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Project Lian Li PC-A71F, pc name: Mognet
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wow...seems like an interesting mod...goodluck
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have u ordered the film?
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looks very interesting. Hopufully you could start the project.
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woahhhh...thats expensive...
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 19 2009, 08:30 AM) ok i asked 3dfx and they said it will cost 300-500 just to laser cut a hole for my case. u askin laser cutting for arcylic or for ur case?i whink if for case yeah for sure it will be expensive coz need to cut secc/alu..but if jus a hole for 300-500 Anyone know if laser cut is cheaper?   |
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Nov 19 2009, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 19 2009, 01:15 PM) Pc alumnium side panel to cut so can put in an acrylic window  From what i read if do it with dremel will have sharp corners which i don't like.  |
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Nov 19 2009, 11:06 PM
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hahaha...true2...use the kikir bro...for 300~500 better u get urself a dremel n some tools which maybe cost around 300~400 depending on the brands...plus u get the excitement of modding for urself...n the bragging rights too...
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QUOTE(Susaiput @ Nov 19 2009, 11:06 PM) hahaha...true2...use the kikir bro...for 300~500 better u get urself a dremel n some tools which maybe cost around 300~400 depending on the brands...plus u get the excitement of modding for urself...n the bragging rights too... Depend on skill....if u not confident...ur modding will turn out bad dream....  Buy dremel + no skill = poor result Pay pro modder = good result |
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Nov 19 2009, 11:56 PM
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true2...but then again paying somene is only half the fun of DIY IMO...plus a lil bit of practice can go a long way...after all its only a blowole...
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Nov 20 2009, 11:54 AM
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Nov 20 2009, 02:58 PM
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try asking niclasteoh if im not mistaken he provided some modding services n based on the pictures all of them are quite clean cut...
a better looking?hmm...dat depends on ur creativity i guess...but then again it may need some DIY tho...try surfing the net for some ideas...some ppls use steel bracket that they riveted n slide the acrylic panel...some put alu mesh with the acrylic... about ur WC setup...it all depends really... - how much r u using ur pc and gc - r u a harcore gamer? - will u be OC-ing ur gc and cpu? - how much r u willing to spend think about it n make ur decision according ur needs... |
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ermm...do u included the shipping fees?
i think plus shipping fees it will cost u around 500 more...im not sure... tubing i think normally around 5-6 feet...try asking clawhammer as he is more experience in this area... isnt the 420 quite big?im not sure it can fit ur case tho...can it?try measure n see first...or if not...u can always go dual loop... owh...based on the pic i think can... about niclasteoh...yes he is in sarawak...the shipping will cost u some money...but i think he does laser cutting...im not sure...try check with him... or u could try ask some forumer whos willing to mod for u...im sure there's some1 with the right price... This post has been edited by Susaiput: Nov 20 2009, 05:20 PM |
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woah...where ur gonna get the vinyl?
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owh...ok2...
but aint it gonna seem to be out of place?i mean...ur planning to put the film on ur case...n ur side panel is colourful?hmmm...dun think its gonna fit bro... btw...have u ordered the film?becoz if u havent i'd like some pls... This post has been edited by Susaiput: Nov 20 2009, 09:29 PM |
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owh ok...take ur time n ill take mine...need to rethink about my whole mod it seems...if im going to add the film that is...
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Nov 25 2009, 01:56 PM
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hmmm..the setuo altho seems quite simple...but if u think about it can prove quite a hassle...first of all...where to put the reservoir,pump n radiator lol?outside?but where?lying about?
plus IMO the casing got loads of space...u can put the pump n res inside without much diff...y bother burdening urself by putting it outside? just my 2 cents.. |
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Nov 25 2009, 04:59 PM
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I don't think your casing would fit a quad rad and even if it does, it would be a very very tight fit
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Nov 25 2009, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 20 2009, 11:54 AM) Well if you guys think it can be done good without laser i am willing to consider. Any thoughts though about the window mode? i'd say get a better fan for the rads.. slipstreams My old case just had the acrylic riveted into the aluminium from the outside of the side panel... or is there a better looking way of adding the window? I just want a simple looking square acrylic window with thick Ac Ryan acrylic. This is my pc specs CPU: Intel I7 920 Motherboard: P6T Deluxe V2 Memory: 3 sticks of 2gb Corsair Dominator DDR3 Casing: Lian Li PC-A71F This was the suggested package offered to me to resemble this other project http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1162196 1 x Swiftech Apogee XT LGA1366 & LGA1156 1 x aquagraFX for GTX 285 (G200b) 1 x Swiftech MCP655 1 x Swiftech 3 x 120mm radiator 3 x Scythe 120mm SlipStream SY1225SL12SH - 110 CFM 1 x EK-Multioption RES 250 rev.2 reservoir 12 x Bitspower Compression fittings 1/2" 3/4" 8 x Bitspower 45 degree 4 x Bitspower 90 degree rotaries 6 feet Feser UV White/Black 1/2in. ID 3/4in. OD tubing 1 x Logisys 2 x 30cm UV CCFL 1 x Bitspower Black Freezer AIX58NS - for Asus P6T/P6T V2 Deluxe 1 x Bitspower MOSII and MOS III Total = RM3xxx This is the new modified package i made after removing the motherboard chipset and mosfet cooling: 1 x Swiftech Apogee XT LGA1366 & LGA1156 1 x aquagraFX for GTX 285 (G200b) 1 x Swiftech MCP655 1 x Swiftech 3 x 120mm radiator 3 x Scythe 120mm SlipStream SY1225SL12SH - 110 CFM 1 x EK-Multioption RES 250 rev.2 reservoir 8 x Bitspower Compression fittings 1/2" 3/4" 4 x Bitspower 45 degree 4 x Bitspower 90 degree rotaries 6 feet Feser UV White/Black 1/2in. ID 3/4in. OD tubing 1 x Logisys 2 x 30cm UV CCFL Total = RM2xxx I removed the motherboard chipset and mosfet water cooler parts because i am anticipating upgrading to a better motherboard next year once USB3 and SATA 6GBs all finally become mainstream. So no point investing in a water block specific for the Asus P6T Deluxe V2 yes? Any comments regarding this setup? And is water cooling really necessary for my Nvidia 285 graphics card or can i remove that from my setup to cut costs? performs bad on rads, their static pressure is weak .. go for the S-Flexs (80cfm+) or 38mm fans |
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Nov 25 2009, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 25 2009, 06:23 PM) I don't think your casing would fit a quad rad and even if it does, it would be a very very tight fit can fit one You won't be happy with that either... my case actually can fit a 480 on top but it'll cover the whole top part, but a 360 will do for a 285 and an i7 (paired with a good fan).. and if u put some mesh on top of the rad to cover it (aluminium), it'll look sexy  anything can be done if ur creative enough =) (except fitting those 9 fan radiators lol) |
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Nov 25 2009, 09:16 PM
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of coz...if not a simple nudge can turn to disaster...after all ur playing with water n electric lol...
