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 Shahz's Android guides with Ultimate package dload, Get the most out of your HTC Hero!

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danny83
post Jan 2 2010, 07:35 PM

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hi guys, juz wonder how we can confirm our hero is rooted with SU permission?

i have rooted it months back, i have android market i have SU permission icon in the app list.
but when i try to use SU manager or Root explorer, when the program initiated, it will request for SU permission, it does show a black blank page in the screen and wait for some time it says request not found.

is my phone have SU permission?
when i use Astro manager, i can't copy any file in the /system or other folder. i really have alot of ??? around my head.
hopefully u guys can enlighten me...

This post has been edited by danny83: Jan 2 2010, 07:36 PM
TSshahz
post Jan 2 2010, 08:13 PM

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First you must understand why you root your phone and what is root at the first place..This is rather a long explanation if I have to write it..I suggest you do some reading (or googling) on "why do we need to root our HTC Hero" smile.gif That will help you..

Keywords will be "super user access" smile.gif
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post Jan 2 2010, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 2 2010, 08:13 PM)
First you must understand why you root your phone and what is root at the first place..This is rather a long explanation if I have to write it..I suggest you do some reading (or googling) on "why do we need to root our HTC Hero" smile.gif That will help you..

Keywords will be "super user access" smile.gif
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i have read if not all, most of them when i got my hero in the first day. i know to root it is to get super user access.
i know what is linux ok? i have been with it ok? even im not in server field but i blif i'm in the IT field as i understand all the basic.
i can 100% assure i have root my hero follow ur steps or even those in xda.
as i said i already have su permission icon and android market in apps.
i blif these are the proof that i have rooted my phone.

but in this case, the root explore or su manager would not have problem during initiating for SU permission.
and the astro file manager should have rights to write on the /system folder instead of disallow.
i'm checking with u guys whether is the manager having problem or u guys have no problem to write any thing in the root folder or /system folder.
or is there any steps to follow before i can write in thoese folder?

maybe there is too many user here asking without searching and u think that i'm 1 of them.
maybe u can check back the previous history in this thread that i have follow and complete all urs and other steps long ago(page 4).
it's juz when im trying to use SU manager or root explorer it's not working.
that's why i post it here.

i really think ur reply is not answering but insulting.
i suggest u don give any respond rather than giving all this. thank you and i wont post anything here anymore.

This post has been edited by danny83: Jan 2 2010, 08:33 PM
TSshahz
post Jan 3 2010, 01:30 AM

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Look brother..I don't mean to offend you..And I hope you won't misunderstand my message..Trust me, I had no intentions for that..My purpose was just to ask you to understand root first before we dig into the problem..And I personally don't see it as an insult at all..If you feel so, then I'm sorry about that..

Your first question was "hi guys, juz wonder how we can confirm our hero is rooted with SU permission?". With that question, maybe I mislead myself into believing that you didn't know what is root itself. For if you did, you would've known how to figure this out. Once again, if you found it offensive, I'm sorry. Most users here just needed a "hint" of what they are doing before they started gaining their answers. That is the only way you can learn.

Look, I get heaps of queries everyday here. Questions that I have answered again and again. I know your nick and I am aware you have been a loyal follower of this thread. My purpose of being here is not to just spoon feed you guys. I want you guys to really understand the fundamentals of this whole rooting thing so you guys can also help me carry the weight of Android community in LYN.

Read my previous post again..This time, with a cool mind..You won't find it offensive anymore..Because the answer you are searching is really underlying beneath the surface of the main purpose of why are you rooting your phone at the first place..

And of course, once again, I'm sorry if my comment was offensive to you..I didn't mean it the way you took it..
danny83
post Jan 3 2010, 03:36 AM

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bro, i know what is the reason to root my phone on the first day.
please look carefully on what i'm asked previously.

i'm not asking how and why we need to root it. i know the reason, instead u ask me to search for "why do we need to root?"

i have done it but i couldn't confirmed it's working thus im asking u guys, is that after rooting the SU manager and root explorer apps muz be working straight when i initiate it.

this is not asked before and i couldn't find a way to confirm this.
if u think this is kind of question is a noob question then i'm sorry. but i think verify whether it's rooted is not a theoretical question which need a page of answer for it.

i don require spoon feed but this is not something that could answer to it directly. thus i need some user feedback.
if you are busy or tired. u really not needed to answer it becoz it's open to all at the first place. please check who i post this msg to.

i have been checking for this for weeks back but couldn't get any hints. after that i post this question here and from my own question, i said the /system folder was unable to write or create folder in it. and i suspecting the write permission is not there although i'm rooted. and i can't use the SU or root explorer.

