pricey.. (140-150K) old one got very good discount and I am hunting for 2.0 Auto hehe

so expensive? CBU issit? then better get the ckd last I heard 99K issit?

I think mazda really overprice their cars.. mazda6 180k not worth!

This post has been edited by Yukieliow: Nov 6 2013, 11:35 AM

lov the design n drive feel else going to chepo almera impul or nismo

you're welcomed!

i think you're right there they only updated their b-segments with VSA lately.
city facelift
jazz ckd petrol
jazz ckd hybrid

Both options have inherent risk factors.
1) Risk of buying a lemon would be a real headache as all repairs need to be born by yourself.
2) Risk of buying a lemon would be offset by warranty claims just that you need to spend time at the service center, however resale value is something we cannot control who knows the vios/city model you buy new today would not follow the footsteps of previous siblings and have really bad depreciation?

You can see and compare the current city and the previous city.
The previous one eventhough had issues of people thinking it is a bad car because of the CVT gearbox but it won people over with good power and hybrid-like fc....howver the newer one although better all round the lacking part is not enough pickup power and fuel consumption isn't as good as the previous city (though considered decent in terms of other 1500cc cars)....so you can see it depreciates abit faster.

if your objective is to buy that car to restore because it is a great car but very old.
1. performance wise it can stand with current generations of 2000cc cars.
2. safety wise it isn't great but then again at 20-25k getting something used or new won't get you a safer car with better NCAP except if you look for high depreciation conti's but some of those cars have maintenance bills which are higher than the purchase of the car itself.
3. stock and aftermarket parts are widely available, price range from cheap to exorbitant because some of the aftermarket parts will enable this car to reach track level of performance.


1996 Honda Civic EJ - this might be a good/bad deal depends on where you're coming from -- if you're handy with cars and you're going to go the performance route then this would be a good buy since it is almost the finish article, do notice the mileage is very low -- i dunno they actually blueprint the engine or consider transplant as zero mileage you've got to check this if they really blueprint it then can consider zero mileage engine if not then follow back previous mileage count.

1996 Honda Integra - no modified parts listed so considered as stock -- even in stock form the Integra Type-R is a formidable car but the good news is that it uses stock parts so maintenance is of course cheaper but it won't be as brutal as some of the modified monsters out there. If you're thinking only two doors then how about this?

1993 Honda Prelude - other than the famous B16 series the H22A is also famous, of course it is mostly overlooked over here because everyone wants a Civic with B16 engine inside for that sleeper look....but if you're into raw power this is one of their pinnacle engine's....too barbaric to the environment by today's standards but a tuned up H22A is able to play with 3000cc sedan's and some turbo machines.

1999 Honda Accord - this one comes with CF4 conversion and bodykit, of course it would be more spacious than the Civic being a D-segment.

However, whichever way you slice it getting something this old you're bound to spend some money to do some fix-ups eventhough it looks good when you buy it, coz they usually have a few hidden issues.

Here is the calculation, so you can buy a used car up to RM26.5k, lets see what you can get?

2009 Proton Persona 1.6 H-Line - with the budget you have this is going to be quite tough but let me find a few good buys for you which is decent in performance/safety/size.....i do see many Persona's on sale at this price but I think this advert is quite good as unlike most it is an automatic high line (top spec) looks like a good buy. Performance wise it has a decent 1600cc engine with a 4AT gearbox going outstation or in city driving is okay, then also of course being C-segment its size can carry 4-5 people quite comfortably and of course a Persona is going to be more safer than a Viva. Maintenance wise cheap as any other Proton.

2008 Perodua Myvi 1.3 SXi - of course many people still doubt Proton's quality nowadays so would be still okay with a smaller car as long as it is Perodua instead of Proton, then Myvi would fit the bill. Nothing special about it the 1300cc engine and 4AT gearbox is decent, though going up Genting and highway cruising would be on the higher fuel consumption side. Space wise it is a B-segment car so it is going to be smaller than the Persona. The beauty of this is the maintenance, being cheap, mostly fuel efficient and of course better perceived reliability than Proton

are local cars okay or you thinking of Japanese?
at that budget it is going to be older cannot get 2008/9 cars probably around 2005/6.

Firstly, it is a young car but the mileage is really high!
The car goes outstation alot?

Secondly, check the service record.
Are all changed parts and maintenance done at Nissan 3S or service center?

Thirdly, cash heavy investments, e.g. 2500cc engine would translate to RM880 roadtax every year, when is the road tax dying?
If the roadtax is dying soon then of course you're on the loosing end after buying the car with loan you still need to fork out RM880 cash to do the roadtax, don't forget the insurance would be a bomb as well for 2500cc car with market price of about RM100k the insurance would be about RM2900 cash, so that's RM3780 cash. I don't know if you have that much cash on-hand or not because you need to also prepare 10% as downpayment for RM100k car would be RM10k.