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 25 2009, 08:31 PM) I took some pictures of my case (low res :[ ) If there are no screw holes, you will have to drill some. Even a TJ07 suffers the same issue I'll try upload But looking at it, there doesn't seem to be a place to attach the radiator at the top. Do i need to drill hole or something?  One case that I know of that is ready for top mount radiator is the CM HAF932. Nways, looks like its gonna be a good mod. Cant wait for more progress  |
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 25 2009, 08:31 PM) I took some pictures of my case (low res :[ ) yep.. i had to cut and drill mine, remember if ur cutting with dremel/rotaratory tools, always cut 0.5cm away then the original measurement cause u will need to file it (they dont produce sharp cuts, instead wavy ones).. I'll try upload But looking at it, there doesn't seem to be a place to attach the radiator at the top. Do i need to drill hole or something? QUOTE(tesla_rage @ Nov 25 2009, 10:07 PM) If there are no screw holes, you will have to drill some. Even a TJ07 suffers the same issue the obsidian 800D got pre-drilled screw holes for 360 rad.. not sure what rads can fit, maybe standard ones can but the old thermochill which have a bigger gap between the screws might not be able to fit..One case that I know of that is ready for top mount radiator is the CM HAF932. Nways, looks like its gonna be a good mod. Cant wait for more progress |
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go ask reiben...he sure free after spm...XD
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 25 2009, 11:12 PM) Can anyone help me make a window mode like this plz Why not a Swiftech triple rad (120mmx3)? @Reiben: This is the new package i am looking at. 140cm kaze Scythe 1200RPM fans. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1231435# I am unsure about the radiator. Should i get HW Labs Black Ice SR1 480 Carbon Black - QUAD 120mm http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/hwlablicesr13.html OR HW Labs Black Ice SR1 360 Carbon Black - Triple 120mm http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/hwlablicesr12.html OR HW Labs Black Ice GT Xtreme 420 - Black - Triple 140mm http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/hwlablicegtx4.html ? |
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 25 2009, 11:12 PM) Can anyone help me make a window mode like this plz get a feser 360 rofl.. @Reiben: This is the new package i am looking at. 140cm kaze Scythe 1200RPM fans. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1231435# I am unsure about the radiator. Should i get HW Labs Black Ice SR1 480 Carbon Black - QUAD 120mm http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/hwlablicesr13.html OR HW Labs Black Ice SR1 360 Carbon Black - Triple 120mm http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/hwlablicesr12.html OR HW Labs Black Ice GT Xtreme 420 - Black - Triple 140mm http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/hwlablicegtx4.html ? the SR1 360 should be good edi and i can cut ur side panel if u want me too later (FOC ^^) but my skills are not perfect yet ..as for 420 rads.. u really need a big case to fit that even on top but its not impossible though =).. QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 25 2009, 11:38 PM) Reiben, harlp !! QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 25 2009, 11:53 PM) Cauz i heard although it's best bang for bucks for it's performance, it's not the best for performance. Also it is old model isn't it? Not to say it's bad but there are some newer models out with thinner fins benchmark dekat2 je to be honest.. depends on what fan u using.. the SR1/Feser360 works best with 1200RPM fans compared to the GTX360, while the GTX360 beat all of the rads Also the build quality is not as good solid as the HW Labs one. I'm picky  Added on November 26, 2009, 12:14 am Claw i was looking again at your project http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1162196  the casing has the same chasis at the top. Can yours fit a 420  3x140 radiator? Any comment. I found a benchmark roundup for the different radiators. http://skinneelabs.com/Radiators/TripleV2/Triples-V2.html if paired with a powerfull fan (2000+RPM) .. the Swiftech MC-320 is the best for price/performance ratio.. i suggest to u get a fan that runs quite and put them in a push/pull config .. conclusion = grab the HWlabs 360.. if not enough $$, the Swiftech 320 should do =) This post has been edited by reiben05: Nov 27 2009, 11:11 PM |
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woww.. just now i read another WC worklog, didn't know that Moogle Stiltzkin gonna start the project..
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u can get the carriage from bombman/karom..
i know they sell the lian li wheels sorry* my bad This post has been edited by reiben05: Nov 29 2009, 01:06 AM |
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http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/produ...=30&ss_index=14
i think karom/bombman sell these types.. not the one that u gave in the link |
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You will need a sketch to figure out what you need
Stupid sketch like this one is good enough http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30187979 Once you come up with one, then its easier for us to help. But definitely your loop will be about the same as mine. 5 meters of tubing should be just nice. That tube is RM20/feet woah  You will need to plan out where you want to put your pump and radiator This post has been edited by tesla_rage: Nov 30 2009, 04:25 PM |
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wut videocard r u planning to use? studyin from overseas watercooling setup most of them who went for cpu and gpu has 2 radiator, or a monsta radiator which is twice the thickness.
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 1 2009, 08:52 AM) The ccfl twin lights put at the top parallel. anyway what size of the tubing you would like to go then? clawhammer tubing is 1/2". Radiator inside case at the top. Not quite sure how to secure it there cauz i'm not an expert. Also need to make a hole on the top of the case to add in a AC Ryan stripe cover for some airflow for the 3 radiator fans. The reservoir just use the EK 250 reservoir put inside the case between the motherboard tray and the hard drive cage. Pump would be inside the case. Not sure if put it on case floor or should attach it somehow to the drive cage. hm.... Ok i will switch to 5 meter, thanks for advise. Just wish i knew more about compression and rotary fittings cause i know squat. If get wrong size g_g; |
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 1 2009, 06:36 PM) 5 meters of Tygon R3603 1/2in. ID 3/4in. OD Laboratory Tubing # AAC00038 Yeap its the same as the one clawhammer is using.http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ty1id3odlatu.html |
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the compression fitting you should go is the same size like your tubing. refer by here:
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that u need to ask clawhammer himself lol.. i think he has like 8x rotaratory 45° fittings and 4x rotaratory 90° fittings
i only got 4 of each..( 4x 90° and 4x 45°) as for compression fittings size.. it depends on the tubes u use.. thats all , if ur using 1/2"ID 3/4"OD fittings, then u'll need 1/2"ID 3/'4OD compression fittings (i prefer silver, clawhammers one are black but doesnt matter) same for 7/16"ID, 5/8"OD tubes.. u'll need the fittings with the same size.. if ur going black tubes.. dont bother using UV coolant.. u wont see it anyway lolz.. unless ur gonna use a mix of transparent tubing + black ones.. |
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o yeah bro.. did u state ur budget for WC'ing parts yet?
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any G1/4 will suit yours compression fitting size of 1/2 - 3/4. For every 90/45 degree rotaries you need compression fittings. 8 90 or 45 degrees mixed.