Finally i got something when i'm searching for /system folder permission to write.
and it require adb shell


Verify is the /system folder is writable:

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# mount

rootfs / rootfs ro 0 0
tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,mode=755 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=600 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
tmpfs /sqlite_stmt_journals tmpfs rw,size=4096k 0 0
/dev/block/mtdblock3 /system yaffs2 ro 0 0
/dev/block/mtdblock5 /data yaffs2 rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0
/dev/block/mtdblock4 /cache yaffs2 rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0
/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0711,dmask=0700,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,utf8 0 0



/dev/block/mtdblock3  is the /system partition device file.
Gain root access:
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                In cmd type: adb shell

Output: #

        1. From the prompt you got (#) run the following command to mount the phone’s file system in RW mode:

mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

        2. Add su command to your Phone
        3. Run the the following commands in the shell (#) – Run each command separately (don’t just copy-paste all the lines!):

                  - cat /system/bin/sh > /system/bin/su

                  - chmod 4755 /system/bin/su

        4.  Reboot the phone by typing reboot in the shell (#).
after i did this, my root explorer is working but there is still some problem with it as after i delete some folder in the /system or other it still come back when i restart the "root explorer". i have to use CLI to continue with the file & folder editing but it's ok.


once again bro Shahz, i'm not coming here to fight with ppl and of coz not to u.
i have my utmost respect on u for bringing me to the android world. Thanks but i think this forum is to discuss something that others querying.
by asking me to search on the "Super user access" really mean nothing to me...

Peace...

TSshahz
post Jan 3 2010, 03:53 AM

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Chill bro..No hard feelings smile.gif Just some misunderstanding I believe happy.gif

Okay, from what I can see, you do have root permissions. There are two things that you can try here:

1. Try going into "Superuser Permissions" application in your application list. Do you see anything listed there with a green plus icon? If you do, tap it. Tap all in the list until you there is nothing left. Then see if the folder is now gone.

2. By right chmod 755 should be ample for the proc. Maybe you can try chmod 4777 /system/bin/su instead and see if it works?

Give it a shot smile.gif
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post Jan 3 2010, 11:46 PM

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@danny83 u are sensitive lol
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post Jan 4 2010, 12:51 AM

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sry if interrupting, we as early stage android user in this subforum did the best we could already, to guide those newbie here. Sometimes they do ask same thing all over again by posting inside existing thread and also some of them do pm us. Still sum of us did answer their question patiently . We trying our best to guide u for free, for what? just to gain our android user number here and keep they informed with credible source infos and guide. So I hope u can understand and not take it as something that offended u.
For real some of them really did pm me to ask something related... but I do enjoy answering their question becoz I do love androidOS so much and I don't want either one of them brick their phone. No offense. smile.gif
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Did any 1 noe how to setup google android contact sync? Coz I always changing rom so when I connect to internet with different rom, it automatically save and duplicate current contact list that I import from sim card. So now my contact list become shi* with 800 contact, same duplicate contact entry(i originally got around 200 contact only). So it could be a pain in as* if I have to delete it manually.
*I always import my contact list from sim card after changing rom, not connect to internet 1st so it will automatically sync my saved contact list based on my default gmail that I did in previous rom I flashed.. coz its not easy to get into wifi area in short time after I flash any rom.
TSshahz
post Jan 4 2010, 01:00 AM

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tera, don't you use HTC Sync to sync your phone? There is a feature in it which you can set as the priority (either phone or computer)..When you want to save to computer, make the phone as the priority..When you want to restore to your phone, make the computer the priority smile.gif I just use that for my contacts..Works like a charm happy.gif
That is of course just for phone contacts..For google contacts, i just sync them automatically and it does the rest..
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post Jan 5 2010, 02:37 PM

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I downloaded the archive files already. There's 4 files but file 4 seems broken or empty (12kb only) And this file seems to be missing

update-hero-radio-63.18.55.06JU_6.35.08.29-signed.zip (rename the ZIP file to "radio.zip")
TSshahz
post Jan 5 2010, 05:13 PM

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i'll reupload the archive 4..
danny83
post Jan 6 2010, 04:45 AM

