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post Jan 29 2010, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:40 PM)
guys... the one reason y'all are complaining is the price.
I tell you what, why don't you complain when Apple actually sells 10 million units.

this is not a miniaturised Mac. its a tablet, not even a tablet Mac.

its a portable companion to your main computer (Mac or PC) ...

if that's unacceptable, don't buy it!

complain here, too expensive la, Apple margin too high la, its not a netbook la, I can get the same spec somewhere else la...

get a grip. Steve doesn't care about your whining. If your points are true, a year from now, the product will be discontinued, like the iPod HiFi ...
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wow..it took a while for me to think wtf is ipod hifi

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post Jan 29 2010, 03:17 PM

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it's exactly the same as Iphone, only with bigger screen. with some tiny upgrades. the worst part is, it still doesn't support flash players!!! and no inbuild webcam!!
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post Jan 29 2010, 03:35 PM

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er... I'm hardly a fanboi. I only own a iPhone 3G. my own Mac is a 6 year old TiBook.


I'm just tired of the complaining without facts to back it up.

For US$ 499, trust me, millions of desktop PC & Mac users will get one. it also means people can get a iPod / iPhone experience without signing a contract, and with a 9.7 inch screen.

again, this is not a full-blown computer. Steve is trying to find out where the sweet-spot is, how much can you strip down OS X and still sell a mass-market (not fanboy) product smile.gif
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post Jan 29 2010, 03:39 PM

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It's still sells no matter how much you guys are whining and complaining about it.

This device has it's potential but it hasn't open up yet.
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post Jan 29 2010, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Jan 29 2010, 03:35 PM)
again, this is not a full-blown computer. Steve is trying to find out where the sweet-spot is, how much can you strip down OS X and still sell a mass-market (not fanboy) product smile.gif
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People were expecting something like this.

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The stork flew in and dropped this.

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See the problem? Of course people are having a kerbau.

For me personally, I see potential in PSPgo (done right this time, not by Sony regrettably) + colour Kindle + every MP4 or MP5 player you can think of. If they drop the price down to 1500 I will definitely grab. And I don't even have an Apple product in my house.
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post Jan 29 2010, 03:54 PM

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It will sell good or not for what I care. All I care is I want the basic thing that could replace noob netbook. The iPad fail to impress majority of the consumer.

It's all depend on personal preference. To me, being a non-mac geek, the iPad is the worst tablet define by Apple ever. I can't see any potential since it's using iPhone OS, with no Multitask, no FLASH (Steve still stubborn you know), no usb port, nothing to brag about! The huge screen should offer more, like MacOSX, Multitask, Flash player, and USB Port (it's big, it should have USB port!). I can't seem to think what's the reason there aren't any of these? If you're talking about application, you need to BUY again the same application that already have inside your iPhone. Pointless.

If you're telling me it has potential cause same OS like the iPhone, you're wrong. Seriously.

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QUOTE(huattk @ Jan 29 2010, 03:46 PM)
People were expecting something like this.

user posted image

The stork flew in and dropped this.

user posted image

See the problem? Of course people are having a kerbau.

For me personally, I see potential in PSPgo (done right this time, not by Sony regrettably) + colour Kindle + every MP4 or MP5 player you can think of. If they drop the price down to 1500 I will definitely grab. And I don't even have an Apple product in my house.
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FYI: I don't think the iPad can ever act as a computer. Every idea is unique, so is Apple's. I agree its nice and cool but it will NEVER be able to act as a computer for me.
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One potentially fatal problem for those thinking of waiting for the Wifi + 3G model, is the micro-SIM slot. IIANM, none of the telcos in Malaysia adopts micro-SIM sizes for their telephony or data customers. Micro-SIMs are generally used in location-aware devices like child locators or parking meter personnel, or power-meter inspectors to transmit their data to HQ after punching in your bill after inspecting the meter.

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Now what? Surgically mutilate your SIM card?

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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Jan 29 2010, 03:35 PM)
er... I'm hardly a fanboi. I only own a iPhone 3G. my own Mac is a 6 year old TiBook.
I'm just tired of the complaining without facts to back it up.

For US$ 499, trust me, millions of desktop PC & Mac users will get one. it also means people can get a iPod / iPhone experience without signing a contract, and with a 9.7 inch screen.

again, this is not a full-blown computer. Steve is trying to find out where the sweet-spot is, how much can you strip down OS X and still sell a mass-market (not fanboy) product smile.gif
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USD 499 is not a small amount and if you take into consideration of what a netbook can do for like USD150 less, it really makes you wonder. I do believe he is looking for this sweet-spot but with ipad, it is in the middle of no where to most of us. It is not exactly a portable device neither it is a computer. If you ask me, a Lenovo U1 Hybrid makes more sense.

QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jan 29 2010, 03:39 PM)
It's still sells no matter how much you guys are whining and complaining about it.

This device has it's potential but it hasn't open up yet.
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very constructive reply indeed

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post Jan 29 2010, 04:43 PM

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It support wat video format ?
TS,TP,MPEG2,VOB,MKV or etc can convert and support it ?

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post Jan 29 2010, 04:44 PM

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btw, if y'all haven't realised, Steve doesn't care what people expect, or who is having a kerbau.

if the Tablet is so good, the idea so cool, explain to me why in the last 5 years, not one single company has turned a profit on this product line?

I have a running bet, I will bet RM500 against anyone else, that iPhone OS *will not* support Adobe Flash playback. Don't ask me why, go read up ... I have 4 good reasons smile.gif

can we please stop comparing netbooks to iPads smile.gif ... the simple fact is that Steve & co can't find a way to do a Mac netbook... but maybe the iPad is a step in that direction...
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jan 29 2010, 03:57 PM)
One potentially fatal problem for those thinking of waiting for the Wifi + 3G model, is the micro-SIM slot. IIANM, none of the telcos in Malaysia adopts micro-SIM sizes for their telephony or data customers. Micro-SIMs are generally used in location-aware devices like child locators or parking meter personnel, or power-meter inspectors to transmit their data to HQ after punching in your bill after inspecting the meter.

user posted image

Now what? Surgically mutilate your SIM card?
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now this is something worth complaining a lot tongue.gif

i appreciate no flash anyway. i dont play flash games, i only use it for videos. when html5 hits mainstream then i wont be missing flash smile.gif
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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Jan 29 2010, 04:44 PM)
btw, if y'all haven't realised, Steve doesn't care what people expect, or who is having a kerbau.

if the Tablet is so good, the idea so cool, explain to me why in the last 5 years, not one single company has turned a profit on this product line?

I have a running bet, I will bet RM500 against anyone else, that iPhone OS *will not* support Adobe Flash playback. Don't ask me why, go read up ... I have 4 good reasons smile.gif

can we please stop comparing netbooks to iPads smile.gif ... the simple fact is that Steve & co can't find a way to do a Mac netbook... but maybe the iPad is a step in that direction...
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we have to compare against a netbook because as a consumer, we have to look at our options since these gadgets are not cheap. how many will buy a netbook + ipad? unless that person is loaded, i doubt most of us will. therefore we have to weigh the pros and cons of each. looking at current response, ipad will be a niche market product.

QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jan 29 2010, 04:49 PM)
now this is something worth complaining a lot tongue.gif

i appreciate no flash anyway. i dont play flash games, i only use it for videos. when html5 hits mainstream then i wont be missing flash smile.gif
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and wait you shall for the years to come.
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i hope any of the complaint brothers here dun ever buy iPad.. Imagine every where got peoples holding iPad..haha

I just bored to see every 10 ppl on the street... almost 3 ppl is holding iphone. And it holds me whether to get my iphone or not. Too alot of ppl holding the same gadget.

It makes me feels like i am visiting Apple Technology Park.

Yeah! i gonna get this iPad!
At least not many got the courage to take this baby.

One thing which make iphone so powerful which is the Apps. iPad is gonna rocks steady depends on how the 3rd Party Apps supporting it now.

I can imagine playing games thru Wifi.. Own tablet but sharing a same game scene like Racing car game?!
(haha...macam not so practical for long term period.)

In fact, i don't use webcam..haha. Lucky i don't have a cute face to show the world.

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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Jan 29 2010, 04:44 PM)
btw, if y'all haven't realised, Steve doesn't care what people expect, or who is having a kerbau.

if the Tablet is so good, the idea so cool, explain to me why in the last 5 years, not one single company has turned a profit on this product line?