1. Swiftech MCP655 12v DC Pump - with Speed Controller - do not need any compression fitting or 90/45 degree unless you want to mod it using Bitspower mod kit & mod top. 2. Swiftech Apogee XT CPU Waterblock - a pair of compression fittings and 2 x 45 degree rotaries here. 3. Aqua Computer aquagraFX for GTX 285 (G200b) G1/4. You are not going for sLI? so need only a pair of compression fittings here and 2 x 45 @ 90 degree rotaries here. 4. EK Waterblocks EK-Multioption RES 250 rev.2 - you need another a pair of compression fittings and 2 x 45 @ 90 degree rotaries here. 5. 7 feet x Tygon R3603 1/2in. ID 3/4in. OD Laboratory Tubing # AAC00038 - this one no need compression fittings / 45 & 90 degree rotaries. hope this help you to get a conclusion. |
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thats a tight budget actually
Swiftech Apogee XT CPU WB - RM400 Swiftech MCP655 - RM 360 EK MultiRes 250 V2 - RM 240 AquaGrafx GTX 285 G200B GFX WB - RM 490 5x Bitspower 1/2"ID 3/4"OD Compression fittings [black] [2 per pair] - RM 300 6x 45 Bitspower Rotaratory 1/2"ID 3/4"OD -RM 300 4x 90 Bitspower Rotaratory 1/2"ID 3/4"OD -RM 200 10ft Tygon Tubing 1/2"ID 3/4"OD Transparent -RM 190 Total : RM 2480 not included fans and radiator yet.. |
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errrrrr....woww...sounds complicated...by the way ts...y do u need the mod top n the mod kit?as far as i noe...they dun contribute to performance at all...just the looks...
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i suggest u rethink the hydra board, if u thinkin of pairing ati and nvidia u might as well scrap the hydra idea cause the latest demo they show and list the mixed card has 3 compatible games on it.....
my bad its more like 5 games lol ; ; http://vr-zone.com/forums/510362/msi-big-b...ility-list.html This post has been edited by kevink82: Dec 3 2009, 11:47 AM |
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 3 2009, 12:10 PM) Hydra also has game support limitation? Wow i didn't know this i already post the answer about feser vs water. if you're using distilled water, you need to flush whenever you think it's a necessary for you to do that. BTW it's a still cheap source that you can pick up for your rig build. But i not recommend the distilled water for newbie setup. Mistake is always happen. ouch.What if fit 2 nvidia cards together, will there be any such restrictions? Or is it only applicable to cross brand cards? I'm now thinking if i should drop using Feser and just use distilled. I posted my question over in a more appropriate thread for it http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1126151/+20 And can someone advise me regarding water cooling maintenance? Why do i keep seeing the word flushing involved? Do i have to drain the water from the system every few months for total replacement? Or can i just replace as the water lessens? By using feser one liquid, you just need to top up if you see any dehydration happen in times to come. It gives you two years or maybe tilt before you can see any drop of performance, by that time you need to flush it and replace by using a new one. |
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u can either use a t-line
to flush/topup fluid.. or just do it the manual way haha.. take a bucket.. open all our WC stuffs and walah ... open all the fittings inside it..example of a T-Line: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...ling_T-Line.JPG u have to dissamble ur system btw.. nothing in WC is easy to on ur pump.. take ur 24 pin Mobo PSU cable and short the green wire and a black one (any black one will do).. i use a pair of compasses for it so i just can stick it into it and let the pump bleed for 2-24 hours instead of holding it, usually i do 4-6hours..Added on December 3, 2009, 7:44 pm QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 3 2009, 09:57 AM) Thx kInOzAwA and Reiben. I sorta understand a bit. u can fit both a 45 and 90 degree a block depends on how many inlet/outlet it has.. and u have to put a compression fittings on top of it.. So let me get this straight, for radiator, waterblocks, reservoir and pump there is an inlet and outlet port. Each port should have compression fittings also fixed with either a 45 or a 90 degree rotary each? So cpu block would have 1 compression and 1 rotary (either the 45 or the 90?) I hope i got this right Just as i suspected, i need to now get a modified pump mod top Do you reckon the bits power mod is good or is it too gaudy? Or should i get the EK mod for the pum, or the plain and simple sidewidner mod that adds the g1/4 ports?Modified MCP655 pump with the G1/4 port http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/sicumclad5wi.html Bitspower Gaudy mod add on http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bid5mcmodkit.html EK power plain mod add on http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ekwaekxforla.html @kInOzAwA : No point using SLI for me until Hydra chip motherboards start coming out. It's more efficient at pairing graphics cards to get the most benefit for combined FPS increase, also you don't need graphics card connectors, and can use different models and brands. i'll upload some pictures to make u understand better i agree with u with the hydra thingy.. the drivers haven't mature yet.. buying the board now is like suicide unless ur testing it for fun (or have shitloads of money to waste , but i rather waste it on WC haha)This post has been edited by reiben05: Dec 3 2009, 07:44 PM |
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if you are aquarium technology savvy it's a bit easy to assemble all these thing. More or less it's still have the same method like you assemble the canister pump like eheim to your aquarium setup.. it's still easy...
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lol.. i think the bitspower top can take an inlet from the top.. or maybe im wrong, but it has 2 inlets and 2 outlets compared to other D5 vario.. never tried it before thou
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u mean buying another res for the fillport??
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i suggest u to get a bay reservoir instead.. 5"25inch from EK/Bitspower [transparent] filling it is easy and theres 4 threads on it
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i think it will be hard to make top bit a fill port if by "top bit" u mean the bit with the little screw on it as u have to tighten it to make it a close loop system?
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just buy from local
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the mod for the pump looks good
why dont u do it urself?? mount a 360 rad on top is easy especially if u have a huge ass case like the PC-A71F..Added on December 4, 2009, 12:42 pmand u can always check if the block is compatible with what revision on the website ^^ This post has been edited by reiben05: Dec 4 2009, 12:42 PM |
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wuiyoh...tasty mod for the pump...wonder if i can get it done...never do tapping br...
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if u read it carefully it says tuniq tx3 win for load temp which is wut u want, no one cares bout idle temp pretty much ; ;
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 4 2009, 03:20 PM) Ok for thermal paste the results say Noctua NT-H1 is the best lol.. actually Tuniq TX3 is the still the best for load. you can get it locally. The price around RM25 above. Still cheap though.. http://www.rbmods.com/content/16597/introduction.aspx A mouse bungee i'm ordering. My mouse wire has been annoying the hell out of me forever x_x; http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/890757 anyway, in case you want to get a GFX WB locally you can always find Clawhammer and ask/reconfirm your GC spec. He's the best on providing advice for new comers of WC. Anyway it's still easy to flush the water without using your mentioned item, only open up the reservoir top (EK multioption) and then just spill it out to other bekas.... |
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lol dont worry about micro organism xD.. chances u get one inside ur rig is small.. i use plain distilled water w/o anything else inside.. and it has been fine for weeks..
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 4 2009, 05:21 PM) Tuniq it is then, thx. that's a nice thing.. if its already stated that the tubing contains antimicrobial thing for what we need the biocide bro? maybe u should install it first then, let see how goes inside the tube. either its perfect runs or will have another problem like algae even with antimicrobial tubing. So, this will be a good source for the new comer later.... Kino i think i will change the tubing to Tygon® Silver Antimicrobial Tubing 1/2in. ID 3/4in. OD # AS600038 http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/tysiantu1id3.html Someone posted the difference between Tygon R3603 and Tygon Silver Antimicrobial http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/434...r-vs-tygon.html Cause apparently this is better if opting to use distilled water (which is also non conductive by the way). Do i still need to use bio cide and a silver kill coil with that tubing? |
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or just buy feser UV fluid with transparent tubings
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ahahahaha...if u think got algae just wash the tubings bro...hot water can...some ppl say use vinegar...i dunno lol...mayb the experts here can help...