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QUOTE(~tera~ @ Jan 4 2010, 12:51 AM)
sry if interrupting, we as early stage android user in this subforum did the best we could already, to guide those newbie here. Sometimes they do ask same thing all over again by posting inside existing thread and also some of them do pm us. Still sum of us did answer their question patiently . We trying our best to guide u for free, for what? just to gain our android user number  here and keep they informed with credible source infos and guide. So I hope u can understand and not take it as something that offended u.
For real some of them really did pm me to ask something related... but I do enjoy answering their question becoz I do love androidOS so much and I don't want either one of them brick their phone. No offense. smile.gif
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Did any 1 noe how to setup google android contact sync?  Coz I always changing rom so when I connect to internet with different rom, it automatically save and duplicate current contact list that I import from sim card. So now my contact list become shi*  with 800 contact, same duplicate contact entry(i originally got around 200 contact only). So it could be a pain in as* if I have to delete it manually.
*I always import my contact list from sim card after changing rom, not connect to internet 1st so it will automatically sync my saved contact list based on my default gmail that I did in previous rom I flashed.. coz its not easy to get into wifi area in short time after I flash any rom.
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Hi Tera,

Have u actually go through the thing that we are discussing between me and shahz? did i ask something ppl repeat and repeat?
i know we all come here to share, i know some may contribute more some may be less but when everyone is active in this forum it will be a benefit for all. I know some of you are having alot of query from all of the users here, but please if you are tired of it or u are not really feeling wan to reply on that you may skip it. but don give something that is not related. ppl of coz wont blame u on that but if u are answering, please at least give something that are matching the question.

i don wish to argue in shahz post here, if u have any other comment, we may take it in the pm. i don come here juz to take, i know u are not the owner or saint for the android. u have no responsibility to answer nobody question. but really don ask ppl to search for the meaning of something without looking at the question.
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post Jan 9 2010, 10:38 AM

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how does ur radio songs work? does it play the song on air itself?
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post Jan 9 2010, 05:09 PM

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Its not mine..lol..its by another LYN user..his nickname is "sicksand"..the application looks up the particulars of the song being played on air..It does not play the radio itself..
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post Jan 12 2010, 02:45 PM

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Guysss... Im a ROM changeholic now... FYI, MCR 3.1 is olredi out...
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post Jan 12 2010, 05:55 PM

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Yeah..I had 3.1 too..But its still a little buggy and personally, I didnt like 3.1 that much..I felt 3.0 much "comfortable" though..Modaco added a kitchen where a custom ROM can be compiled..Really smart!
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post Jan 12 2010, 11:59 PM

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haha... i prefer 3.1 better... wanted to test that kitchen, but.... 10 GBP is kinda like expensive... maybe in time ill join in.. but u shahz, need not to worry... u r going NeXus !! I envy you... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Jan 13 2010, 12:04 AM

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I cooked my own ROM in the kitchen actually..Im a premium member tongue.gif It is fine..but there are little bugs with some applications..

BUT....

I just realized if you wipe your phone for 3.1, then you will feel some real difference..And I have to say, its really showing some attitude already..If everything goes well, then I will surely post the generic ROM here smile.gif
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post Jan 14 2010, 12:51 PM

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Hi shahz,

Just finished rooting..

installing modaco custom rom.

Skipped your SDK suggestion, used flashrec 1.1.3

Now to optimize my SDcard..

since I need to use CMD, I have to install the SDK as per your 1st step to execute those command.

p/s: I did not do any wipe or reformat the SD at any point and it works! my SD is 8G class 4 (search at Low Yat but class 6 was not available) sad.gif

It took me approximately 45 mins. Left with 15 mins for lunch i guess.. hehehe.

Again, thanks Shahz for your compilation and also your reply through PM. Now moving on with my little project. smile.gif


In the recovery mode there is an option to partition the SD. I'm exploring it and have partitioned my SD to ext3 using it. I set my swap to 0MB. 2048MB for ext2. The next thing I've done is improve it from ext2 to ext3 and there is another option for ext3 to ext4 (I stop at ext3).

So, I hope that it is comparable with gparted; anyone else have try using the above function in recovery mode?

Many thanks and best regards.

This post has been edited by shayppp: Jan 14 2010, 02:47 PM
TSshahz
post Jan 15 2010, 01:00 AM

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it does exactly the same function actually - partition the SD card happy.gif

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