^is it a wide screen or normal 4:3?
with 720p support also?

you say have to look for it for months, is this model phased-out already? damn, wish hdtv price will come down quicker.

Yeah - it's pretty much discontinued. Philips has a new range out now with Pixel Plus 2 starting from 34" but without the 1080i capability and retailing for RM 3900. Weird - I guess they realised they were giving too many capabilities with the old line. Judging from how fast prices are going, I think it's viable that 32" and above hdtv LCD screens will be affordable in the next 2 years or so...till then, it's CRT, lol!

ya, i too hope can afford to get a widescreen hdtv. running 720p on 4:3 screen will mean a black border on top and bottom. so sad that no demand for widescreen in malaysia, i see j-drama even their pc monitor is wide screen.

There is demand but there is no supply.  All Malaysian TV comes in 4:3 ratio except the newer DLP and LCD TV.  Those are too expensive anyway.  That is why i bought the Skyworth 16:9 crt HDTV because its widescreen.

There is demand but there is no supply.  All Malaysian TV comes in 4:3 ratio except the newer DLP and LCD TV.  Those are too expensive anyway.  That is why i bought the Skyworth 16:9 crt HDTV because its widescreen.

is there really any demand? only the enthusiast in AV would know about wide screen. the average joe only know that tv is 4:3. btw, your widescreen tv, it's china brand izzit? how the quality compare to like sony or philips?

btw Lord_Ashe, today i see some philips tv with the HDTV (or only HD, not sure) Monitor printed on the front. is this the same as yours or EDTV in disguise?

both also looks about the same, i couldn't tell
but the one i see don't have rgb input, guess this is the model without Pixel Plus 2.
btw, the second link, is this the same model as yours? i read th pdf file, it only support 480p and 1080i. from philips website there's only 3 model with HD capabilities, and all 3 only have 480p and 1080i.



the tv, does the display look almost similiar with pc monitor? i mean without the interlace line like normal tv?

is there really any demand? only the enthusiast in AV would know about wide screen. the average joe only know that tv is 4:3. btw, your widescreen tv, it's china brand izzit? how the quality compare to like sony or philips?

Hehe, both look the same because of the tendency for retailers to hook up the dinkiest (and I mean stupidest) kind of composite connection to "show off" the TV, with brightness and other settings tuned up way high...

You're right - I forgot to mention that strangely enough only my model (which has been discontinued, I guess) has support for 480p, 720p and 1080i. I couldn't find a similar PDF but it's stated on the manual. Hmm... I need to do a bit more testing, I think.

As for no interlace line - I played a bit of King Kong yesterday, and that looked pretty amazing for a  CRT. Soul Calibur 2(ori) also looked extra crisp but that was at 480p. I'll need to see if I can push it higher...

Yes, its china brand Skyworth.  Quality wise to me are more or less the same.

Basically CRT HDTV displays are still the highest quality display over any other format (DLP, Plasma, LCD, LCoS). However in the xbox 360's case, all games natively support 720p but unfortunately CRT televisions do not support 720p native. Instead they upscale everything to 1080i in which loss can occur. So if you want to display games in their native resolution, going to Plasma or LCD is the way to go.

However from a technical standpoint, there is one CRT that kind of words around the technical jargon and can do 720p native - the JVC 34" widescreen HDTV. Instead of converting all signals to 1080i, it actually converts signals to 1500i which is a few extra lines on top of 1440i resolution. 1440i is the same as 720p. Since the picture is interlaced (have the picture is shown every other time) across 1440 lines (720 on the first, 720 on the second), it can actually show 720p received signals accurately without compromising quality because the resolution is exactly divisible by 2.

So, to sum it up, unless you have a 1500i CRT TV (JVC is the only one that currently does this), then you will not be getting the most out of your picture, no matter the cable

Lord_Ashe, are you sure your tv support 720p? i was browsing xbox-scene when i stumble on this article

CRT televisions do not support 720p native. Instead they upscale everything to 1080i in which loss can occur. So if you want to display games in their native resolution, going to Plasma or LCD is the way to go.

according to the article:

meaning it can display 720p, but at some loss of line, unless the tv support 1440i/1500i (which is double of 720p line). 1080 if divided 2 will only be 540 lines.

Wow that really sounds like a bargain!

After going around for months I finally found one of the few remaining Philips 29" Pixel Plus 2 CRT sets. Snagged it for RM 2400 and am happily gawking at my DVDs and xbox! Even Astro looks nicer, lol.

It doesn't have 1080p, but 1080i support for HDTV will have to be good enough for an average Joe like me...