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Dec 5 2009, 03:48 PM
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coke also can... lol
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Heya,
though I'd drop by here and post . Happened to found this project thanks to the all mighty google and I've had it bookmarked for a couple of days. Main reason being that I am also building an system in this same case and havent too many build with it yet... Just ordered rest of my stuff today but I dont think I'll get to build it yet for a while since radeon HD5870's are so hard to get. Though I'm interested to see how your project will end up |
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for the wheel part... stacker come with predrilled wheel holes and wheel... tht's y they can install it without any modding...
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 11 2009, 03:32 PM) Elpy, for your information someone is selling a modded PC-A71F case. http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ind...oducts_id=26504 You might get some good ideas looking at that as well :} Lichyetan: Oh i didn't know this :{ anyway thx for sharing. Elphy by the way this is a great case, but the only bad things about it is, compared to the previous PC-A71 models, this one does not have a removable motherboard tray.... also the front panel is more steps to remove in order to access the fan filters. The later isn't too bad, but the motherboard tray was a let down >-<; other than that, i really like this case   Source: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...t=238351&page=4 Anyway i want to make the reservoir and pump sorta like this generally. And also like the prior screenshot which the pump had a drain port  what a clean build |
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nice looking wc rig. anyway only i dislike its compression fittings design.. the koolance looks one.
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 13 2009, 06:08 PM) Ok i just checked my DHL shipping tracker. Seems my package has arrived at Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport, Lapangan Terbang Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah, 40150 Subang, Selangor, Malaysia. your item should be arrive by tomorrow. there's no delivery on sunday if i'm not mistaken. And now it says 1 hour later that it was successfully arrived at a DHL facility in Kuala Lumpur. Anybody know where this is and whether this means i managed to get past customs unscathed ??? Does DHL deliver on Sundays by any chance ???  check the place via google maps. i think should find the place... This post has been edited by kInOzAwA: Dec 13 2009, 06:55 PM |
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they dont deliver on sundays. they should call u if they happens to decide to charge u tax.
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mild overclock should be fine but i dont think modernopc will take any responsibility if ur hardware fail though. should give them a call and ask first.
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woah...oc also pay ppl to do..u must be a rich guy...
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 13 2009, 08:53 PM) Susai: No i'm not rich. I just don't spend my money on outings, beer or any of those stuff. I use that money instead on my gaming rig :/ |
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ahahahaha...dunno can always learn rite...if u dun learn how then what if ur faced with a prob later on?it would be a hassle to bring ur pc all the way to the shop...n back again wouldnt it?
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 13 2009, 08:53 PM) If thats the case better not then hahahha it depends on how you handle the computer... if it's on load 100% 24hrs soon what you said is true.. it's because when u oc the temp is not normal, that's why WC is a good solution for that... From what i've been reading online, they say hardcore overclock only can use the pc for 8 hours a day max or risk spoiling pc. Mild overclock can use 24/7  Susai: No i'm not rich. I just don't spend my money on outings, beer or any of those stuff. I use that money instead on my gaming rig :/ let's go extreme ocers......................  |
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but if u seldom use ur pc at 100% load i think it will be alright...correct me if im wrong but most of the hardware have idling speed i think...
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what's the point if u dont OC at all and ending up with those high end wc gears... juz donate to me
the statement u mentioned are true if u are fully on stock heatsinks... and also do note that no matter how good ur cooling are, there are always risk to reduce lifespan of the cpu. Over voltage etc, internal wire degration etc... even u didnt OC, internal wire degration also happens, just at slower pace. Same as heat, the more cooler the proc. the longer the lifespan. Its not we cant OC, juz that to make sure our OC didnt reduce too much of the lifespan of components, we OC accordingly with safe voltage limits and temperatures. Intel Spec Sheet max safe vcore is 1.55v if i not remember wrongly, its juz the matter of whether ur cooling gear can handle the heat generated... let's say if u can do 4.0ghz with nice temp @ stock vcore, y dun wan OC instead of running 2.66ghz with stock vcore.r What usage u on for 24/7 ? In my opinion, juz make surer the OC is stable enough not to crash ur job, else its safe to go... This post has been edited by lichyetan: Dec 14 2009, 08:53 AM |
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so this is a worklog...
so when is the actual WORK gonna be posted up? all ive read so far are only cooling Q&A... might as well put this thread in THIS section.... at least post some pix of the case or something... like the completed side panel and hardwares going into the case, etc etc. This post has been edited by mADmAN: Dec 14 2009, 09:40 AM |
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keke well thread starter says his stuff comin today, though no idea wut is ordered?
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depends on ur setup for overclocking and wut programs u run, ur worklog stats 1x triple radiator.
usually ppl running i7 with overclock use dual or triple rad on their own since it runs hot, if u add ur gpu into it then ill say the temp wont be that good if any different to ur air setup? u need to calculate how much heat it will put out and how fast ur radiator can remove those heat. |
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 14 2009, 01:32 PM) Don't worry, i will disclose everything (pictures included) once i have it all setup :} anyway bro, there's tons information over the internet.. you need to understand the oc fundamental and it's best to know the bios function, the max oc you can go and the max voltage you can go, apart from a good chipset selection for the rams, so you're freely to go OC anytime... in DDR2 most people's RAM selection is always a micron D9 chipset and they're OC while keep the latency of the ram as tight as possible... In normal Intel processor environment, the multiplier was locked in the bios, so the Front side bus (FSB) has been used for oc, if the PC cannot boot or crash that shows the voltage is not enough to supply the power to the proc, this time we need to raise up the voltage to a suitable measurement. Monitor your temp closely too. But it's not all about the voltage, sometimes RAM is one of the other factor of why the pc cannot be booted up. This is why extreme ocers always go for the higher ram value. The possibility to overclock it is better than lower value of ram. It's not worth if you go to premium watercooling stuff but u did not oc your pc. It waste a lot of money bro. Learn your bios function, mobo to mobo got different talent and different settings for bios. And the most advance bios is called Genie bios which is a part of DFI mobo. For newbie, i recommend you to choose a user friendly bios that's found on the Asus or Msi mobo. All has been separated very well (highlighted) to let you know the function. Gigabyte need to hit 'F1' when you're inside the bios to OC. So the MIT, Mobo intelligent tweaker will appear in a screen after short while. Please refer to first post in thread for any updates. As for the many questions, is because i'm a newbie and still learning :} it helped me decide what parts i was gonna get, so it was worth asking as it was a big help for me. So if you had helped me with my questions thx. You will get to see the final progress of this project :} lichyetan: I agree it should be overclocked. Sadly i am not sure how and not willing to try myself so i don't break my pc. I will check with Modernopc first and see if they can help Or if any lowyat forumer willing to come over and help your welcome to.Ps: I'm a stability cpu kinda guy I would normally buy a better cpu to keep at stable operation for better speeds than risk overclocking cpu with higher chance of losing data. But with my new water cooling kit, i think a little ocing isn't such a bad idea... problem is who can help :{ ?Even when i don't OC, i noticed using my stock intel cooler, the heat gets up to 70c ... From what i understand, these Intel Cpus were only designed to take heat up to 80c, after that point it will start damaging the cpu. |
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 14 2009, 02:49 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ANYHOW! My package has just arrived at my door step!! I will show you guys how much the water cooling was if your interested in ordering overseas like i did :} once i get home from work. |
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picpicpicpicpicpicpicpic....cant wait....