I have a running bet, I will bet RM500 against anyone else, that iPhone OS *will not* support Adobe Flash playback. Don't ask me why, go read up ... I have 4 good reasons smile.gif

can we please stop comparing netbooks to iPads smile.gif ... the simple fact is that Steve & co can't find a way to do a Mac netbook... but maybe the iPad is a step in that direction...
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This whole uproar is partially Apple's doing, IMO. The tablet is Apple's unicorn, something that is long seen overdue, but Apple presumably have moved its introduction back since 1983. That is 27 long years! Can you blame the pent-up anticipation for this, and the utter disdain when this is revealed instead of a proper tablet? The iPad is akin more towards the Apple TV, than any computing device, and Steve bringing up that presentation slide about "the tablet and the ten commandments in it" does make it look like the unicorn has finally arrived. Instead, we get this. Even without personally being at the Keynote venue itself, you can sort of sense the excitement at first, and the increasing silence as more was revealed about the iPad.

Now Apple have always stuck to their guns and do things their way, but consumer wants and needs should form part of the basis on what should be and what should not be included in their "latest creation". "Sticking completely to their guns" is the antithesis of the very spirit of which Ives reiterated when he introduces the iPad, and I quote "I don't have to change myself to fit the product, it fits me". Now, how is this possible when I have to change myself to fit this product when I choose to use it, instead of Apple listening more closely to what the consumer wants, and "fits them"? Kinda ironic, isnt it?

Now I can easily "choose" not to use this, a.k.a not buying it at all, but since this is the only product made available by them, is there a choice first to begin with? Those who yearns for an Apple-based computing tablet, will continue to wait, or pare down expectations and work within the restrictions placed by Apple in this product. Others, for example like me, choose other products like the Viliv, but still yearns that Apple experience and tailor our choice to mimic as closely as what we imagine an Apple computing tablet is. This very same argument is also the very reason why I have yet to adopt a Macbook Pro into my family of Apple products, because of Job's insistence that BD is a "bag of hurt", even when people are clamoring for it. First that, and now this? I'll continue to wait, or if I can't, tone done my expectations, sadly, to an experience that could have been better than THIS.

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At lease iTab wasn't replaced, hahaha.
I need a larger screen for most of my iPhone apps. My reason to get an iPad.
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QUOTE(OdynVovk @ Jan 29 2010, 05:18 PM)
i dont get the gist of "having a kerbau". is that some sort of a catchphrase ?
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Have a cow. Should be "lembu" instead of "kerbau" but eh. *shrugs*

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the Apple iPad is a decent device that is mostly used in the comforts of a home as an EXTRA device.

Vision this, You are watching tv and wanted to surf the web at the same time during commercials, Although notebooks serves this purpose of portability, but iPad is more portable than any other handheld device with a large screen. Although it sucks without having multitasking capabilities in the device... Haih...

As for music and video? I don't this the iPad is good enough for that. Portable media? Sure, Dozens of iPods and iPhones can be used for that. Media playback is like too general already. Most devices has media playback capability.

It's nice to see the future of Ebooks. In colour, but with only 8 hours of battery life. it seems abit poor... What if you are studying last minute then kapoof? Dead man walking...

As for price... We all know Apple.

The 3G version i think too much. I'd rather have an iPhone.
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Hey guys..chillex..read this:
http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2010/01/28/ip...s-people-whove/
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post Jan 29 2010, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jan 29 2010, 03:54 PM)
It will sell good or not for what I care. All I care is I want the basic thing that could replace noob netbook. The iPad fail to impress majority of the consumer. 

It's all depend on personal preference. To me, being a non-mac geek, the iPad is the worst tablet define by Apple ever. I can't see any potential since it's using iPhone OS, with no Multitask, no FLASH (Steve still stubborn you know), no usb port, nothing to brag about! The huge screen should offer more, like MacOSX, Multitask, Flash player, and USB Port (it's big, it should have USB port!). I can't seem to think what's the reason there aren't any of these? If you're talking about application, you need to BUY again the same application that already have inside your iPhone. Pointless.

If you're telling me it has potential cause same OS like the iPhone, you're wrong. Seriously.
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it's definitely not a netbook killer
this device got great potential, it just no right now, it depends on how far apple can bring iphone os to
multitasking, flash are still possible

i have flash that, putting flash in, you're taking another high risk yet, security, stability, performance drain.

it's big, but it's thin, no way to fit in USB, from the first day it gonna use iphone OS, then no point to hav USB in it.

you dont need to buy the app again, just transfer.

the form factor is definitely correct, just the software inside need serious tweak. Everyone is feeling down (me either), cuz the software inside is not dedicated to it.

iphone os is better choice than mac os x better of the speed, instant wake up, hardware requirement.....etc the right platform for MID

you can see google did the same, android for big tablet.


Added on January 29, 2010, 5:57 pmit will not a computer replacement, but alternative
it can be your paper replacement, YES, 'P-A-P-E-R'

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