2013 Nissan Sylphy - I suggest you get a new Sylphy instead, you don't need to have to front up so much cash for new car, some 3S can do 100% installment with zero deposit for you, some have student loans available, or other options for loans. I've been informed that for Sylphy year end discount they having RM8000 discount for any model. So what do you think?

LOL! Don't forget mother-in-law too (MIL)
If I am not mistaken east malaysia have slightly different tax for certain cars than peninsular, i'm not too sure on the effect if you're to bring it to malaysia -- usually people just buy and sell there easier.

plate number and state actually is a mind game, if you're selling to china-pek uncle will mind this kind of thing to press down to get better price/discount.....actually no big difference and is quite subjective.

funny story.....by accident i got a pretty nice number for my car by chance when i go JPJ register....when i wanna sell the car the used car salesman and buyers all say plate number all the same no difference wan cannot get special price because of number only is see car condition.....but if i were to ask for that number on a new car they sure say "aiyo! this one expensive cannot give free at least you need to give me rm1000 to buy and i cannot give you discount if you want this number"

I'm not too sure about pickups.
I do know the latest diesel turbo technology is not common-rail is VGT (variable geometry turbo).
How much you intend to spend for this pickup?

i think i just replied someone with the same issue as you in my previous post.....probably you two need to fight out for the Myvi and Persona

The latest Proton Saga Super Value was introduced on 16th June 2013 with the manual version having a price tag of only RM33,438 on-the-road. Now let us take a deeper look for the Rm250 monthly installment offer.

roton Saga SV RM250 Monthly installment Promotion:
Down-payment: 10% = RM3,343.80
Monthly Installment:
First Year: RM250
2nd – 3rd Year: RM310
4th, 5th & 6th year: RM410
7th, 8th & 9th Year: RM500

* Based on the calculations, the annual interest will be approximately 4.5% which is not a smart move. Opt for 10% down-payment and NORMAL monthly installment (ignoring the RM250 monthly installment offer) to make the best savings for your car loan payment.

Proton Saga SV is a nice yet affordable car for youngster / first time car owner by judging the price tag alone. Visit your nearest Proton showroom today to book a test drive.

source

My suggestion is to either:
1. Wait for 3 months then do normal car installment with your 3 months payslip.
2. Get your dad/mom (working adult) to help out as guarantor for your loan, benefits of this is that the loan is in your name so next time you buy/sell car easier and also insurance in your name so your next car you buy if you never claim insurance can get NCD discount.
3. Get your dad/mom (working adult) to do the loan in their name and you pay the monthly on your own but the car and insurance is their name so abit difficult next time but loan easier to approve.

2013 Honda CRV - this one is a no brainer, its good looking, it is reliable and maintenance isn't a killer as there are many parts shared over from the previous CRV and Accord for economics of scale. Although the basic starts around RM139k with options you might bloat this until well over RM150k so becareful when ticking on the options as not everything is useful -- however with full spec and all optional accessories it will still be under RM200k and I don't think many others in RM200k range would give you all the benefits equal to the CRV, probably its biggest weakness is being to common (good for cheap part price) but not good when you want some exclusivity.

2013 Mitsubishi Pajero VGT - the CRV and Pajero are a world apart but seems the same, the Pajero is built from a pickup platform thus it doesn't have such a nice supple ride as the CRV but is more robust thus flood waters won't worry you and sometimes taking it for minor off-roading like driving on plantation roads when going back kampung, the CRV has 5 seatbelts so it only seats 5 people at a time legally but only 4 in comfort -- the Pajero has seatbelts for 7 people but usually it is more comfortable for only 6 people, although you're paying higher roadtax with the 2500cc engine but because it is a diesel while the 2000cc CRV uses petrol -- so while both petrol and diesel are same price nowadays at the petrol station you're going to get much better mileage and torque from that diesel engine than a petrol engine additionally the latest generation of VGT turbo is on the Pajero so the turbo will work across the rev range, however unfortunate truths about Mitsubishi is that 3S and service centers are limited and since it uses newer turbo technology i am not too sure if normal cherry tree shops are able to handle it -- resale and maintenance cost are decent but higher than CRV.

sorry bro can't remember (and lazy to search) can gimme the details again on your requirements.

You're thinking about the 308T or 308VTI?
In terms of power I'm very unimpressed by the 308T being a turbo (even LPT type), the VTI is worse.
Though for normal driving its usable but then feels abit wasted, the turbo one isn't powerful, and getting the lower-end VTI would make me feel like a second class citizen.

If you're ready for a conti and love Peugeot's then by all means go for the new 208, I think it is a superb car and is giving the Ford Fiesta (the current B-segment conti king) a run for its money.