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wowwwwwwwwwwwww very nice price there... anyway what's the reason behind for the package? is it label as gift or what?
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owh damn...if known earlier can tumpang the shipment...XD
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keke yes u can ship it by urself and save a few or buy locally of course more expensive but u have the option of testing it out c if its working, and cosmestic scratch on parts u dont want before deciding to buy it or if it ends up faulty at least u have someone to blame rather than ship it back overseas and wait for replacement.
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 15 2009, 01:28 AM) Ok pictures posted here. go to imageshack.us. you can resize it to fit most of the forum. just upload using 'em. http://mognet.dlinkddns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=148 Got more pictures, but problem is the size is big x_x; any tips? |
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 15 2009, 01:56 AM) Ok loh i try do that after i Finish downloading my Dexter when i'm using the imageshack.us it works for me to adjust the image to a suitable size for the forum. i can see on your mognet forum, btw it's too large man I've uploaded all the pictures to my Mognet forum. Does it work for you? |
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Dec 15 2009, 02:13 AM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 15 2009, 02:13 AM) You have to right click the image links and load in a new browser tab screen. i think you need to upload it via imageshack and post it here too man |
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Dec 15 2009, 02:30 AM
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nice fan controller, but plz dont stick ur pump in the fan controller simply cause it does not have enough power to drive one unless u feel like blowing somethin up.
if u read any review on fan controller no one has made one that has enough power to drive a pump no matter wut it says on the box. someone tested the lamptron with delta fans and there were some problems. ur mcp655 has flow settings on it use that instead. This post has been edited by kevink82: Dec 15 2009, 08:07 AM |
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QUOTE(kevink82 @ Dec 15 2009, 07:44 AM) nice fan controller, but plz dont stick ur pump in the fan controller simply cause it does not have enough power to drive one unless u feel like blowing somethin up. ahahhaha...i noe bout the delta test...haih...if only i can get a fan controller dat can control delta... if u read any review on fan controller no one has made one that has enough power to drive a pump no matter wut it says on the box. someone tested the lamptron with delta fans and there were some problems. ur mcp655 has flow settings on it use that instead.  |
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Dec 15 2009, 01:17 PM
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the Lamptron FC-5 looks more or less the same like Scythe Kazemaster Ace fan controller
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Dec 15 2009, 01:22 PM
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i think it looks better than the kaze master, but a claimed of 30w per channel is pretty unrealistic to me by looking at the pic.
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Dec 15 2009, 01:43 PM
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Dec 15 2009, 02:36 PM
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make a measurement to your rad width x height, put a mask tape on the top of the case while drawing the measurement there. and then cut it.
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Dec 15 2009, 03:08 PM
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take it to ur local alu workshop and ask them if u r too scare to do it urself.
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Dec 15 2009, 05:07 PM
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Dec 15 2009, 05:40 PM
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One of the 3 watercooling setups that Moderno mentioned is mine
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Dec 15 2009, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 15 2009, 07:43 AM) I wish i could make my top panel look like this. Has a custom fill port too. Hmmm that gave me some ideas with my case. Still thinking about whether to buy a grill or use mesh. Btw if you are interested, you can check my PC-A71F worklog here. I'm hoping to get started with the modding. Still waiting for parts and gotta order a bit more too. This post has been edited by Elpy: Dec 15 2009, 06:56 PM |
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Dec 15 2009, 07:39 PM
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Dec 15 2009, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 15 2009, 07:39 PM) Good idea Elphy. Maybe we can exchange notes >:D get a yate loon 140mm fan. should be good enough to be used as a intake fan. Elphy: I read your work log. If you want, you can wait a few more days. I am cutting my top panel for my radiator, once done, i will have 3 fans pushing air from below the radiator outwards. Later i will get 3 more Typhoons and install them above the radiator for pull. So it will then be push pull 3 fans bottom and above. I think the picture you posted is the better choice. I would have done the same but i don't have any modding skills. You can wait a bit and see how mine looks if you want, though it may take a week to sort out. By the way does anyone know any good 140mm fan? I want to install 2 to the front of my case. |
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Dec 15 2009, 08:48 PM
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Dec 15 2009, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 15 2009, 08:48 PM) So your saying the Lian Li stock 120mm and 140mm are worth replacing? i just give you a roughly point, either the lian li stock fan is good or not i didn't know... anyway like what i suggest you before, if you really want a silence fan go for noiseblocker fan. You can put it as an intake fan. Most corsair fan product use yate loon as their OEM maker. I haven't seen any reviews how they are :/ |
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Dec 15 2009, 08:58 PM
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i recon just stick with the lian li stock, there isnt many 140mm fans on the market and none of them stands out a lot.
u sure u need 6 fans on the rad alone? its gonna add lots of noise and push pull config isnt that great since u already have good fans on them doing push. |
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Dec 16 2009, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 16 2009, 12:57 AM) Well i wasn't really sure Kev. I guess i leave it with 3 fans in push for now and see how that goes. I'll check the temp and noise level first. maybe you can ask clawhammer since he also using the same brand but different model. Maybe he got some ideas.... kInOzAwA: who does for Lian Li any ideas? |
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Dec 16 2009, 02:07 AM
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exhaust if u got another gentle typhoon go for it ill say, i remember claw has some new 140mm fans for sale so might wanna ask him.
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Dec 16 2009, 11:19 AM
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Dec 16 2009, 07:11 PM
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RM20  ????? for the lazer cut?? laser cutting was suppose to be in the hundreds lol.. especially cutting thru metal This post has been edited by reiben05: Dec 16 2009, 07:11 PM |
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Dec 16 2009, 07:22 PM
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wowwwwwwwwwww supposed the most cheapest price can get lar if RM20 only...
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Dec 16 2009, 07:23 PM
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Dec 16 2009, 07:27 PM
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i don't see its cons yet, but you may google the result for it maybe got some hidden reveal afterwards...
