In regards to the Pro Apps, ever tried running any of them on a Macbook White?

Oh yes, optimizations, you've finally gotten the picture here. How much stripping down do you need to do anyways from a full desktop app? For something like this, its actually easier to start from something basic and build up from there, rather than take something big to strip down.

Let's face it shall we, even if you're to strip down from a desktop app, you're still bound to get complaints. What more to say when they have to strip out something else later? Even more complaints?

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Added on February 2, 2010, 11:28 amOf which pretty much defeats the multi orientation capabilities of the device already. Besides, ever thought of what happens when you need to fit more than 1 person into a video chat session on a screen with portrait orientation? squeeze squeeze squeeze (on the human side)

tried using the iPod nano with the camera? Sure, nobody would want to block the lens on purpose, but the form factor does cause this to happen a lot by accident to the point that it gets annoying.

This post has been edited by fyire: Feb 2 2010, 11:28 AM

he replying to the post on how netbook cant play opengl games but A4 is powerful enough to play it. 3D games can be played on most netbook (even with GMA950 on low settings) so he's argument whether the A4 proc can play those games is valid because the other poster claimed it can.

never meant OSX should be put in the iPad with the current spec.. just that apple can do much better job implement better hardware to iPad to run OSX but the refuse because probably:

1. want to get as high profit margin as possible with the price their suggested which is almost as high as the highest spec notebook (alienware gaming netbook)
2. keep it until the 2nd or 3rd gen so they can generate money that way because let face it.. apple WILL replace the 1st gen iPad in very short time ala iphone.

Probably true, but what is stopping Apple from producing a Modbook version for themselves, and still have that "instant performance, instant boot up everything"?

Please don't get me wrong, for the A4+iPhone Os, that would be best, but there is an equally large number of people who are as interested on the portability of the tablet form, but with significantly more power than what's offered by the A4+iPhone OS combo.

I don't see people complaining about the thickness of the current Macbook Pro, and losing that keyboard in favor of a touch-based interface would make it even thinner than it is now. What is stopping this form factor/spec? You might say the touch-based UI is not yet in place in OSX but, then again, all this while, all your Macbooks were never a touchscreen anyway, why would Apple place a touch feature on a hardware that does not support it? Introduce the tablet, and in tandem, introduce the accompanying touchscreen UI that would complement that form factor.

the ipad will not be able to run osx, even with better hardware because the ipad will got too hot for normal use. Even now, i cannot even tahan the heat when puting my mbp on my lap.

and they want to earn more money from their apps store.

With thickness comes weight. and keep in mind that the weight is indeed a constraint, considering that this is a device meant to be held in a single hand on the edges only. But seriously, try it out for yourself. Try holding a macbook air (with a closed lid) the same way a tablet is to be held, and see how long before your wrist gets sore.

God I really need to go!



Then build it from the base up. Just don't skimp on the specs, Apple. Knowing Apple, they aren't a strip-down kind of people, they move up. Take advantage on this momentum. The expected initial aversion towards a new way of interfacing with your applications on your hardware will always be there, and people will always whine because having to learn new things and leave the old ways behind, but they will begrudgingly follow through and in no time, it will be second nature to them.

Tada! and that's what they did too. Take the iPhone OS as a base and build it up from there.

Dude, do you realize that you just debunked your own arguments here?

Remove the keyboard. Remove the touchpad. Remove unnecessary components. It's already moving in that direction with the Macbook-->Air. Carbon fibre the shell. There lots of other ways to do it, and Apple's more than bullish than trying new engineering feats and unorthodox production methods.

Seriously, what is stopping Apple from putting a CULV processor instead of the A4, maintain the storage capacity SSD chips, while still maintaining the iPad form factor, or making it slightly thicker for cooling purposes?

Let's see now, the first thing that comes to mind will be the cost? The moment you've have the cost go above the price of the macbook white for any of the models, you're in for a world of pain when it comes to marketing.

To apple it is plain simple why create a product to kill your own product... say a iPad with OSX can certainly kill a Mac Book Air...

they don't want that...

Secondly yes OSX can optimixe to use on touchpad say iPad... would you use it... generally the OSX was design from ground up to be a Operating system (OS) with no touch screen optimization...

yes they can modify to have it touch screen compatible... but then again why... it is not going to be 100% perfect... because it is simple OSX is not design for touch screen... it can be done but it is not friendly...

OS3 for iphone is made with ground up to be a touch screen OS... you cannot use OS3 to be a full fledge OS imagene OS3 on a Macbook hahaha or imac Wahahaha!!!! it does not work...

so why OS3 on iPad... simple iPad is design for touch screen interface and logically a touch screen software is the only logical to go with it...

that is why iPhone is such a success over the other smart phone.. it is because the OS is optimize for touch screen... yeah loving it too
Others OS tried to duplicate the success by tweaking their OS and such.. but they cannot beat iPhone... so simple when a OS is not design to use it then don't...