If you're not too sure about what owning a cont entails then perhaps you should aim lower for Japanese cars which are much easier and cheaper to maintain new/used.

a decent car.
clear stock price?
2012 car so it has been laying around for 1 year before they sell you.
personally unless the discount is huge i won't buy.

same idea as my mind haha.... thx bro at least i know someone thinking alike lol

1. Brand : Honda City / Toyota Vios
2. Budget : 80k-90k+
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : Full Spec
5. Transmission : Anything as long it save Fuel
6. NA or FI : Na or FI doesnt matter.
7. Type : 4 seater, Big space, Cheap in service and spare parts, sporty look. Leather Seat.

I am 23 yrs old earning 4k. Look for a nice and comfortable car. I travel outstation a lot so Fuel Consumption is important.

Any Advice? Thank you.

1. Brand: Honda (1st pref), Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi
2. Budget: Down payment at max 10,000.
3. New/Used/Unreg: Any
5. Transmission: Auto
6. NA or FI: NA
7. Type: (Sedan, 2 Seater, Convertible, and etc): Sedan
8. Remarks: Need to apply for loan. Foreigner here with only 3 months stay so far. So initial down payment has to be low. Preferably a recent model (2007+).

Monthly Repayment at max RM2000.

Would appreciate any recommendation.

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You're thinking about the 308T or 308VTI?
In terms of power I'm very unimpressed by the 308T being a turbo (even LPT type), the VTI is worse.
Though for normal driving its usable but then feels abit wasted, the turbo one isn't powerful, and getting the lower-end VTI would make me feel like a second class citizen.

If you're ready for a conti and love Peugeot's then by all means go for the new 208, I think it is a superb car and is giving the Ford Fiesta (the current B-segment conti king) a run for its money.

If you're not too sure about what owning a cont entails then perhaps you should aim lower for Japanese cars which are much easier and cheaper to maintain new/used.

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many thanks for your 2cents bro.. my heart also says is the 208 so you given me a good 2nd opinion.Just that my doubt over it's small size..
Actually to me the performance are secondary matter as we usual city use wont need to sprint unless balik kampong time.So a turbo or vti is not a real concern.Im those driver who cruise slowly one so comfortness and a pretty interior is what im into.so far nothing beats the 308/208 imo.But that's everyone personal preference.
Yes im driving a Honda city 06 and wanted to give conti a chance ..

This post has been edited by Yukieliow: Nov 7 2013, 08:55 AM

I took a look at the Saga SV Auto today. Looks good and I think it's worth it for the price. Plus 3 years warranty too. I can afford this. But the front screen and big bar is the same as my parent's Mazda. It's very hard to see the road. I'm used to driving a Wira.

However I while driving back, I was thinking of just getting a used Kancil auto since they are going for 6-8k. My dad has a manual Kancil and I like the car expect it's kinda cramped since my legs are long.

What would you suggest. I'll be driving from Damansara to PJ to work and back only. Plan to use the old SS 2 way instead of Persekutuan HW. No plans to drive this on the highway. I'm a good driver, but I'm also very scared of cars art high speed.

In terms of cost, I think the Saga SV is gonna cost me 15k net since I plant to sell it after 3 years.

On the other hand second hand Kancil will cost me maybe 8-9k including all the servicing for the 3 years minus the minuscule resale value of the care later.

better get a new car then

if you ask me to suggest i'll never suggest cars like kancil, viva, kenari, etc. because such cars either lack basic safety features or don't have any at all, when new they're not cheap either, of course people praise it because it is reliable+cheap to maintain+fuel saving......



This post has been edited by zenix: Nov 11 2013, 04:55 PM

1. Brand : Any brand
2. Budget : RM150k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Any
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : Either
7. Type : Sedan or suv
8. Remarks :
Looking for a safe car that can fit 5 adult comfortably and has an
reasonable FC in city drive.

Would appreciate any advice on it.

help me plzz....

1.budget below 50k

option :-
1. new saga flx 1.6
2. 2nd hand civic 1.7 04/05
3. 2nd hand nissan latio 08..

the dilemma is new vs old and old vs older...
plz help

1. Brand : Any brand
2. Budget : + - RM60k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : Either
7. Type : Sedan or Hatchback
8. Remarks :
Im looking for used car around RM60k register 2009 onwards
Currently eyeing on Ford Fiesta S, Proton Inspira and Honda City
Any advise on those model or any suggestion on other model?
Would appreciate any advice on it

Thanks

hey tauke tauke~ wish ada promotion punya place?? i mean discount.. thx

try toyota prius C. 1.5liter. i heard got rm6k rebate for 2013 model.

this loom likes a good bargain

http://www.mudah.my/Nissan+Teana+2+0+A+Luxury-23622286.htm

less than rm96k with low mileage

any advice?

sifu,

got offer just now Peugeot 408 2.0 for 95K otr worth or not? haha

This post has been edited by Mr_47: Nov 8 2013, 03:09 PM