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Dec 16 2009, 07:41 PM
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yate loons fans are sleeve bearing, means not as robust as ball bearing...
the reason they recommend yate loons running vertical is mayb the lifespan of the bearing, i think if hanging horizontal with bearing against gravity, eg.. top as exhaust, might reduce the fans lifespan... actually yate loons are not superb performance fans, its just best performance/price ratio at overseas... but when it came to malaysia, it become expensive... but the quality are good compare to CM etc, still 1 of the best fan to get... |
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Dec 16 2009, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Dec 16 2009, 07:41 PM) yate loons fans are sleeve bearing, means not as robust as ball bearing... yeah, i agree with what lichyetan said about yate loon. There are more fans which is expensive than a yate loon in overseas but didn't reach here in malaysia.. take example like Nexus fan. Some reviews site also said that Yate loon is overrated, but it's still a great performer around if compared with another fans like CM, Thermaltake etc... the reason they recommend yate loons running vertical is mayb the lifespan of the bearing, i think if hanging horizontal with bearing against gravity, eg.. top as exhaust, might reduce the fans lifespan... actually yate loons are not superb performance fans, its just best performance/price ratio at overseas... but when it came to malaysia, it become expensive... but the quality are good compare to CM etc, still 1 of the best fan to get... |
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Dec 16 2009, 07:48 PM
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Dec 16 2009, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 16 2009, 07:48 PM) Just found a guide explaining about pc fans so, you're gonna order another typoon fan uh??? i might join u for ordering can? http://www.brighthub.com/computing/hardwar...cles/25393.aspx So basically the Lian Li 140mm are good cause apparently their dual ball bearing. I guess i won't change the stock 140mm, but i want to try the Gentle Typhoon for the exhaust because i know it's a good fan :] Not to say the Lian Li is shitty, just that i like how the Gentle Typhoon looks and the CFM for the noise level |
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yes ill say gentle typhoon has been recommended by many as the ultimate radiator fan.
its not so much it has wonderful performance but rather its more balance. wut u want is low pressure drop when the air goes through the radiator fins. u wont notice much difference in temp so much maybe a 2-3c so i wont worry bout spending too much there. if u want ultimate cooling buy a marine aquarium chiller its like 1-2k ringgit and will chill water to 16c, i got one for my fish tank... if u dont mind the power bill its basically a aircon..... |
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Dec 16 2009, 08:01 PM
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lol yea no one is that crazy i dont think just a suggestion.
should read some reviews on xtremesystem forum rad performance http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4101259 fan performance http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=223391 |
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it will turn out great man dont worry lol.
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QUOTE(kevink82 @ Dec 16 2009, 07:59 PM) yes ill say gentle typhoon has been recommended by many as the ultimate radiator fan. just buy the 2nd hand aquarium water chiller.. i saw someone selling in malaysian fish forum, but long time ago around RM400... we share the same aqua hobby man... hahahahhaa.. so guess to assemble all the wc for pc is quite easy too.. its not so much it has wonderful performance but rather its more balance. wut u want is low pressure drop when the air goes through the radiator fins. u wont notice much difference in temp so much maybe a 2-3c so i wont worry bout spending too much there. if u want ultimate cooling buy a marine aquarium chiller its like 1-2k ringgit and will chill water to 16c, i got one for my fish tank... if u dont mind the power bill its basically a aircon..... QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 16 2009, 08:01 PM) Hm... how to ship to you ?? Then my shipping cost become heavier, have to take this into account x_x; Can you COD at the Curve in PJ ???? I may consider if you wanna help me overclock use your own address... then after it reach PM me... can use our malaysian postage service instead or going COD later Oh this is the review Gentle Typhoon 1850 RPM D1225C12B5AP-15 http://www.overclock.net/5895163-post41.html @Kevin: i'm not that leet I'm pretty satisfied with Gentle Typhoon AP-15 + my Lamptron FC-5.... i can't wait to see it in action and if i don't like the noise, i can dial it down... |
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 15 2009, 05:41 PM) really !! Naice >:D I didn't cut it. TJ-07 already has mounting for fans at the top panel. Mounting dual rad is also possible with some modification (no cutting needed) Just curious, if Modernopc didn't cut your top panel who did ? |
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Dec 17 2009, 12:06 AM
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what are you gonna order in the meantime?
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Dec 17 2009, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 17 2009, 12:21 AM) It was a bit expensive so i've downsized. 4 fans, 1 wheel carriage and 2 lengths of primochill anti kink coils Worth around 600-700 :/ expensive. sounds like a rip off .. 600-700 , u bought it from sidewinders? |
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 17 2009, 09:14 AM) Nope. Pc perspective have the stock :/ how much for the cut bro? I would 110% buy from sidewinder again, sadly they don't have some of the stuff i need :/ Well they have the fans but it would be more expensive paying shipping from 2 different shops >-<; Added on December 17, 2009, 3:04 pmOk the panel was cut. See clean cut    |
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Dec 17 2009, 05:56 PM
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who cut for u?
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Dec 17 2009, 06:16 PM
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@moderno & susai:
Rm 20 :} http://www.lasercut.com.my/index.php Moderno i may need to send you a bit later. I've ordered 4 more fans, 2 silver kill coils and a wheel undercarriage i'ts gonna take at least a week to get here.This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Dec 17 2009, 06:19 PM |
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Dec 17 2009, 06:45 PM
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hmmm...thats quite cheap...
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Dec 17 2009, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 17 2009, 06:16 PM) @moderno & susai: That's bloody cheap wei! *having ideas for my current worklog*Rm 20 :} http://www.lasercut.com.my/index.php Moderno i may need to send you a bit later. I've ordered 4 more fans, 2 silver kill coils and a wheel undercarriage i'ts gonna take at least a week to get here.TJ-07 BTX conversion! |
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 17 2009, 06:16 PM) @moderno & susai: cheap price and i guess the cut seems good Rm 20 :} http://www.lasercut.com.my/index.php Moderno i may need to send you a bit later. I've ordered 4 more fans, 2 silver kill coils and a wheel undercarriage i'ts gonna take at least a week to get here.QUOTE(tesla_rage @ Dec 17 2009, 10:37 PM) That's bloody cheap wei! *having ideas for my current worklog* go, i want to see it.. it's like the uncle ianho did last time TJ-07 BTX conversion! |
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Dec 18 2009, 04:36 PM
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pm me when u want to upgrade the hdd...im thinking of swapping mine too...almost 'kong' already...
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Dec 18 2009, 05:24 PM
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not bad laser cutting cost only rm20..myb can build nice case there oso ah
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Dec 18 2009, 07:45 PM
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no, he mean to buy your hdd..
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Dec 18 2009, 08:44 PM
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they asked tons of question because paypal is full of ppl that chargeback.... if u r them u will too since chargeback is so easy the customer just need to say its not wut i order and 50% chance it will get chargeback. also malaysia is in top 10 country for credit card fraud.......... such nice country we live in aint it .........
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 18 2009, 08:44 PM) By the way does anyone know where i can buy the Intel Gen2 SSD 160gig for cheapest? For Intel X25-M 160GB G2, can ask hikari85 for the cheapest price in LYN.The only good thing i have to say about them is, i noticed that the kink coil listed was for 1/2 OD which was not the 3/4 OD i needed. I quickly asked them to change it which they did. So disaster was diverted luckily As for that Sidewinder, previously I got a bad experience with them during Computex fair in Taiwan. Order process delayed till almost a month, with lots of excuses until I ended up with canceling the order as my buyers couldn't wait anymore. They did sent wrong size of kink coil to me. I just keep it without replacement as shipping back is costing something. Somehow I like SW since their price is cheaper as compared to PPC & the courier fee is negotiable. |
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i think they dremel cut ur panel though laser cut r clean and even on top middle and bottom where u cut it, ur pic shows uneven spots.
http://www.pcabusers.com/reviews/crazypc/scorpion/side.jpg <---- underwater laser cut panel. |
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yea i oso wonder bout it..tot the pic quality taken bad one then shown like unsmootnh laser cut..myb this the cheapest service they provided
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alright la tuh...for 20bucks...its not that unsmooth...as ts mentioned its not as sharp as it looks...i think laser cut u would nvr get for 20 bucks...
