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English Clubs Arsenal Street Talk, 01/2 00:00 ARS v MU | FT: AST 0-0 ARS

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post Jan 10 2010, 06:42 PM

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Saying Everton employed anti football tactics is a classic case of sour grapes. If playing a closing down and pressing game is anti football, then what do you expect Everton to do? Just let us waltz through and strut our stuff? Sometimes you just have to acknowledge the fact that at times opponents can outplay you.

As for Peter Walton he had a great game. Many tackles from Everton, Fellaini in particular were hard but fair. We only have ourselves to blame on losing the ball and even giving the opportunity to the Everton players to even attempt a tackle with our lads taking a century to decide what to do after receiving the ball.

Many complaint bout the snow but the snow didn't stop Everton from bringing their work rate and desire to win the game did it? Lets face it our players didn't even look like they wanted to play and given the chance would have preferred to sit at home and sip a hot cup of cocoa by the fireplace. At times I found the body languge of the players shocking to say the least.

The first goal was a total fluke and our equaliser came only after the frustrations and jeers from the crowd were increasing in decibels towards the final whistle did they decide to exert themselves a little in the last 10 and as someone mentioned, Fergie time. Everton would have been slaughtered had the lads decided to turn up from the off.

Very disappointed with the result, appalled with the performance but relieved with a point.

I feel for the groundspeople and everyone else who worked so hard to make the game happen only to witness a performance like that. A weeks wages should be deducted from the players and given to them as compensation IMO.
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i seriously think that almunia is our main problem. a liability to the team. how many clean sheet did almunia had this season?? he played 14 games and he only got 4 clean sheet, while mannone played 8 games and got 3 clean sheets. Mannone is not the most experience keeper in the PL. if we can solve our goal keeping issue we wont be leaking so many goals. a league is won by the least no of goal conceded.
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post Jan 10 2010, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Jan 10 2010, 06:42 PM)
Saying Everton employed anti football tactics is a classic case of sour grapes. If playing a closing down and pressing game is anti football, then what do you expect Everton to do? Just let us waltz through and strut our stuff? Sometimes you just have to acknowledge the fact that at times opponents can outplay you.

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I din say only Everton employed anti-football tactics, please read clearly ok? Im saying both of the team did the same thing, and it's not a good football display either...Why what u said this some kinda good spirit? This gotta be the most eye soring football match I've ever seen and the referees didn't even do anything about it. And I don't think Cesc/Song can be some kinda savior too in this kinda atmosphere like everyone been missing about.

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QUOTE(ProbMan @ Jan 10 2010, 07:45 PM)
I din say only Everton employed anti-football tactics, please read clearly ok? Im saying both of the team did the same thing, and it's not a good football display either...Why what u said this some kinda good spirit? This gotta be the most eye soring football match I've ever seen and the referees didn't even do anything about it. And I don't think Cesc/Song can be some kinda savior too in this kinda atmosphere like everyone been missing about.
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Oh so I suppose the weather and conditions isn't a factor then in your most "eye soring" football match rolleyes.gif Hoping for a good football match or display in that sort of conditions is wishful thinking at best. doh.gif The referee did his best in letting the game flow and I found that most of the tackles were hard but fair. The referee had a very good game in my book.
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post Jan 10 2010, 08:23 PM

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The referee has no good game in my book tho...
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post Jan 10 2010, 08:26 PM

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the ref suck in the 1st half. we had a couple of shouts from penalty but falls on deaf ears. anyway, he did up his game and call a more balanced game towards the end tho.

this is classic arsenal. we need a couple of games to get back on track because injury/interlull hit us at our core. clearly Denilson/Ramsey/Diaby aren't as dynamic as Cesc/Song/Diaby or cesc/song/denilson. we missed Song so much yesterday. The 1st and 2nd goal could've been prevented had we had a proper DM in place. Song would've cut off Pienaar by midfield. For the first goal, i thought someone should've track the runner, most of the time this was Song's responsibility.

Anyway, the game was mind blowing. 1 minute we were attacking, the next was Everton. We controlled the game towards the end n got overconfident and were exposed. BUT the lads didn't give up. they continue on and got the point.

I'm with AW in this... it's a point GAINED rather than points dropped.

Diaby was the better player last nite. As much as i hate him before, i'm beginning to like him now. good ball holding, better positioning and tackles, just need to work on his distribution a bit more and he'll be awesome.

I hope Cameroon out of ANC soon. we need Song back a.s.a.p.

Cesc will be back next week rite?
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QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Jan 10 2010, 03:34 PM)
i dun understand man utd gt 6 minutes added time....while nothing special happend during the 90 minutes..swt
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i think ref dun wan fergie bising after match..but yet S.A.F blame ref jugak.. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(super messi @ Jan 10 2010, 07:16 PM)
i seriously think that almunia is our main problem. a liability to the team. how many clean sheet did almunia had this season?? he played 14 games and he only got 4 clean sheet, while mannone played 8 games and got 3 clean sheets. Mannone is not the most experience keeper in the PL. if we can solve our goal keeping issue we wont be leaking so many goals. a league is won by the least no of goal conceded.
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man...super messi..i've read your previous post..
you really4 want almunia to go dosnt you..find a replacement first..

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post Jan 10 2010, 08:27 PM

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Almunia

Sagna - Gallas - Vermalean - Traore

Nasri - Ashravin -Diaby

Rosicky - Eduardo - Vela

Anyone ever think of putting Ashravin at midfield playing behind Eduardo?

Well of course it may seems too attack minded but since Diaby talked to AW about Song's role,perhaps he can make it at Song's role?

