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Hardware Apple iPad Discussion Thread | V1, Everything about iPad

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post Jan 29 2010, 09:43 PM

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come look at the bright side of the iPad..

http://ninezerothree.wordpress.com/2010/01...t-for-5-things/

hehehe smile.gif hoping to get some input from sifus
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post Jan 29 2010, 10:17 PM

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Not really into this iPad myself, gonna keep the Zune HD for longer~
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post Jan 29 2010, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Jan 29 2010, 10:17 PM)
Not really into this iPad myself, gonna keep the Zune HD for longer~
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better keep the zune... seriously....
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post Jan 29 2010, 10:42 PM

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Apparently, someone Down Under share my concerns with the Apple's stupid adoption of the Micro Sim format:-

http://www.hydrapinion.com/index.php/play/...ers-get-screwed

For the TL;DR crowd, here's the gist of it: Apple's choice of using Micro SIM is just another way of providing ways for official telcos of their choice to control who gets to use the data connection on the iPad. Unless you're comfortable with hacking away at your current SIM to make it fit into the Micro SIM slot, you're at the mercy of your chosen provider to provide such a Micro SIM for you to use with the iPad, should you decide to get the Wifi+3G model.

This quoted paragraph from the article says it better:-

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Australia will also miss out on the 3G-enabled iPad when it's launched in March, initially we'll only get the wifi-enabled version. The 3G version will be available in the US, but it seems it uses a 3FF SIM card - known as micro-SIM. Never heard of it? Don't worry, few people had until this week (that Wikipedia page was only created yesterday). By an amazing coincidence, Apple's US telco partner AT&T has heard of micro-SIM cards and will have them ready to roll out for the iPad. Jobs' bragging about selling the iPad as unlocked for pre-paid plans is an cynical ******* act when he knows full well that the iPad won't take a standard SIM card. Only the most rabid Apple fanboy could seriously defend Apple's choice of micro-SIM as future proofing. Using micro-SIM cards is the perfect lock-in which can't be subverted with simple software hack, although the fact iPads are unlocked might force Apple to offer competitive international pricing to foil the flow of grey imports.

The iPad's use of micro-SIM cards is a godsend for the telcos but a pain for users because they can't just slip in the SIM from their phone or USB modem. It gives the telcos absolute control over who uses an iPad over mobile broadband, how they use it and how much they pay. Once again Apple has betrayed loyal customers in favour of the telcos, and monopolistic players such as Telstra will be rubbing their hands together with glee. Apparently you can fit a SIM card into a micro-SIM slot if you take to it with a Stanley knife, but it's not something you'd do lightly (especially if you can't get a micro-SIM to SIM adaptor).


Pretty angry scathing words.
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post Jan 29 2010, 10:50 PM

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I say screw telcos and get the WiFi model if you ever plan on getting one.

This post has been edited by Voxe: Jan 29 2010, 10:50 PM
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post Jan 29 2010, 10:54 PM

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Then the dream of Kindle users of having a pervasive connected-everywhere eBook reader like Kindle in the States will be dashed. The idea of the iPad, especially when it comes to the iBookStore is to be able to buy it, download it and read it anywhere.

On a related note, see why I cry for open environment when it comes to portable mobile "computing" device like this? Locking down the OS, and further clenching that tight fist by employing this hardware-restriction further shows what Apple intended for the iPad: simply a larger locked-down OS iPod Touch.


Added on January 29, 2010, 11:28 pmLooks like more bad news for those thinking of adopting the iPad as their eBook reader:-
iPad could be sold without iBook outside US.

Makes that US iPAd more valuable and/or necessary I guess? But but but, what about that Micro Sim slot debacle?

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Jan 29 2010, 11:28 PM
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post Jan 29 2010, 11:40 PM

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post Jan 29 2010, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(Voxe @ Jan 29 2010, 10:50 PM)
I say screw telcos and get the WiFi model if you ever plan on getting one.
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Yeah, just buy the WiFi version,
I don't think so our telco provider (Maxis/ DiGi/ Celcom/ P1) are smart enough about Micro-SIM to bring iPad here...
Look at Maxis, they act like a dumb when selling iPhone here.
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post Jan 30 2010, 12:08 AM

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this is very typical of Apple products, its either you like it unconditionally, or hate it down to the ground. And Apple do not even bother to give in to the bunch that hate them for valid reasons.