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yea just though u should know though they might just tell u its laser cut, all laser cutting i think need water though otherwise it gets too hot.
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wut kind of lcd panel do u want? there is few types of ips panels or tn if u r on a tight budget. my bad i though u mean lcd as in screen lol
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 19 2009, 08:30 AM) ok i asked 3dfx and they said it will cost 300-500 just to laser cut a hole for my case. are you sure?? last 2 weeks i went to 3dfx ask to mod my casing, top & side panel only cost RM 120 for laser cut, you better go there to ask for detail pricing Anyone know if laser cut is cheaper? |
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hows the setup
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eh i thought u use sidewinder for it |
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Intel X-25M 160GB Gen2 Retail
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i though u also order them from overseas.. hahahaha.. how much the $$ for the 160GB ssd? |
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Dec 29 2009, 11:35 PM
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woot...finally a thread that have updates...hahahahaha...im sick of opening worklogs just to find no new updates lol...hahahahaha
woahhhhhh...thats a lot of typhoons if i didnt noe better i would assume that ur gonna sell some of them...XD...in which i might be interested....XD...hahahahahaha |
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Dec 30 2009, 02:27 AM
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i hope someone will brings gentle typhoon fans to sell it over LYN.. hahahaha.. would like to try... anyway i can order from overseas too but i don't have a patience to wait.. hahahhahaha
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Dec 30 2009, 02:54 AM
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Dec 30 2009, 04:40 AM
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so, your case will be posted by moderno on wc thread coming soon... same like mr tesla_rage
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Dec 30 2009, 09:17 AM
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Dec 30 2009, 01:40 PM
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errrr...isnt it supposed to be that way?u need to resend the received item back?which i think is a dem waste of money...ahahahaha...
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Dec 30 2009, 01:47 PM
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Dec 30 2009, 01:49 PM
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ahahahaha...dunno lol...cuz i read sumwhere...a fellow forumer of the forum ordered sumthing from some us company (i believe i read it in one of bit-tech.net worklogs) n then they (the shop) ask him (the forumer) to resend the items to them...dunno if he needs to pay for them tho...hahahahaha
owh really??nice tought there...mayb ill drop by later to take it away...XD...muahahahahaha |
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Dec 30 2009, 01:57 PM
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Dec 30 2009, 02:03 PM
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I will be at ModernoPC after work today. I will check out your stuffs!
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Dec 30 2009, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 30 2009, 01:47 PM) Why should i incur the cost of sending back the wrong part when not my fault? please don't do it.. just wait until the real item arrive soon.. just finish the deal with them, if you don't need to resend back open a thread in garage sales and put the item on sale... I'm not doing that gonna ask them how their going to resolve it since it's their mistake.Anyway my rig is at moderno if anybody wants to go there for a look or to rob it lulz....ps: since the kink coil is 1/2'' od, is it recommended to stretch it to fit 3/4'' od ??? Will that work ?? |
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Dec 30 2009, 05:38 PM
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Dec 30 2009, 06:22 PM
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just forget the anti-kink coil for a while bro still u have a good tubing right there.. later can install back after you get a right measurement coil.
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Dec 30 2009, 06:26 PM
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Dec 30 2009, 08:02 PM
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stretching a bit is okay, but don't get it over stretch
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Dec 31 2009, 12:53 AM
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Jan 2 2010, 08:28 PM
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so, what's the new update? supposed that your rig is up right now
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Jan 2 2010, 09:41 PM
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Jan 2 2010, 09:49 PM
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good luck Moogle Stiltzkin for your upcoming wc rig...
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Jan 2 2010, 10:01 PM
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woahhhh...thats a lot of to do list...huhuhuh...nyways what happen to ur gtx285?
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Jan 2 2010, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 2 2010, 09:41 PM) I went down to Modernopc this saturday to check on the progress. so many zamri's haha'' Basically everything is fitted except: 1. Floppy drive (I discussed with Zamri and we decided to not install it because the cable made the cabling look bad. Also who need floppy these days.) 2. Tubing (I think Zamri was a bit busy with the other customer pc, also he wasn't sure to install yet since the anti kink coil couldn't fit) 3. Primo Chill Anti kink coil (Couldn't fit apparently. Performance-Pcs are sending me the replacement but i asked Zamri to install the water cooling first since i'm not waiting another week just for the primochill to arrive x_x; ) 4. Silver Kill Coil (Hand delivered to Zamri to install into reservoir )5. Power supply unit (haven't put inside yet) 6. Overclocking (Not yet done) 7. stress test with Prime95 (Not yet done) 8. Check if my Nvidia Geforce 285GTX graphics card is spoilt and need to replace under warranty (Not yet done) 9. Lamptron FC-5 (It's installed but i asked Zamri to add in heatsinks to the mosfets because i worry that it will over heat since i will be using 3 fans per channel for some of the knobs.) Anyway the ETA is either Monday or Tuesday :} By the way, whos rig is at Modernopc, looks damn cun damn maybe i should go open my own store for pc modding |
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Jan 2 2010, 10:30 PM
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ahahahah...open jela...
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Jan 2 2010, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(Susaiput @ Jan 2 2010, 10:30 PM) ahahahah...open jela... how  ? |
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Jan 2 2010, 11:56 PM
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tell your dad you wanna make business.. a mod shop business... there's none in malaysia yet... tell him like that.. hohoohohoh
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Jan 3 2010, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(kInOzAwA @ Jan 2 2010, 11:56 PM) tell your dad you wanna make business.. a mod shop business... there's none in malaysia yet... tell him like that.. hohoohohoh my skills are noob.. oh and im getting a jigsaw tommorow .. mom sponsor.. .. |
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Jan 3 2010, 12:20 AM
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if you got fund anything will be possible, employ some good employee.. they can do for u...
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Jan 3 2010, 12:21 AM
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pergh...ini orang kaya nih...takyah bukak kedai pon takpe...wat bengkel belakang rumah cukup...suruh kino sponsor...die kaye...
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Jan 3 2010, 12:39 AM
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mana ada aku kaya.. aku biasa biasa je... hard earn cash tu bro... kumpul pelan pelan baru mampu beli brg... ayah reiben yg kaya...
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Jan 3 2010, 12:52 AM
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tipu la...rig tuh je dah berape thousand...blom tgk rig2 spare lg...
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Jan 3 2010, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(Susaiput @ Jan 3 2010, 12:52 AM) tipu la...rig tuh je dah berape thousand...blom tgk rig2 spare lg... erkkk i don't have any spare rig rite now. just this i7 the one and only... |
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Jan 3 2010, 01:23 AM
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damn wish i got work right now
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Jan 3 2010, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Jan 3 2010, 01:23 AM) damn wish i got work right now works as tukang sapu only... lol .. kino... what u working as?? lol |
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Jan 3 2010, 06:20 AM
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Jan 3 2010, 04:59 PM
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y dont u run a game instead? benchmark is....... well just for showin off i doubt u run it everyday keke.
