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 HDMI Cable Quality?, Really make a diffrent?

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SUSOptiplex330
post Jan 13 2011, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(Fusion @ Jan 13 2011, 02:14 PM)
this is from my experience....an expensive HDMI does not really equal to quality product.....4 years ago when HDMI was still new....the price was insanely high ....i bought a 15m supra HDMI for RM1650 but it failed to work on my projector.....the signal lost was too great to recover but it worked on some TV.....later on i spent RM300 for an unbranded HDMI cable online and it works flawlessly till now.

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In short, you have found differences between 2 different HDMI cables. One does not even work and the other work.


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post Jan 13 2011, 02:50 PM

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definitely there are difference between 2 HDMI cable....

I did some research online and there are only 2 possibility that this would happen:

1. The voltage drop from 1 end to the other end is too great therefore is may have passed the tolerance of the projector (it may be digital but copper cable send the 0 and 1 using electrical pulse)

2. signal lost. too much missing data to the stage that the algorithm is not able to retrieve the missing 0 and 1.

well....sometimes if the algorithm replaces the missing 0 and 1 with the wrong code then there will be error in the picture like Andrewtst stated in the previous page.....

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post Jan 13 2011, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Fusion @ Jan 13 2011, 02:50 PM)
definitely there are difference between 2 HDMI cable....

I did some research online and there are only 2 possibility that this would happen:

1. The voltage drop from 1 end to the other end is too great therefore is may have passed the tolerance of the projector (it may be digital but copper cable send the 0 and 1 using electrical pulse)

2. signal lost. too much missing data to the stage that the algorithm is not able to retrieve the missing 0 and 1. 

well....sometimes if the algorithm replaces the missing 0 and 1 with the wrong code then there will be error in the picture like Andrewtst stated in the previous page.....
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no there is no error correction scheme in the video stream, you will get garbage in garbage out

cable construction is the key to preserving the ones and zeros, such as proper shielding, tighter tolerance in the cable twist...
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post Jan 13 2011, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Jan 13 2011, 03:22 PM)
no there is no error correction scheme in the video stream, you will get garbage in garbage out

cable construction is the key to preserving the ones and zeros, such as proper shielding, tighter tolerance in the cable twist...
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ohh...you are right.....found this

"Not in the way a network may ask for a 'lost' packet of data to be retransmitted - the receive end is simply decoding a live stream; lose some data on the way across the HDMI pipeline and its gone forever there is no time to resend the lost packet there is no data buffer in the Sync (Display, AV Amp etc).

Its pretty obvious when you start loosing data with signals travelling over an HDMI pipeline - you see the lost data as white or wrong coloured dots all over the video image.

There is active EQ in the Sync device to try and recover a 'bad' signal if your working with a Source and Sync that are HDMI 1.3 compliant - some 'Active' long length HDMI cables also utilising these 'recovery' options; but again there is no 'resend' option.

In the world of signals flowing over the HDMI pipeline engineers are constantly referring to the Eye Test diagram to ensure the signal is not collapsing below an allowable threshold."

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post Jan 13 2011, 03:51 PM

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Here we go again......
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post Jan 13 2011, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Jan 13 2011, 03:51 PM)
Here we go again......
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you should know better..its a never ending story.... biggrin.gif
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post Jan 13 2011, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Fusion @ Jan 13 2011, 02:14 PM)
to me i think a good hdmi cable would improve the quality of the audio but not so much on the video stream...
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You might be right on audio part.
I just wonder is that a noticeable different if there's bit error in audio? For video, most of the time we can see it.
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post Jan 13 2011, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Fusion @ Jan 13 2011, 02:14 PM)

to me i think a good hdmi cable would improve the quality of the audio but not so much on the video stream...

anyway...just my 2 cent
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It does not makes sense. If it affect audio, it will also affect video. Both or Non.

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well ...its just my 2 cent because jitter is hardly noticeable in video but jitter can be heard very evidently in a good system....all digital equipments suffer from jitter....this includes HDMI cable.....
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post Jan 13 2011, 11:06 PM

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hdmi audio has error correction icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 24 2011, 12:24 PM

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Found this brand of HDMI cables selling in Tesco.
Anyone have comment/ experience in using them?

it is selling for RM25.90 for 1.8m length..

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http://www.vcom.hk/en/product.asp

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post Mar 31 2011, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Mar 24 2011, 12:24 PM)
Found this brand of HDMI cables selling in Tesco.
Anyone have comment/ experience in using them?

it is selling for RM25.90 for 1.8m length..

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http://www.vcom.hk/en/product.asp
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A few months ago, I bought another cap ayam from tesco also around rm20, so far so good, can play up to 1080p/stereo.
I don't have surround system, so i'm not sure how well it can cope with it.
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post Aug 10 2011, 11:32 PM

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helo..
sori if i interrupt ur conversation..
i hv some problem..
i was a ps3 hdmi user..
so, the prob is, when i used my cap ayam berjalan hdmi connect to my lg monitor e2341v.

it appear a flash of green+pink (1/2 second ) when the images change color from dark to contra colour... or it opposite..

when i sent to lg s.c.. they change the panel to the new one n so on..

after i play again, it appear the same problem..
the technician told me is about the cap ayam berjalan hdmi..
(p/s : i have also cap lembu hdmi, n used it, the problm still the same)

the Q to u all otai2 here.. do u agree with the technician anwser.? n if no y.?
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post Aug 11 2011, 02:32 PM

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Use your ps3 and the hdmi to connect to another display panel. If same problem, then you know what is the problem.
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post Aug 12 2011, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 11 2011, 02:32 PM)
Use your ps3 and the hdmi to connect to another display panel. If same problem, then you know what is the problem.
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oledi try on my sony LED t.v..
don't hv any prob at all..
aiya..

the technician call me in the afternoon..
my Monitor will be hold for another 1 week. wawawaw.. cry.gif cry.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 01:23 AM

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How to determine normal HDMI cable(I mean below RM50 not 300++ 'monster' cable) or all HDMI good or bad? I am using a 'normal HDMI cable' hook between my LG mon to my GC show in my forum sign.
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post Sep 4 2011, 05:34 PM

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For 6 feets long or shorter, any cable will do, but if money is not a issue, just get a better cable. As simple as that. smile.gif
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post Sep 4 2011, 07:02 PM

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I got free 1.5m HDMI cable come with media player, max video mode is 720p

change to tesco's RM9.90 3m technika brand HDMI, 1080p no problem

I suspect the failure of the first cable to carry higher speed data is because of insufficient number of wire pair twist inside the HDMI cable

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post Sep 4 2011, 08:39 PM

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Got myself another Technika HDMI cable from Tesco.
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post Dec 18 2011, 09:22 PM

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