i paid 1.1k .
the vivid colors displayed is well-covered all across the screen, no backlight leakage, and its dead-pixels free.

frankly, it cost more then a usual lcd panels, the fact that these are selected high quality panels that HP paid for that has to be pass to the consumers who demands for it.

This post has been edited by bose00: Dec 10 2009, 04:03 PM

Bullsh1t, those panels are just TN panels, just like anything else out there which is cheap. There's only one quality panel out there, which is IPS panel. The price is expensive because it is a HP and comes with a webcam. Sorry to burst your bubble, but this ain't a high quality panel dude, you want high quality? Go for DELL IPS panel.

Haha.. dont be so mean.
BTW, even IPS is cutting back on cost with E-IPS. There is no guarantee that the IPS panel used in high end LCD monitor will be the latest one. Better off buying FHD LCD TV which cost less and sports the latest panel available.

Hye there, i bought aoc 2434w few days ago... i have totally no experience with calibrating the screen.. and it looks like if i dont get it right anytime soon, i might go blind!! lol.. actually i noticed after a few minute looking at this screen then look elsewhere, i can feel around me so dark... the white wall of my house looks brownish for a few minute... i hope someone can help me with this or possibly tell me where can i get a calibration profile for this model... i'm still young and not married lols... dont wanna go blind yet...

Better set your brightness lower if possible. If i no wrong, turn on the dynamic contrast really can make people blink. 100% brightness....

Dell ST2410 rm699 vs Dell 2209WA rm709 (after rm50 cash redemption)...this is a tough choice for me...few months have pass and i havent chosen the right LCD...btw..i'm still using 8800gt for gaming...2410 might just kill it

samsung p2350 @ p2370

the default settings for aoc angelo is too bright...
u can adjust it by selecting Luminance from the menu poop up by pressing the touch panel...
try eco mode:text,hope this helps

This post has been edited by xemse89: Dec 11 2009, 01:37 AM

No LCD TV can come close to a good quality monitor in terms of image sharpness. The reason you don't notice this s because you don't generally sit a couple of feet away from a LCD TV

Also, your argument on IPS panels is flawed slightly. The E-IPS or Enhanced-IPS is actually a better quality panel than its predecessor. So, I don't see how that can be considered as cutting cost.

Don't worry. My on board VGA port also can support the Dell ST2410 for normal use. Just go for it, which ever one you are interested to get.

hi guys

I have to agree with you on the LCD TV/Plasma. It is almost impossible to use it as a monitor, even it is a FULL HD. I try connecting my DELL Studio Hybrid to my 50" FULL HD Plasma, the font is so small and almost impossible to read from a distance. But if I sit near, my head would be turning up, down, left, right because the screen is too big. So... always stick with a PC LCD for monitor usage.

I have to correct you on the e-IPS. Actually e-IPS is at the bottom of the IPS panel chain. It is the least expensive IPS panel to produce, that is why you can see them selling at below 1k. The color reproduction and viewing angle is no where near the older siblings like the S-IPS/H-IPS - but those panel came with a hefty price. Nevertheless, e-IPS is still so much better than TNs.

Can i ask? If i connect my LCD to my GC through the HDMI port is there a big difference and also if i use those good HDMI cable such as MONSTER cable is that got big difference?

interested to noe d different to..

any 1 can share ur experience??

Waste of money to buy monster cable,.... money better spent to go for better monitor and get a 1.5 to 2m HDMI cable for RM 6 - 10. Said many times... digital is digital, 1 or 0, does not matter what u use in between to conduct the signal, be it gold/silver/graphite/carbon/copper/super-conductor

This post has been edited by BeastX: Dec 11 2009, 05:10 PM

I may be wrong, but isn't there also your good ol' IPS panel. As in IPS without any prefixes. If so, it stands to reason that an E-IPS panel would be better than the stock IPS and thus wouldn't constitute as cost cutting. Also bear in mind that monitors using the standard IPS panels are awfully cheap now compared to a couple of years ago. That is a plus in my book.

I don't think there's any just IPS without any prefix in the market now. Most probably would be old and discontinued models.

This article is a bit dated since it doesnt have the E-IPS
http://www.lcdresource.com/lcdtech/

There isn't any IPS panel without the prefixes. IPS is just a main name for many of it's model. Just like Mercedes to cars, there are E class, S class etc.

For instance, a 20" S-IPS panel costs more than 2k about 4 yrs ago. The price reduced to around 1.3k a year or two later and then got replaced by S-PVA panel. It is never cheaper than 1k. It is either discontinued or replaced by other panel. I have never seen any IPS panel cheaper than 1k until the e-IPS launch. That is good thing if you ask me because not many are willing to fork out that much on a premium panel - just like the Apple Cinema Display or a few flagship NEC models... all runs on either S-IPS or H-IPS and costs a bomb, even now.

I think we should use common sense here. Obviously no one can read at FHD from a couple feet away but that does not mean sharpness is poor. Any LCD monitor that does not run on its native resolution is bound to have less sharpness especially when it involved text. Its a give and take situation. Even when I was using Dell 2007WFP at its native resolution of 1680x1050, I already found it quite taxing on my eyes.

And as for IPS panel, I do not know why you wanna compare with the original IPS panel. You cant even find one nowadays. If you found any good deal on IPS LCD monitor, most likely it will be using S-IPS or E-IPS. I do not consider E-IPS as true IPS panel because it cut the corner of what makes IPS superior in the first place.

As for why I recommend LCD TV IPS panel, these bastards uses the very latest IPS Alpha panel which is the latest and most advance IPS tech to date. I cant even see the purple glow like I used to when I was using 2007WFP. Not to mention, the response time has gotten really low. The most important factor is the pricetag. You can get a bigger panel for less. I really cant see any use of having Dell 30" IPS panel which sport 2560x1600.

Apparently Samsung has gotten new high with their S-PVA line up. They has close up to IPS interm of viewing angles while still maintaining superior black level. It really boils down to which you like. Having used IPS panel for years, its kinda hard to accept S-PVA panel. Just not used to the color.

This post has been edited by andrekua: Dec 12 2009, 01:07 AM

Hi, got one question here.IF i left my Laptop LCD on without any screensaver for long time like 2 to 3 hours at computer idle mode, will it harm the lcd or it will cause dead pixal ?