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Jan 3 2010, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 3 2010, 06:20 AM) I ran benchmark Vantage but i got a very lower score try ocing ur processor.. i got low points i7 @ stock speed w/ 5870 I know is single card not as good as sli, but how can the score be so low :/ |
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Jan 3 2010, 05:23 PM
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seems like a bottleneck case this time?? or there's something missing on setting via bios? i saw in my mobo option got memory low gap settings for graphic card memory bandwidth.. maybe that's lack on the setup... it's just my 2.25 cents anyway..
just running on game, set all the things high and see what happen |
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Jan 5 2010, 12:40 PM
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Jan 5 2010, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(kInOzAwA @ Jan 3 2010, 01:24 AM) works as tukang sapu only... lol kino...can i work with u?lol...XD...tukang sapu boleh beli i7...sapu ape lol? |
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Jan 5 2010, 02:48 PM
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nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... anyway i do a lot of job ler.. one of 'em is web designer of course
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Jan 5 2010, 04:18 PM
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Jan 5 2010, 04:21 PM
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i think the sticker on the other side ruin the class of the case ; ;
btw any reason y the pump is like........ sideways? rest of it looks good . |
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Jan 5 2010, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 5 2010, 04:18 PM) Going to pick up now. Here are some pics up front as promised      I'll take some more pictures once i bring it home :} so clean.. i wish my case got better options for cable managementsetup looks too simple , could use more WC blocks and rads ^^.. just my 2 centsQUOTE(kevink82 @ Jan 5 2010, 04:21 PM) i think the sticker on the other side ruin the class of the case ; ; same question.. why is the pump side ways o.obtw any reason y the pump is like........ sideways? rest of it looks good . |
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Jan 5 2010, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(kevink82 @ Jan 5 2010, 04:21 PM) i think the sticker on the other side ruin the class of the case ; ; the pump has to be mounted that way coz of the inadequate spacing at the casing base to mount it straight..else if wanna close the sidepanel...the pump will be pushed inward and bend the inlet tube from reservoir btw any reason y the pump is like........ sideways? rest of it looks good . |
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Jan 5 2010, 04:49 PM
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Jan 5 2010, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 5 2010, 04:49 PM) I agree but please consider the following: its gonna be tough if u change ur GFX later.. most high end gfx is longer and ur res is ngam2 beside ur current gfx 1. no available water block for the Asus 285GTX. I may upgrade graphics card in either 2010 or 2011. i have to agree with u on the motherboard.. same reason why i didn't buy any EK X58 chipsets yet but i am tempted haha |
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Jan 5 2010, 05:05 PM
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Jan 5 2010, 05:39 PM
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he should be ok its pretty easy to move the res although im not sure bout water pressure drop though isnt it a bad idea to add 2 90 degree right before the pump?
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Jan 5 2010, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(kevink82 @ Jan 5 2010, 05:39 PM) he should be ok its pretty easy to move the res although im not sure bout water pressure drop though isnt it a bad idea to add 2 90 degree right before the pump? the MCP655 can push the flow easily no problemo..and furthermore the res is on top thus providing gravity flow towards the inlet of the pump...the use of 2 x 90 degree compression fittings will not decrease much of the MCP655 performance rate.... This post has been edited by moderno: Jan 5 2010, 06:17 PM |
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Jan 5 2010, 07:56 PM
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nice setup and neat cable management as always from moderno. anyway for the pump, i think there's another solution from the current setup where the pump located just below the res. it's the best setup and seems the position of the pump location is better in that way, while the 2nd 90 degree rotary for drain port of water from res can be put in a more convenient place
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Jan 5 2010, 08:19 PM
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he has a drain port at the bottom of the res if u look carefully not sure how u access it quiet tight by the looks but good craftmanship on modernopc i cant even c a scratch on the side panels
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Jan 5 2010, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(kInOzAwA @ Jan 5 2010, 07:56 PM) nice setup and neat cable management as always from moderno. anyway for the pump, i think there's another solution from the current setup where the pump located just below the res. it's the best setup and seems the position of the pump location is better in that way, while the 2nd 90 degree rotary for optional exit of water from res can be put in a more convenient place we've tried position the pump just below the res in pre-design loop...but there's a problem to route the outlet tube from the pump to CPU as it'll interfere with the res itself...QUOTE(kevink82 @ Jan 5 2010, 08:19 PM) he has a drain port at the bottom of the res if u look carefully not sure how u access it quiet tight by the looks but good craftmanship on modernopc i cant even c a scratch on the side panels got special way to drain out water from the res via that drain port.. |
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Jan 5 2010, 08:30 PM
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yes, i have seen that drain port thingy. But if he can move the pump towards better area like i supposed means the drain port can be put facing the side panel, which is more easily to drain compared to current setup
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Jan 5 2010, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 5 2010, 04:49 PM) I agree but please consider the following: Bitspower Black Freezer GTX285...this one cant fit?saw one in garage sales...1. no available water block for the Asus 285GTX. I may upgrade graphics card in either 2010 or 2011. 2. motherboard will be replaced in 2010 most likely when usb 3 and sata 6 gbs motherboards are released. No sense in buying expensive waterblocks for it with this in mind. Not sure why but doesn't seem so bad to me But from my initial look at the screenshot and in person view of it, i am pretty confident in the setup Moderno did |
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Jan 6 2010, 04:09 AM
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Jan 6 2010, 04:44 AM
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then get a Swiftech MCW60-R bro. surely can fit to your Asus ENGTX 285 gc. You can use many times to the next upgrade GPU later...
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Jan 6 2010, 05:39 AM
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Jan 6 2010, 06:10 AM
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lol.. up to you.. or you can buy optional ram/mosfet full block cover just like full waterblock for MCW60.
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Jan 6 2010, 07:38 AM
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Jan 7 2010, 04:34 AM
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pics
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Jan 7 2010, 07:12 AM
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Jan 12 2010, 03:29 AM
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heya bro, mind to post your wc rig image? i want to see more ....
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Jan 19 2010, 02:13 AM
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still no pics for so long T_T?
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Jan 21 2010, 05:01 AM
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yeahhh it's been a long time with no news and pic... where's the moogle gone?
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Jan 21 2010, 03:59 PM
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enjoying his new rig
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Jan 21 2010, 11:57 PM
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maybe he got no time to online, play play with wc everyday
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Jan 22 2010, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(kInOzAwA @ Jan 21 2010, 11:57 PM) maybe he got no time to online, play play with wc everyday o yeah kino.. jadi tak nak beli nih xD? |
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Jan 23 2010, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Jan 22 2010, 12:45 AM) o yeah kino.. jadi tak nak beli nih xD? project tgh hold for a while.. later i PM u |
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Jan 24 2010, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE(kInOzAwA @ Jan 23 2010, 03:29 PM) project tgh hold for a while.. later i PM u oh btw bro whats ur maximum temps for ur i7 during prime/linx/OCCT?? i get 68C max on prime blend .. 70+ on LinX and smallffts.. around 73 |
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Jan 24 2010, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Jan 24 2010, 01:14 AM) oh btw bro whats ur maximum temps for ur i7 during prime/linx/OCCT?? i get 68C max on prime blend .. 70+ on LinX and smallffts.. around 73 78 degrees is the maximum temp with overheated ambient temp on my room.. even at night it's so hot here... hahahahhahahaa... |
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