So many things you (PM) can do with your citizen, now you want make some noise the things you not even sure what it is....

malu nya...

Insted focusing on KPI they wanted to sue hahaha
no hope laaa seriously...

its joke article la...... read 1st, lol

Easy. Market is as how they're marketing the segmentation of their current MB/MBP/MBA right now. Majority will pick the iPad which those with specific needs will have the option of getting the more specced up tablet. But the again you'll bring up the streamlining of lineup argument again, so.....

Really gotta go. The plane's here.

That is what apple just did
let's say we have MacBook-MacBook air- MacBook pro
now we have
ipod touch - iPhone - iPad

yay it rimes Wala complete hahahaha

by the way if you are femiliar with apple key business that's is the way to go haha
they are focusing on online stores now hahaha hell they made alot of profit from there

talking about profit, wow...take a look at this!!

http://www.telecomasia.net/content/ipad-te...t-208-each-unit

10 Reasons Why Apple iPad'sonna fail

And this is according to gadgetophilia. Whilst the dust settles on Apple's recently announced iPad, it seems the hype has died down and everyone has an opinion on Apple's latest creation. In short, there is nothing that deserved the hype and the device simply sucks if said politely. Here are some reasons why this device fails:

1. No Multitasking
Do you know that if you concentrate on only one thing at a time, you can do that more efficiently than otherwise. Apple has come out with its own way to teach us that old proverb. No multitasking on iPad. Come on Apple! We want to listen to music when browsing the net or we want to download some files while we are watching a video. Earlier I said that we have little or no use of multitasking on a mobile phone due to its limited screen size but this is certainly not true for a device that is trying to replace a full fledged laptop or netbook.

2. Uncomfortable Keyboard
This was quite obvious that the iPad would have a virtual keyboard because there is no space for an actual hardware keyboard. And those who have used virtual keyboard, know that typing even an e-mail on it may be a headache and if you are a blogger or just a professional who have to type for a few hours, this is simply not the device for you. From the pictures available on the net, if you thought that you can just put the device on the table and type on the virtual keyboard like a normal keyboard, soon you'll find it impossible as the device's back is not perfectly flat and it kind of wobbles when you put it on a flat surface. This makes the virtual keyboard more difficult to use. However, you can connect a Bluetooth keyboard to the device and continue typing comfortably but then I have to say that you can also add two more wheels to your existing two wheeler to ride it like a car!

3. No WebCam
Yesterday I posted that the device should at least have an WebCam that will allow us to conduct video chat over a high speed internet connection. But Apple, with their infinite wisdom has decided that they can allow VoIP calls over 3G. We are very very pleased that you have given us your kind privilege to use the service. Oh! Apple is so generous! A cheap $400 Asus Eee PC Netbook can do VoIP or Video Chat through its WebCam but those devices are cheap anyway and Apple is obviously the synonym of glamor.

4. No Flash Support
Even if the standard smartphones have the flash support built-in their browsers nowadays, neither iPhone nor the iPod has the Flash support. And now, iPad also comes without the Flash support. The lack of Flash support in those tiny display browsers were pardonable but in a device that is going to be competing with the full fledged netbooks/laptops, this is going mean a deal breaker for many. Even the casual internet users won't forgive those gaping holes in the webpage which were supposed to be making the website more colorful. And also, forget about streaming video on webpage!

5. Ugly Adapters
You need to connect any device to the iPad? You just need to have the adapter for that device. Oh! We are so glad that we can at least connect our devices to it! Thank you Apple for your generosity to us. History will remember this.

6. Go to Apple Store for Apps
iPad can only run apps from the Apple App Store. No other Apps shall be entertained. Period.

7. No HDMI
Want to watch those nice HD Videos in your big HDTV screen when your iPad screen seems too small? No there is no HDMI to view the HD videos you've just downloaded from iTunes. And it is a sin that you thought the Apple iPad would connect to some Samsung HDTV. You shouldn't expect that Apple will allow follow any standard interface. They'll rather create an interface of their own!

8. Battery
We carry a spare wheel with our car. The Car can go flat. I will then replace that with my spare wheel. But forget this simple things with Apple. Touch their battery and void the warranty. They list that the battery life will last for 10 hours but I doubt if it will run for any longer than six hours. This is too low especially if we keep in mind that some netbooks(=computers) are now able to reach the 10 hour mark.

9. MicroSIM
Did anyone know that such term existed before Apple declared it? Well, I guess not. The device is supposed to be unlocked and you can use any carrier with it but currently, the SIM is only available from AT&T. Therefore, don't expect to run it on any cheap T-Mobile plans because they don't have the SIM. Do you know any other carrier that uses this SIM? The answer is apparently, Ahem, No.

10. Too Big Bezel
Don't you also think that the Bezel is too big to be called a decent one?

The ones I bolded are the ones I think the casual consumers won't really care when they buy the iPad.

I don't mind hahahaha kekekeke

Ha, fyire! iPad might get a camera afterall...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/02/apple-i...pruder-edition/