No Flash support means no Flash support, and our phone is still the world's most advanced

No Bluray in our Macs, but our hardware is the most advanced ever crafted

they can give you very flowery reasons as to not include Flash support and Bluray drive, while the reality behind is plain simple, they don't welcome the tech that will compete with them (Flash), and cost them alot (BD drive)

the Apple fanboys will just believe in the flowery creed, while non-Apple users know the Apple business tricks well.

seeing how their immaturity shown in Get-A-Mac ads campaign, even after Win7 they still reuse the tactics against Vista

seeing Apple intervention in Google Android multitouch codes, shows that Apple isn't made of saints either. IMO they are more evil than Microsoft

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post Jan 30 2010, 12:15 AM

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i heard that IPAD have No flash => how to browse Facebook and playing game = = !!!

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post Jan 30 2010, 12:15 AM

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Answer is cannot.
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post Jan 30 2010, 12:17 AM

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The reason why Apple denies Flash and BD is because of competition. Flash-based websites like Hulu allows FREE watching of movies and TV shows, Apple wouldn't want that to compete with the iTunes ecosystem. BD's excuse, instead of the skimpy "bag of hurt" excuse, ties in with the fact that iTunes itself is pushing their own brand of HD movies, allowing BD movie playback will seriously put a dent in their own sales of HD videos from iTunes. All the nonsense on instability, proprietary or "bags of hurts" are just the reality distortion field playing tricks on your common sense.

It looks like Apple Malaysia has updated their website to include the iPad on the front page. Click it brings it to this link:-

http://www.apple.com/asia/ipad/features/

and surprise, surprise! No iBooks for Asian iPads! Open back this link:-

http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/

which leads to the US Apple homepage, see that little footnote at the bottom? It says "iBooks is available only in the U.S." So, one feature/function crippled. Add the Micro Sim woes, that's two. In the end, isn't all these crippling of features makes the iPad becomes more and more like a bigger iPod Touch? rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 30 2010, 12:21 AM

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can the Asians download the iBook from App Store after they brought the iPad home?
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post Jan 30 2010, 12:21 AM

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Aaaand to add salt to the already gaping wound, Apple lied to you.

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/29/ipad-p...-flash-content/

The live demo Steve did displays gaping holes where Flash contents is supposed to be, but in their promotional video, everything looks complete, even where the Flash contents are supposed to be. Lies or Reality Distortion Field at its best? rclxms.gif


Added on January 30, 2010, 12:23 am
QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jan 30 2010, 12:21 AM)
can the Asians download the iBook from App Store after they brought the iPad home?
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I suspect it's gonna be a firmware-specific feature. iPads from the States will be loaded with firmwares with iBooks available in it, while the Asian iPads will have it removed. You wont even be able to download the iBook app, since it is part of the specific firmware tailored to specific regions. US only, folks! shakehead.gif

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post Jan 30 2010, 12:24 AM

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They out the IPAD because for the IBOOK right ?
Asia Ver cannot support IBOOK that mean IPAD = useless = = !
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post Jan 30 2010, 12:26 AM

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Apparently the iPad is more than just an eBook reader. It is supposed to be Apple's answer to the netbook in tablet form. Funny how netbooks can handle Flash contents on their hardware, while Apple surreptitiously kept themselves mum on that.
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post Jan 30 2010, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(Only_Human @ Jan 29 2010, 07:56 PM)

why Malaysia rental price more cheap than Singapore ?
i think Singapore price should be low than Malaysia right ?

Sorry for noob , i havent been buying Apple product before ~
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There is a 7% GST in singapore, thus the higher price.
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post Jan 30 2010, 12:28 AM

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lol... imagine how would the sales from Machines explain the feature of iPad to customers, one day I should go in and ask too rclxms.gif

I would ask "why should I buy this thing, what makes it soooo awesoome"

Apple is indeed the world's most ego-centric company whistling.gif
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post Jan 30 2010, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jan 30 2010, 12:28 AM)
lol... imagine how would the sales from Machines explain the feature of iPad to customers, one day I should go in and ask too rclxms.gif

I would ask "why should I buy this thing, what makes it soooo awesoome"

Apple is indeed the world's most ego-centric company whistling.gif
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Sure they will convince you with usual Apple terms, "casual experience", "hassle-free", "pick-n-play".
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post Jan 30 2010, 12:36 AM

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in regard to the "chopped" promo video
here is what fanboys would answer

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Perhaps Apple was worked with the New York Times and other major sites for custom iPad versions of their sites that use an alternative to flash such as HTML5.


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Eh... with HTML 5 coming and H.264 video, there won't be much point to Flash in the future. So I'm okay if they keep it standards based.


http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=856483


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