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post Jan 10 2010, 08:33 PM

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Sometimes I was wondering izzit Diaby improving or actually the other teammates performance deteriorating?
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post Jan 10 2010, 08:42 PM

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i'm with Arseblogger on Arshavin. he is not a CF.. we know that. he is better deployed on the flanks or LW/RW. this is where we can use his pace and intelligence to provide and shoots.

And i agree that Almunia gave me the scares yesterday. AW really need to look hard at GK position and maybe give Fabianski a couple of runs.
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When I said "played in good spirit", I meant everyone gave us good as they got.

Everyone played hard but fair. Even our lads made some good challenges here and there. Samir Nasri was surprisingly good in the tackle as well. And I don't recall any incident of players squaring up to each other, or any argy bargies, handbags, headbutts, etc etc.

That's what is meant "in good spirits". If you hate to see good, solid tackles, or aggressive play, I suggest you watch ping pong.

Some examples....
Good spirit = Last night
Bad spirit = Anytime we play Hull or Man Utd during the Keane-Vieira days.
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QUOTE(super messi @ Jan 10 2010, 07:16 PM)
i seriously think that almunia is our main problem. a liability to the team. how many clean sheet did almunia had this season?? he played 14 games and he only got 4 clean sheet, while mannone played 8 games and got 3 clean sheets. Mannone is not the most experience keeper in the PL. if we can solve our goal keeping issue we wont be leaking so many goals. a league is won by the least no of goal conceded.
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Something wrong is going with Manny. I believe we can all agree that while he's not a world class goalkeeper (if he were he'd be pushing for place in the Spanish NT), he is capable of being a decent and dependable goalie. Last season he was solid and consistent, but somehow this season he hasn't really instilled faith in his defenders and also us fans.

I'm not sure whether there are any good replacements available in the market, and also whether Arsene will consider dropping him in the short future. There has been calls for Luk to take the number 1 jersey although I must say I am a bit sceptical about that. Luk has shown his potential in previous seasons during cup games but last season when put to the test in the league he was pretty shaky.

The kids on the other hand will not be pushing for a spot so soon. The Don will need games to convince everybody as he also tends to flaps at crosses like Manny, while Woj hasn't had any experience in top flight football.

QUOTE(ProbMan @ Jan 10 2010, 08:33 PM)
Sometimes I was wondering izzit Diaby improving or actually the other teammates performance deteriorating?
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Diaby is improving, like how Denilson and Song before him did. Don't overlook what Abou has done over the summer... he deserves all the credit.
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QUOTE(leymar7 @ Jan 10 2010, 09:26 PM)
i think ref dun wan fergie bising after match..but yet S.A.F blame ref jugak.. rclxms.gif
man...super messi..i've read your previous post..
you really4 want almunia to go dosnt you..find a replacement first..
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sorry for sounding so bad asking him to go...but this is our chance to win the league, there is no good and available gk in january.
we should give fabianski a chance, sometimes his judgement is bad but everybody need to be given a chance to proof themselves. almunia has had a lot of chance but he didn't proof anything to justify his starting position
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Diaby was superb yesterday

Sure did Rosicky lost the ball which lead to Cahill Piennar counter attack but he should come out from his position as soon as possible to close as much as possible any angle

what the heck?

Hope AW sign another striker - we will in the future lose one or two striker due to injury
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I agree that Almunia didn't perform well of late, but I don't agree that he be released. Fabianski should take his position just to remind almunia of his place.
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maybe we should give Vito another run. He has been superb considering his young age -
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QUOTE(ncool15 @ Jan 10 2010, 08:55 AM)
ARSENAL vs EVERTON [ 2 - 2 ]
1st Half-Hghlights : Rapidshare / Mediafire

2nd Half-Highlights : Rapidshare / Mediafire

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post Jan 11 2010, 05:38 AM

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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Jan 10 2010, 09:10 PM)
When I said "played in good spirit", I meant everyone gave us good as they got.

Everyone played hard but fair. Even our lads made some good challenges here and there. Samir Nasri was surprisingly good in the tackle as well. And I don't recall any incident of players squaring up to each other, or any argy bargies, handbags, headbutts, etc etc.

That's what is meant "in good spirits". If you hate to see good, solid tackles, or aggressive play, I suggest you watch ping pong.

Some examples....
Good spirit = Last night
Bad spirit = Anytime we play Hull or Man Utd during the Keane-Vieira days.
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No incident of fighting doesn't necessary mean the match is a very good match, and maybe for your standard it is...All I want to stress here about the match it's that a couple of incidents that might have at least deserved a warning by referee.

QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jan 10 2010, 09:43 PM)
Diaby is improving, like how Denilson and Song before him did. Don't overlook what Abou has done over the summer... he deserves all the credit.
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Actually I agree Denilson is improving, Song is the most consistent after improvised...And Diaby is just his usual self.
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QUOTE(ProbMan @ Jan 11 2010, 05:38 AM)
Actually I agree Denilson is improving, Song is the most consistent after improvised...And Diaby is just his pre-fracture usual self.
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    “I don’t remember what happened. I was just running with the ball and I felt a pain in my side. I couldn’t run or stop the ball, but I feel okay now,” he highlighted” Denilson said.

    “I am going to have a scan and then I will know how long I will be injured, but I think I will be ready for Sunday (at Bolton).”

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5851939,00.html

Ok... Hm... scans... hopefully Denilson will be alright otherwise we'd really be short of hands or rather legs in midfield.

An interesting thing to ponder: Aren't we glad to have Arsene instead of uncle Harry as the gaffer?
http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/2010/01/h...smouths-demise/
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post Jan 11 2010, 10:42 AM

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