter, because b4 i dismantle the speaker i can't even hear any sound fr the tweeter even i higher up the main volume and treble.
If u planning to visit the computer shop, u can try it out yourself. |
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Jan 17 2010, 11:33 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This thing call buzzer rather than 'speaker'. Well, only those poor speaker use those unit, really nothing to said, because the power handling is small like mosquito, without any housing, useless... |
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Jan 17 2010, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(7Eleven @ Jan 17 2010, 11:23 PM) I can confirm this is fake tweeter, because b4 i dismantle the speaker i can't even hear any sound fr the tweeter even i higher up the main volume and treble. that's because this type of tweeter needs a LOT of power to get as loud as a normal tweeter would need.If u planning to visit the computer shop, u can try it out yourself. unless you are giving pure sine wave like most digital watches have in their beepers trust me they may sound nothing at all but they actually sounded extremely soft till it's inaudible anymore QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jan 17 2010, 11:33 PM) This thing call buzzer rather than 'speaker'. Well, only those poor speaker use those unit, really nothing to said, because the power handling is small like mosquito, without any housing, useless... more like very bigThis post has been edited by power911: Jan 17 2010, 11:43 PM |
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Jan 17 2010, 11:43 PM
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Yup, especially it connected parallel with the 'real' driver, the signal was drawn by the midrange driver adi, if u only connects the cable to the so called 'tweeter', it will gives some kind of 'mosquito' treble sound...lol...
Anyway, u can get this thing in everywhere, example ur digital watch which got alarm buzz, exactly the same thing... |
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Jan 17 2010, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jan 17 2010, 11:39 PM) that's because this type of tweeter needs a LOT of power to get as loud as a normal tweeter would need. Thanks for the info, not wonder i can't hear anything unless you are giving pure sine wave like most watches have in their beepers trust me they may sound nothing at all but they actually sounded extremely soft till it's inaudible anymore This post has been edited by 7Eleven: Jan 17 2010, 11:50 PM |
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Jan 17 2010, 11:55 PM
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since it is inaudible for human ear, what is the point of having it there?
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Jan 17 2010, 11:57 PM
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Good question!
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Jan 18 2010, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jan 17 2010, 11:55 PM) lolso that ppl trust their ear. instead of eye.. that's why sonic gear said :trust your ear.. because what your eye see. can fool you. u see a tweeter, but it is not.. lol. trust ur ear. if it is crap . it's crap. no matter they got tweeter or not. |
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Jan 18 2010, 12:05 AM
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^ lol, i like ur last sentence.
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Jan 18 2010, 12:05 AM
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Jan 18 2010, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(7Eleven @ Jan 17 2010, 11:23 PM) I can confirm this is fake tweeter, because b4 i dismantle the speaker i can't even hear any sound fr the tweeter even i higher up the main volume and treble. So did u lodge a report to tribunal?? about the fake tweeter and fake RMS rating??If u planning to visit the computer shop, u can try it out yourself. btw, i am a ex SG evo3 user |
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Jan 18 2010, 12:53 AM
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lodge report already then what can they do? i doubt they care
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Jan 18 2010, 09:40 AM
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Just try it with an external amp, the tweeter will provide a very very low sound like bro coolkwc mention - 'mosquito' treble sound
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Jan 18 2010, 02:43 PM
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at least they didn't lie saying got a tweeter but show no tweeter
QUOTE(PcWork @ Jan 18 2010, 12:02 AM) lol LOL nice so that ppl trust their ear. instead of eye.. that's why sonic gear said :trust your ear.. because what your eye see. can fool you. u see a tweeter, but it is not.. lol. trust ur ear. if it is crap . it's crap. no matter they got tweeter or not. This post has been edited by power911: Jan 18 2010, 02:52 PM |
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Jan 18 2010, 03:39 PM
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Mosquito type sound ar? So when play this speaker you will have the illusion that there are mosquito flying around?
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